Graduate Opportunities at UNT

Joshua Hoe ifjxh
Tue Apr 4 13:12:08 CDT 2000


This is a letter begging people who are graduating but have not yet decided
where they want to attend graduate school to save the community from having
to have me judge every round next year and look into starting your graduate
studies at UNT.

Our current graduate assistant Tara Tate has done extremely well but sadly
is leaving for greener PHD pastures.  We place very well (Tara for instance
has been accepted at the #2 and #3 rhetoric programs in the USA).

Our squad has cleared at both the NDT and CEDA nationals for at least the
last four years (Mark would know the details for sure) and we should have a
very exciting year next year with some exciting returning debaters and some
new additions.

Anyway, the main point is that nobody wants a tired grumpy Josh Hoe on the
circuit any more than they have think of it as a public service
and write me at this address.....We want you :)


Joshua B. Hoe
University of North Texas

>From: John Fritch <jef229f at MAIL.SMSU.EDU>
>Reply-To: John Fritch <jef229f at MAIL.SMSU.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Seperation of the national tournaments
>Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:05:08 -0500
>My experience has been that the NDT and CEDA TRY to work on the scheduling
>of National Tournaments.  I know that the INITIAL concern was that the
>tournaments not be held on the same weekend.
>We do not have people beating down the door to host the NDT.  As a result,
>we are not always able to be in the same location or space the tournaments
>over a 3 or 4 week period.  They Baylor bid, as I recall, was the ONLY bid
>received for next year and there were only two weekends which were
>available.  One was the weekend after CEDA.  The other was the weekend of
>John Fritch
> >From: Michael Bear Bryant <MWBRYANT at AOL.COM>
> >Subject: Re: Seperation of the national tournaments
> >Date: Tue, Apr 4, 2000, 8:47 AM
> >
> > In a message dated 4/3/00 10:16:57 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
> > mkrueger at FRANK.MTSU.EDU writes:
> >
> >> Since there is no
> >>  great desire to host, and presidents have to con their dear friends
> >>  it, date specific choices don't really exist.  We have to have it when
> >>  do because of Spring Break.
> >>
> >>  The NDT has similar problems.  My understanding is that it is a pain
> >>  the ass to host and very expensive.
> >>
> >
> > Well, actually, Mr. Krueger, the NDT used to always be held in mid-to
> > April, before Skip Coulter decided he was working too much and started
> > drive for a shorter season in the early 80's. The harms of contracted
> > seasons, now appear obvious.
> >
> >>  Last, there would be no way to formalize the mecahnism.  The NDT is
> >>  associated with AFA; CEDA has an affiliation, but other than that the
> >>  is not sanctioned by CEDA and has no official tie.  Emory might be the
> >>  champ, but CEDA recognizes West Georgia as the National Debate
> >>  for example.
> >>
> >
> > Duh. Why can't they both establish committeees to work with each other
> > maximizing tournament dates? I've been proposing this for over five
>years on
> > this list and all I get are comments about as analytically as deep as
> > paragraph above. Could it be that some CEDA folks still don't want to
> > acknowledge NDT? Hell, we should invite NPDA to join in the quest, so
> > tournaments can attempt to not be on top of each other.
> >
> > Why doesn't that seem to happen, big guy?
> >
> > Bear

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