Georgia State is NOT...

David Mark Cheshier joudmc
Tue Aug 8 11:44:38 CDT 2000


I apologize to David Berube.  The "successor" language was only intended
to reference that this year we are filling the hole in the schedule;
the label wasn't intended to imply David's blessing.  That it was imbedded
in a compliment to the USC event will I hope minimize the slight.

Actually it was my impression that the SC cancellation was permanent.
While I understand the promotion issue is a one-time one, the tone of the
cancellation announcement gave me the impression that it was unlikely to
return under other circumstances.  I appreciate David's clarification on
the point, and apologize for the misunderstanding, as well.  He's right
that we did not talk -- I did not think it necessary since I thought he
had cancelled for good.

Undoubtedly the sharp tone of his reply will clarify any potential
misunderstanding on the issue.

My interest is in expanding competition opportunities in the southeast,
and if the USC tournament returns, whether in the fall or the spring, I
will certainly hope to attend.

In the meantime, I want to reiterate our eagerness to provide a wonderful
tournament experience for our friends and colleagues next month in
Atlanta.  I hope that may include a chance to host our friends from South
Carolina...

Again, my apologies.

David



Dr. David Cheshier
Assistant Professor & Director of Debate
Department of Communication
Georgia State University
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Atlanta, Georgia  30303

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From: Michael Bear Bryant <MWBRYANT at AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Georgia State 2000 Tournament IS NOT So. Carolina disgnated
 anything
Comments: To: lucifer41 at hotmail.com

In a message dated 8/8/00 6:57:52 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
lucifer41 at HOTMAIL.COM writes:

> This is Berube. You are not the successor to the South Carolina tournament.
>  We never spoke on the issue. Furthermore, we have every intention of coming
>  back.
>
>  How dare you designate yourself as anything. We made it clear we were off
>  the schedule for ONE year while I was busy with academic related matters.

This is bull, David. You left with disdain in your words. Do you and Tuna
think you can just keep jerking this community around as long as you want to?

I think the majority of the community might even prefer Atlanta to Columbia.

Slither back into your hole, you can't reserve a decade.

Laughing,

Bear,
great screenname, reALLY FITS...B

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From: Michael Bear Bryant <MWBRYANT at AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Should I Post This?
Comments: To: mattc at hbu.edu

I thank Pf. Caligur for his research efforts. It is clear proof that Dr.
Berube wouldn't tell anyone the truth if he was bit by Lucifer.

And, remember, he was Gina Lane's choice for head of the Professionalism
Committee. Anyone unaware of why he was fired and removed by the police from
the Seton Hall campus should backchannel me.

Leave us, Lucifer. And remember, it's his students calling for my shunning
from this list.

Bear

In a message dated 8/8/00 12:25:03 PM Mountain Daylight Time, mattc at hbu.edu
writes:

> This is an interesting little find from the archives.  Bear deserves credit
> for this one due to his vociferous challenges to people to search deeper
for
> the truth.
>
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>  Message-ID:  <s80ed856.023 at gwm.sc.edu>
>  Date:         Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:09:38 -0400
>  Reply-To:     David Berube <Berube at GWM.SC.EDU>
>  Sender:       Team Topic Debating in America <EDEBATE at LIST.UVM.EDU>
>  From:         David Berube <Berube at GWM.SC.EDU>
>  Subject:      IMPORTANT announcement about South Carolina Debate
Tournaments
>  After much soul searching, we have decided to discontinue the National
Round
> Robin after nine years.  It was designed as an opportunity for CEDA
debate's
> strongest teams to be showcased. Whether we succeeded or not, I am unsure.
> Congratulations to all past winners and participants. If anyone wished to
> take up the tournament, it's yours and we will pass on the historical
records.
>
>
>  The following is from Berube --
>  Now the other issues, we will no longer host the Earlybird. It has become
> difficult with football schedules and other tournament scheduling. I am
going
> up for Full Professor next year and I have other obligations. The early
> tournament sets our program back a few weeks and we have to play catch up.
> Finally, the post-tournament clean-up has been simply too much with which
to
> deal. I spent hours cleaning the facility this year with my students. With
a
> few notable exceptions, debaters watched us clean up after them. Finally,
> simply too many complaints about everything from I don't like the juice to
> doughnuts?  We have no regrets. It is time for someone else to offer the
> early tournaments and I think with UNI and MTSU, there will be options
> available.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  David M. Berube, Ph.DAssoc. Prof., Speech Communication &
>  Director of Carolina DebateUniversity of South Carolina 29208
>  Dept. of Speech and Theatre803-777-6663803-777-0055 (fax)
>  berube at sc.edu and dmberube at mindspring.com
>
>
>

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Does anyone have the hotel phone nunmber for ADI...I need to call and speak
with some Trojans...

Thanks in advance,

David Damus

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Subject: Re: Elections in 2000

Well doesn't intent of the legislation count as does the federalist papers
do?  Dan, go read the congressional record of VA and you will see that they
wanted a way to get around the 1st amendment but still include religion.  Lt.
Gov. Early even admitted to this telling teachers to INCLUDE prayer in their
instructions of the moment of silence in VA.

Allen Brooks

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Subject: Re: Elections in 2000

Please.....did you know that Bush dedicated a day to Jesus in Texas?  Doesn't
that disturb you?  Why not dedicate a day to Muhammed?

Intolerance is Injustice

Allen Brooks




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