The death of CEDA in Arkansas and Louisiana

Maxwell Schnurer masst188+
Sun Jan 30 23:23:56 CST 2000

        I have been considering similar (non-scientific) evidence.  I
believe that the last year or so has created a number of
"supertournaments" (named so because they are both wonderful and large).
These supertournaments (West GA, NU, Wake, KY) have over a hundred teams
entered and occasionally have to turn folks away.  I'm curious what people
think about the impact these tournaments are having on smaller local

        PRE-EMPT:  This is not in any way to attack these tourneys --
(except West GA because Hester is in it for the money. . .).  Pitt attends
these big tourneys too.  My interest is exploring the negative implication
on smaller tourneys.  i don't want to attack people for going to certain
tournaments.  I mostly want to talk about this . . .

        Potential Negatives:
1. Smaller tournaments lose entrants because folks want to travel to the
big "show".
2. Deters folks from hosting tournaments on the same dates as the big
3.  Fewer local tournament options means that schools with smaller budgets
can travel fewer teams & go to fewer tournaments.
4.  "regional tournaments" wind up getting JV & novice teams while the
Varsity teams travel to the big tourneys.   On weekends where big &
regional tourneys coincide squads will have to choose one or the other
(limited $ or coaches).  This hurts either novice/jv teams or varsity

        Potential Positives:
1.  Great competetion at these "national" tournaments.
2.  Creates a second level of competition that creates a diversity of
options for debate squads.
3. Creates a predictable "national" travel circuit for varsity debaters.

        Other issues:

1.  Is this a new phenomenon.  When I debated there was a clear "national"
circuit that included USC, UMKC, KState, Central Oklahoma, etc.  Maybe
this is just a natural outgrowth of the best competition?

2.  Are there enough regional opportunities?  Novice/JV opportunities?

        I don't know.  My initial feeling is that we are losing tourneys
that provided valuable regional debate opportunities . . . what do y'all


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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, glenn prince wrote:

> It saddens me that I even have to write this e-mail.  This year, 2 CEDA
> tournaments in Arkansas and Louisiana have been eliminated due to a lack of
> entries.  Additionally, LSU-S this weekend and our ASU tourney may face
> similar problems.  I am intrigued as to why no one in our region wants to
> support the Arkansas/Louisiana.  This is in no means an indictment of any
> region or school, but there really is no reason why CEDA in our region
> should die off due to a lack of attendance.
> I would strongly encourage Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Tennesee, Louisiana,
> and Alabama schools to at least attempt to support their surrounding
> neighbors in our endeavors to keep CEDA alive in our region.  It isn't too
> late to enter into either LSU-S or ASU.
> Friends, we are down to 3 CEDA schools in Arkansas and Louisiana combined.
> Ark Tech has 3 teams, Ark State has 2, SELA has about 5, and all of our
> budgets are slim.  Without support of regional tournaments, it is hard for
> us to keep our heads above water.
> We are at 3 and counting...I encourage everyone to at least think of
> supporting our region.
> In support of CEDA,
> Glenn Prince III
> Ark State '03
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