Still need judges-rant part Deux

[David Breshears]

all love to msu.  we at texas are MORE than appreciative of their
willingness to judge late elims (and we've ponied up the gratitude brews
when they've shown up to the bar).  i'd still like to see them on more
prelim panels, but i'm certainly not trying to diminish their contributions
to this community.

nuf sed,

dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Dean Donald <donaldst at PILOT.MSU.EDU>
To: EDEBATE at LIST.UVM.EDU <EDEBATE at LIST.UVM.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Still need judges-rant part Deux


>>         The solution is not to get rid of panels--that's what makes the
>> debates so unique and valuable at the NDT.  The answer is to judge more
>> rounds--even one or two more--if you're a coach that has been judging and
>> attending tournaments all year.  Now is the time to kick a few rounds
back.
>>
>>         Come'on MSU--disclose your judging obligations and who you're
bringing
>
>Well, now that my bastard coach William "I hate everyone else" John
Sullivan
>has failed to mask our abhorrent judging practice, I guess I'll have to
come in
>and make poor excuses myself.  John is busy planting bombs in puppy
kennels.
>
>Have you ever been to a freaking tournament in late outrounds this, or for
that
>matter, the last couple of years and not seen MSU judging in there?  And
I'm
>not saying this to toot our own horn--I've blown it in the Octo's and
quarters
>plenty this year....I mean whenever we attend whatever tournament.  At
Southen
>Cal this year Will Repko offered his services through the finals---and we
>didn't even clear at that tournament. Same at Redlands this year even
though we
>quickly got waxed in the Octos. At almost every tournament this year, Sully
>and Will were offering to judge, as are Russell and Trice, when Texas isn't
>striking them :).  Our Coaches have a tireless
>dedication to our team AND to judging people when it really is required.
Even
>though half the time we have to drive 13 hours to get to tropical Lansing,
MI.
>I've never been to a tournament, perhaps ever, where Repko wasn't given a
full
>commitment.  And if you think he'll hesitate at dropping anybody's ass in
the
>Doubles of the NDT, you don't know Will......
>Both Will and John and maybe more will volunteer to judge at the NDT Elims
this
>year, even when we are out...so cut us some slack.
>
>By the way, the subtle denigration of Roper and Bill Rand by some isn't
>appreciated
>by us or I doubt by them...so ease up, or I'll start letting MY opinions be
>known....(you hear me talking, D. Heidt?).
>
>On a final note, the only argument offered for having three judge panels at
>the NDT is "its a unique and valuable experience."  Well, so is having an A
in
>t back of the room.  I've been pretty lucky the last two NDT's for having
good
>panels, but all of us have heard a lot of people complaining.  It doesn't
make
>for safer decisions in all situations, except in blowouts, where it isn't
as
>important.  It means I might get my A and lose the B and C, which has
happened.
>
>I'm going to go do absolutely no work now, and feed on the gluttonous
bounty
>that my overinflated coaching staff provides. Ahhhh....the life of a debate
>prince........
>
>Steven "His Royal Highness" Donald
>Michigan-royale Statist Debate