CEDA Exec-Sec Rpt, 2 of 8

[Jim Apple]

On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:05:06 -0800 John Meany
<jmeany at BENSON.MCKENNA.EDU> wrote:

> I presume that the members of the topic committee are able to explain what
> happened at the topic committee meeting and offer a satisfactory and
> reasonable justification of their own decision-making regarding the excluded
> resolutions (Scott Harris has already done so).

The objections offered by numerous people are not answered.
Without some answer, the justification seems UNsatisfactory
and UNreasonable.

> Jason Stone's concern regards an exception made to a presumed rule, the
> 'rule' that papers submitted to the committee will be presented to the
> community for a vote. Although this procedure has been used in the past, it
> is more convention (or divination by the committee chair or entire
> committee) than rule. There are no standardized, officially sanctioned,
> noticed, and consistently and annually applied set of rules for topic
> selection.

The rule may be that they can reject any topic area they
like, but it seems that they would have to find a unique
reason to prevent the community from voting on it.  This
has not been provided to edebate yet.

> That is not the same thing as irresponsible
> decision-making on
> the part of the topic committee, who, after all, seem generally responsive
> to input by the community. It just appears to be unsatisfactory when one is
> on the outside, struggling to do the right thing, only to discover, after
> the fact, that the process is illusory.

See just above.

Absent a good reason to reject a topic area for the ballot,
drugs should be allowed on.  Emphasis: Even if drug law is
a bad topic area, the CEDA schools should be allowed to
vote on it.

Jim
Virginia

"Homer no function beer well without."

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From: Michael Bear Bryant <MWBRYANT at AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: "Secret Ballots" was Re: CEDA Exec-Sec Rpt, 2 of 8
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In a message dated 3/28/00 9:56:08 PM Mountain Standard Time,
ifjxh at hotmail.com writes:

> Secret Ballot???What the hell are you talking about it was as public as
>  public can be...You really need to get your facts straight before you
blast
>  people Bear.
>
>  Josh Hoe
>  Topic Committee
>  University of North Texas
>

For the third time, I did not say that anything the topic commitee did was by
secret ballot. Maybe you need to repeat Reading  Comprehension, Josh. For the
third time, I was mocking attempts by the Exec Committee to act by secret
ballot. Maybe you should get your facts right before blasting me, Josh. Talk
to Tuna.

Dammit, can't you read?

Bear

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In a message dated 3/28/00 9:54:37 PM Mountain Standard Time,
ifjxh at hotmail.com writes:

> This is totally absurd...It was a public meeting and you were invited to
>  come Bear the vote was infront of anyone who wanted to come.  Sometimes
you
>  make me so angry!
>
>  Joshua B. Hoe

And sometimes, Josh, your outright aggressive stupidity far exceeds mine. I
never claimed the topic committee acted by secret ballot. For the fourth
time, I was mocking secret ballot operations by the Exec Committee before the
tournament ever began.

Do you have any idea what's going on, Josh?

Bear,
Read my message three times, Josh, before responding. It might help.

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