Fw: Election Fraud?

Sat Nov 11 22:16:54 CST 2000


> Why do we need the Cubans?? We should ask some communist party of the
> russian federation pollsters to come and watch....
> Now THEY know how to rig an election properly---none of this really really
> close bullsh*t!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jennifer Dixon <piratepookiebear at hotmail.com>
> To: <edebate at ndtceda.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Election Fraud?
>
>
> > Hot from MSNBC this afternoon:
> >
> > Cuba has offered to send election observers to Florida to ensure
> fairness:-)
> >
> > Very appropriate!
> >
> > Jen
> > Viva La revolucion!
> >
> >
> > >From: "Jennifer Dixon" <piratepookiebear at HOTMAIL.COM>
> > >To: edebate at ndtceda.com
> > >Subject: Re: Election Fraud?
> > >Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:14:40 EST
> > >
> > >It is doubtful that the election will come down to 300 or so votes...
> The
> > >news wires have been reporting "unofficial" results, and they still
have
> > >yet
> > >to get to the absentee ballots from overseas military personnel.  Even
if
> > >you do buy the wire stories, then the few thousand more votes on the
way
> > >(they have until the 17th) are overwhelmingly projected to go to Bush.
> The
> > >Stars and Stripes reported Tuesday that 8 out of 9 military personnel
> > >polled
> > >voted for Bush.
> > >
> > >Jen
> > >Wyoming
> > >
> > >still pissed after being the only person reported who voted Mondale in
> the
> > >mock elections in '84 while living on base....
> > >
> > >>From: "Joshua Hoe" <ifjxh at HOTMAIL.COM>
> > >>To: piratepookiebear at HOTMAIL.COM, edebate at ndtceda.com
> > >>Subject: Re: Election Fraud?
> > >>Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 22:50:00 GMT
> > >>
> > >>Look I understand everyones consternation about the election but it is
> > >>hardly sour grapes.  In a community in which we gripe if a judge makes
a
> > >>tiny little error Gore is about to lose an election based on 400 or so
> > >>votes
> > >>in one state.  Give me a break, not sour grapes...Incredulity
> > >>perhaps...not
> > >>sour grapes.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Josh
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: "Jennifer Dixon" <piratepookiebear at HOTMAIL.COM>
> > >>>To: edebate at ndtceda.com
> > >>>Subject: Re: Election Fraud?
> > >>>Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 17:20:12 EST
> > >>>
> > >>>The ballots in Palm Beach were legitimate according to Florida state
> law.
> > >>>
> > >>>As reported by MSNBC today:
> > >>>
> > >>>"Clay Roberts, director of the State Division of Elections, said
> > >>>Wednesday
> > >>>the ballot complied with state statutes. Both the Republican and
> > >>>Democratic
> > >>>parties approved the ballot before the election."
> > >>>
> > >>>Some people are shouting from mountaintops that the list of
candidates
> is
> > >>>supposed to be shown in one column according to Fl. law.  I don't
know
> > >>>what
> > >>>to make of that, but nobody (reperesenting either the Democratic
party
> or
> > >>>the Republican party) registered complaints when given the
opportunity.
> > >>>
> > >>>Now, don't get me wrong--I hate Bush and Gore equally, but all of the
> > >>>fuss
> > >>>over this sounds like a good old fashioned case of sour grapes to me
if
> > >>>BOTH
> > >>>parties approved the ballot prior to the election, and especially
since
> > >>>there were CLEAR instructions written on the ballot itself to punch
the
> > >>>hole
> > >>>next to the arrow.  It is also not inconceivable that Buchanan would
> get
> > >>>a
> > >>>decent amount since there are more registered Reform party folks than
> > >>>there
> > >>>were votes for the Reform party candidate.
> > >>>
> > >>>I reiterate my previous point that if there was any confusion, they
had
> > >>>every opportunity before they punched the holes and afterward to
ensure
> > >>>that
> > >>>they voted for the correct candidate.  Their original intent is
> > >>>irrelevant.
> > >>>
> > >>>Jen
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>This is ABSOLUTELY wrong. If the ballots didn't conform to state law
> > >>>(which
> > >>>>is what will need to be determined), then they will be invalid.
> Whether
> > >>>>or
> > >>>>not people should've taken some nebulous level of responsibility is
> > >>>>irrelevant. The fact that the ballots were used in the past, or they
> > >>>>were
> > >>>>published in the newspaper (WITHOUT showing where the ballot holes
> would
> > >>>>be,
> > >>>>I might add) would be irrelevant. Whether or not we think people are
> > >>>>"whining" or being denied their rights to vote are irrelevant. If
the
> > >>>>ballots were illegal, that is the issue.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Secondly, I can't understand for the life of me why so many people
> > >>>>consider
> > >>>>this "whining". If someone is running for the presidency, and there
> was
> > >>>>the
> > >>>>possibility of bad results or some level of contested/disputed
> results,
> > >>>>then
> > >>>>I think they should do everything in their power to see to it that
> > >>>>accurate
> > >>>>results are gotten. They owe it to the people of America.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Finally, the argument that so many people could've deliberately
voted
> > >>>>for
> > >>>>Buchanan, as the Republicans are now claiming, doesn't hold water
for
> > >>>>me:
> > >>>>if
> > >>>>that's true, sending them back for a re-vote would either a.) cause
> them
> > >>>>to
> > >>>>vote for buchanan again, making the results the same or b.) cause
them
> > >>>>to
> > >>>>vote for bush, increasing his margin of victory. There's no reason
to
> > >>>>believe these people would vote for Gore if they intended to vote
for
> > >>>>Buchanan.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Look, the people who favor more scrutiny aren't "whining", they're
> > >>>>asking
> > >>>>for fairness. I'd do the same for anyone.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
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