please read--a request for support/an offer of scholarships

[Anjali Vats]

Hi again...

I dont know how many of you read my first post...I fear it was a victim to
the "select all, delete" phenomenon.  No matter.  Here it is again.  I hope
you will take time to read, respond and send me your thoughts.  Thank you to
all of you who responded the first go around.

For those of you that don't know me, I'm a junior at Michigan State and have
been involved in debate since my freshman year of high school.  But my post
has little to do with debate apart from my desire to give back to the
community that has given me so much.  Allow me to explain.

I was diagnosed with lupus erythematosus, a chronic auto-immune disease,
when I was four.  I have suffered complications, long hospitalizations and
only recently has my disease been in a remission of sorts.  I have also,
since I was quite young, looked to art as a way to express myself and to an
extent deal with my illness.  Two summers ago, I decided to combine these
two important parts of my life in an attempt to give back to the community.

The result was the Lupus Scholarship Fund, a non-profit organization that
provides scholarships to college bound and college students with chronic,
debilitating diseases.  The first fundraiser, which was held in August 1999,
was a sale of my paintings, drawings and sculptures.  The four hour event
raised awareness, support and $10,000 for the cause.  It was only through
the help of friends, family, volunteers and members of the debate community
that the event was as successful as it was.  For that reason I am reaching
out once again.

The money raised during the first fundraiser will be given to four students
that display high academic achievement, leadership and suffer from a chronic
illness.  One scholarship of $1500 will go exclusively to a member of the
debate community--either a high school senior or current college student.
For those of you that know individuals outside of the debate community that
suffer from lupus (SLE), there are two more scholarships of $1500 available.
  Scholarship recipients will be announced at the second annual fundraiser
on January 21st, 2001.

This post is a call for support and awareness about chronic illness while
the scholarship is a means for me to give back to a community that has given
me so much.  Hopefully it will serve as means of galvanizing positive energy
and bringing our community together.  I hope that you will offer your
support, apply for the scholarship and pass this on to others that may be
interested.

For more information, scholarship forms or to contact me call, write or
email:

anjali vats
461 Glenmoor, Apt 5
E. Lansing MI 48824
(517)336-0359
http://www.msu.edu~vatsanja/lsf

(website will be up soon, including scholarship forms, information and links
to lupus/chronic illness sites, artwork, and greeting cards available for
purchase)

Thank you in advance,

anjali vats
MSU Debate
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From: Dave Anthony <DaveAnt420 at AOL.COM>
Subject: Stop! I Think Scott Elliott's Already Dead!

That's not not really pollution in Texas, it's the rotting smell emanating
from Scott Elliott's brain pan.

What, law school not enough to fill your life, Scotty, the Barbarian?

There's always the family sawmill, right?

Stone told me a great story. He said your dad set you down at the age of 12
and told you that you were so lazy that you'd better find a job where you
could sit on your ass and read books all day. I see you're still searching.

Sounds like your dad was a pretty smart guy. I must be wrong about your
defects being genetic.

Bear

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In a message dated 10/24/2000 12:28:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DaveAnt420
writes:

<<
 I guess I just don't buy your rationalization for being such a dick.
  >>


There's your example.

>From  Tue Oct 24 02:23:41 2000
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From: Dave Anthony <DaveAnt420 at AOL.COM>
Subject: Playing Zen w/ Zompetti
Comments: To: Zompetti at aol.com

In a message dated 10/23/00 11:51:16 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
Zompetti at AOL.COM writes:

> In a message dated 10/24/2000 12:28:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DaveAnt420
>  writes:
>  <<
>   I guess I just don't buy your rationalization for being such a dick.
>    >>
>  There's your example.

But you admitted you were! You admitted you deliberately were an exclusionary
one to teach me a lesson. Whammo, I've just taught you a counter-lesson.
Reflect real hard.

Turnabout's fair play, isn't it, big guy?

Bear

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From: Dave Anthony <DaveAnt420 at AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Sexual Harassment
Comments: To: Zompetti at aol.com

In a message dated 10/24/00 12:03:40 AM Mountain Daylight Time, Zompetti
writes:

> And you call me a dick.  Call the kettle black?  I have honestly tried to
do
> something that was productive, but you only saw it as a personal attack...
> because your ego wouldn't let you see it any other way.
>
>  You're the one who continually mocks people.  You're the one that throws
> shit in people's faces.  You're the one who makes this activity a shit
hole.
> You're the one that drives people away.  You are actually what people
despise
> in this activity....a pompous cyber addict who preaches from on high about
> what he thinks the world should be like.
>
>  And, for once, I agree with you on an issue that affects our community in
a
> very serious way.  My only gripe with you is your tone...not toward me you
> stupid shit, but towards others.  That is why countless people have deleted
> this thread.  You reach no one...except those who are already in the
choir....
> and those are the ones who are backchanneling you.  If that makes you feel
> good, then so be it.  I was hoping that we could "join forces," if you
will,
> to try to reach those that might actually need some enlightening....you
know,
> the coaches that coach  the women that actually debate for squads like
> georgetown, george mason, michigan state, etc.  But your alienation of
those
> folks does nothing for those women.  Congratulations.  Your egotistical,
> pompous ass may have just made things worse for them.
>
>  I hope you can look yourself in the mirror.  Oh, I forgot....you've
probably
> got a ton of rationalizations to make you feel good about yourself.....
>
>  I can't believe you.  Seriously.  I used to have such high respect for
you,
> when you coached Milsap and Glen (I forget how to spell his last name).
But
> now you are a complete jerk.
>
>  Seriously, Bear.  Please re-read my posts to you.  When you do, please
keep
> in mind that I was just trying to ask you to tone it down.  Others have
asked
> you to tone it down before.  Granted, you have, but you have a long way to
go
> (noted by the number who delete your posts).   I thought that the only way
to
> get to you was to piss you off, so you'd know how it felt.
>
>  I should have known you would have taken the moral high ground like you
> always do.
>
>  I, for the life of me, have no idea how to communicate with such a bitter,
> paranoid ego-maniac.
>
>  I'm now sorry I even tried.....but I forgive you for calling me a dick.
>
>  zomp

See how angry and hate-filled you become over the same game you played on me.
Shallow, Zomp, real shallow. One little word (and you used many more on me)
sets off your inner need to be the evaluation God.

Go right ahead. Fill your heart with hate.

Why didn't I have just as much a right to go ballistic on you for your game
were you delieberately used exclusionary language "to teach me a lesson."

Isn't it nice of me not to react the way you did when I tried to return the
favor with one little word.

That hatred was pre-bottled and ready to serve.

Try to take a deep breath and relax. Maybe someday you'll let me take a
stance without having to tell me every single time what an asshole I am. Go
back and look in the archives. Every single time.

Work hard on not focusing so much of intense hate solely on me. Save some for
the sex harassers you claim to be so committed to stopping.

Adios,

Bear

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From: Dave Anthony <DaveAnt420 at AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Sexual Harassment
Comments: To: Zompetti at aol.com

In a message dated 10/24/00 12:03:40 AM Mountain Daylight Time, Zompetti
writes:

> You're the one who continually mocks people.  You're the one that throws
> shit in people's faces.  You're the one who makes this activity a shit
hole.
> You're the one that drives people away.  You are actually what people
despise
> in this activity....a pompous cyber addict who preaches from on high about
> what he thinks the world should be like.

So it's really pompous of me to take a stance against coach-student
relationships? Your hate truly truncates your reasoning. Please explain to
me, and the community, why I am uniquely pompous for taking a stance you and
many,many others claim to support? What is it specifically about me the
causes the bile to raise up in your throat?

You scare me. Your hatred makes me feel threatened.

Are you trying to teach me another lesson?

Frightened,

Bear,
does anyone think this is enough for a restraining order....

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From: Dave Anthony <DaveAnt420 at AOL.COM>
Subject: Other Must Continue the Fight!
Comments: cc: Cleverprof at aol.com

I've received plenty of support both on the list and in many more
backchannels for my recent three-day marathon stance against sex harassment
in general and coach-student relationships, in specific. Thank you for those
that extended so much encouragement. You are the people that give me hope for
this community.

But, obviously, supposedly sympathetic forces will not allow me to continue
to use my voice. Every time I take a stance, there are those that work there
hardest, as I predicted, to silence my advocacy by dragging their personal
hated of me, as a person, in as a means of removing the focus from the
specific issue. It's usually the same couple of people every time.

But this issue, sex harassment and how we deal with institutional cover-ups
is too damn important to allow personal attacks on me to de-rail the subject.
I've tried my best, but my voice seems to draw the forces of exclusion and
verbal silencing like a magnet. Please, others of you must take up the cause
of not allowing this specific atrocity to sink into the background. What both
Kreuger and Church have done is wrong and I beg with all my remaining
personal strength for other, more powerful voices to step in and assume the
lead in keeping Church and MTSU accountable for the danger they left their
female students in. I know there are many of you with powerful, related
narratives. Now, in the last four days of this dysfunctional discourse mode,
callled eDebate, I implore those stronger voices to sing out. Sing out for
the hope of gender justice and for true enforcement of the CEDA Sex
Harassment guidelines.

Please don't allow the voices that seek to exclude me from this community to
shut down this dialogue or the continuing flow of revelations about Church's
prior knowledge of Kreuger's habits.

Speak out for justice. They simply won't allow me to be the primary messenger.

Debate's biggest pile of shit (Zompetti says so),

Bear,
good-by and good luck