15 passenger van "heads up"

DARREN ELLIOTT elliottdarren
Mon Aug 27 23:29:16 CDT 2001


I dont know if the new laws going into effect soon deal with just KS high 
schools or all levels of schooling, but I know for us that in the near 
future anyone operating a vehicle with more than 9 people in it will have to 
have a CDL.  It may already be in effect for the high schools.  It doesnt 
effect us much because our district only has 9 passenger suburbans.  But I 
know many districts with larger passenger vans.  it might be tought for them 
and I assume this will filter to the college level in this state very soon 
as well.

CHIEF

>From: "Ken D" <kenedebate at HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: DaveAnt420 at aol.com
>CC: eDebate at ndtceda.com
>Subject: Re: 15 passenger van "heads up"
>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:14:25 -0500
>
>
>
>We also have a rule that states students may no longer drive 15(12)
>passenger vans.  Although our rules are nothing like Utah.  What's "adverse
>weather conditions" for Utah?  I mean having dealt with the trip up from
>ENMU quite a bit, we almost ALWAYS had adverse weather aroung GSL!
>
>We also have a 10 hour rule, and mandatory breaks, whatever that means.  We
>are not supposed to overload it either, this was specifically addressed to
>the debate team.  Hey at least they noticed we drive vans too!
>
>Interesting note, one of my students has a CDL license in Missouri, 
>required
>to drive large vehicles when he worked at a group home.  I only have a 
>Class
>C (cars/trucks) and this "VERY LAME" class that certifies me to do what 
>I've
>been doing for 7-8 years, taught by a woman who NEVER HAS DRIVEN a 15
>passenger.
>
>He cannot drive the van, I can.  I think he's MORE qualified than I am
>according to training.
>
>This liability run is fresh in the minds of alot of Universities, I think 
>it
>will get worse before it gets better.
>
>At least I know what "covering the brake" is now.. lol
>
>(By the way, I have to agree with Bear over the O Brother Where Art Thou
>Soundtrack, I even rented the movie, hmmmmm maybe I'll keep it :) )
>
>Ken
>ESU Debate
>


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