[eDebate] Re: African American's Graduation Rate

[Ivan Susak]

Have spent some time reading through the posts I'm left with some thoughts/concerns...

First, individuals have consistently said that the university has a responsibility to educate.  However, doesn't the student-athlete or student-debater or student-whatever have the EXACT same if not LARGER responsibility to learn?  At what point have the students stopped being accountable for the actions they take and the choices they make.  Maybe this is why i have more respect for current successful NBA stars such as Shane Battier (sp?) and Tim Duncan.  Those two made the choice to take advantage of the excellent universities they were at and to obtain their college education.  In fact, if I remember correctly Tim Duncan passed up the possibility to enter the draft early because he promissed his mother he would obtain the college degree.

Second, this thread seems to espouse one of the problems I see with society at large.  The problem being one's pawning off of problems, disadvantages, failures onto another person/thing/institution, whatever it may be.  Modern society and students seem to have a lack of accountability for everything they do.  Its always somebody elses fault.

Finally, I am not saying that the NCAA is not corrupt or that the university doesn't care about the money that these athletes bring in.  There definetly should be change.  However, there are definetly two sides to the coin that people are forgetting.  And equating college athletics with slavery is quite sickening.

Out of curiousity does anyone know what the graduation rate is for student-athelets playing ANY sport, particularly at division one schools?

Cheers,

Ivan
 
Ivan Susak
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