[eDebate] Towson Novice/JV Nationals Results and Feedback
Beth Skinner
beth
Tue Mar 18 22:06:29 CST 2003
Thanks to all of those who visited us over the weekend. It was our pleasure to
have you with us and we look forward to seeing you next year. Below are three
different items: my thoughts on eligibility questions, a request for feedback
on the tournament and the results. If all you want is to know who won, feel
free to skip ahead.
I?ve been reading with interest the recent thread on novice and JV eligibility
issues. I, too, have seen a good many debates this year in which the skill
level of debaters exceeded my expectations of the division in which they had
been entered. I?ve also encouraged those I thought ought to be moving up to do
so. Ultimately, though, I think that the decision to progress ought to be as
local as possible. The debater and coach should reach a decision together on
what the debater?s objectives are in terms of winning, education, skill
development, etc. The more centralized these decisions are, the less able they
are to take into account the goals, personalities and circumstances of the
people involved.
Some argue that this flexibility allows for ?abuse? of the system ? that
coaches more concerned with winning or points than with learning and
development will hold students back. I guess that might be happening now,
though I think the attribution of bad intent is probably exaggerated and is
sometimes (not always) a case of sour grapes. I guess there might be coaches
who see their teams as extensions of their own egos and are willing to
sacrifice development for points. But when I think of the people I know in the
activity, I have trouble seeing them as evil, manipulative and self-serving.
Maybe things are different where you are but I trust my colleagues?
motivations ? I think I have to in order to have faith in the community and to
remain engaged in it.
Given that, I think that a tournament that calls itself a national championship
ought to reflect the values of the wider community. So, if a consensus for
alternate eligibility regulations emerges, we plan to honor it. We welcome
your input on any or all of the following questions so if you can backchannel
me with your responses, I?d appreciate it as assistance in planning for next
year.
1. What did you think of the tournament hotel (especially versus the
Holiday Inn we?ve used in the past)?
2. Do you like mutual preference judging or would you rather have strikes
and then random judge assignment?
3. Would you rather continue to have 7 prelims or move to 6 (2 on Friday,
4 on Saturday)?
4. Did you miss the pottery awards?
5. Do you have suggestions for improving hospitality?
6. Would you rather see a restrictive (ADA), broad (CEDA) or new (please
describe) definition of novice eligibility?
Thanks again for coming and congratulations to everyone, especially those who
were competing in their first national tournament!
Beth Skinner
Towson Debate
Novice Speakers
1. Melander, Lindsey (Vermont)
2. Klein, Jeff (Binghamton)
3. O'Brien, Meghan (Catholic)
4. Pan, Allison (USMA)
5. Hoban, Lindsey (Liberty)
6. Shoupe, Carly (Catholic)
7. Hurter, Melissa (Liberty)
8. Pope, Jeff (Catholic)
9. Burns, Grace (Liberty)
10. Mates, Eric (Vermont)
11. Kern, Colin (Vermont)
12. Spaulding, Theresa (Rochester)
13. Harris, Jennifer (Louisville)
14. Wyatt, Leslie (Mary Washington)
15. Westlund, Robin (Marist)
16. Floyd, Ebony (Louisville)
17. Azevedo, Kelly (Liberty)
18. Lynn, Cara (Pepperdine)
19. Isham, Jared (Liberty)
20. Hyson, Kim (Pepperdine)
JV Speakers
1. Hill, Teresa (Vermont)
2. Press, Elliot (USMA)
3. Tiffee, Matt (Southwest Texas)
4. Langsweirdt, Lana (Vermont)
5 King, Courtney (Louisville)
6. Hoag, Andrew (Pepperdine)
7. Day, Jonathan (Liberty)
8. Williams, Lawrence (Eastern New Mexico)
9. Kraus, Alyse (Liberty)
10. Bernert, Lauren (Louisville)
11. Liu, Andy (NYU/Columbia)
12. Gaskell, Liz (Rochester)
13. Kaplan-Shain, Ilana (Rochester)
14. Nix, Elisha (Liberty)
15. Swords, John (Capital)
16. Murray, Craig (Cornell)
17. Lind, Stephen (Liberty)
18. Logan, Cedric (Rochester)
19. Nuruddin, Nafess (Rochester)
20. Granillo, Jeff (Cornell)
Rookie Champions (that's right - rookies in March and they competed in the
novice division): James Madison Kim and Gordon
Novice Elim Results
Partial Double-Octas
Chico (2-1) over Richmond HG
Mary Washington RW (3-0) over Vanderbilt RP
John Carroll AW (2-1) over Chico CP
Vermont MM (2-1) over Liberty HW
Binghamton KG (3-0) over Vermont RM
Louisville FH (2-1) over Liberty CF
Vermont VK (3-0) over Case Western FZ
Rochester MV (3-0) over Capital MT
Octas
Rochester SD (2-1) over Vermont VK
Liberty HH (2-1) over Rochester MV
Liberty AB (2-1) over Louisville FH
Catholic MP (3-0) over Binghamton KG
Catholic SO (2-1) over Vermont MM
John Carroll AW (2-1) over USMA PP
Chico GR (3-0) over Liberty IL
Pepperdine HL (2-1) Mary Washington RW
Quarters
Rochester SD (2-1) over Chico GR
Liberty HH (3-0) over Pepperdine HL
Liberty AB (3-0) over Catholic SO
Catholic MP (3-0) over John Carroll AW
Semis
Liberty AB (2-1) over Rochester SD
Catholic MP (2-1) over Liberty HH
Finals
Catholic MP (3-0) over Liberty AB
JV Elim Results
Partial Double-Octas
Vermont MO (3-0) over MTSU CL
Pepperdine HQ (2-1) over CUNY MS
John Carroll FG (3-0) over Rochester KC
Vermont CK (3-0) over John Carroll DT
West Virginia ES (3-0) over Mary Washington ES
Octas
West Virginia ES (2-1) over Cornell GM
John Carroll FG (2-1) over Vermont LH
Pepperdine HQ (3-0) over ENMU WM
Vermont MO (2-1) over USMA PS
Liberty DN (2-1) over Rochester DM
Liberty KL (2-1) over Rochester NO
NYU/Columbia ML (2-1) over Rochester LG
Southwest Texas TK (2-1) over Vermont CK
Quarters
NYU/Columbia ML (3-0) over West Virginia ES
Liberty KL (3-0) over John Carroll FG
Southwest Texas TK (3-0) over Liberty DN
Vermont MO (3-0) over Pepperdine HQ
Semis
Vermont MO (2-1) over NYU/Columbia ML
Liberty KL (3-0) over Southwest Texas TK
Finals
Vermont MO (2-1) over Liberty KL
Top Judge Award (based on debater rankings)
Reid Sawyer (USMA)
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