[eDebate] back 2 drawing board despite POSTURING

[Schizo Liberation Front]

http://www.rense.com/general36/rerum.htm

ok duane you can't just requote the public posturing of franks et al that 
the war is going to plan.  everybody knows that is part of psychological 
reassurance.  he need to deal w quotes from other military officials.  
obviously you can try to defend against these quote but what you can not 
defend against is their censorship beyond the famous wallace quote.  how 
come we don't hear the full spectrum of military opinion about whether or 
not the war is going according to plan?  it's called "hardball tactics of 
the bush admin"...

1) senior military official

quote
"One senior military official said last night: "We're not going back to the 
drawing board completely - but it's pretty close." unquote

2) brigadier general vincent brooks -- CENTCOM NEEDS TO COME BACK DOWN TO 
PLANET EARTH

quote
"Iraq has said troops will have to fight their way into Baghdad street by 
street. "The enemy must come inside Baghdad and that will be its grave," 
said Defence Minister Sultan Hashem Ahmed.

Rumsfeld was warned by the CIA in February that fedayeen fighters would pose 
the greatest threat.

And in Qatar, Brigadier General Vincent Brooks hinted that Central Command 
may be out of touch with the real situation on the ground.

He said: "There is a different view on planet Earth." unquote

3) colonel ben hodges -- EVERYBODY'S FRAME OF REFERENCE IS CHANGING except 
for the PR posturing coalition of the lying desperados...

quote
"Colonel Ben Hodges, commander of the 1st Brigade of the 101st in northern 
Iraq, said: "Everybody's frame of reference is changing. The enemy always 
gets a vote. You fight the enemy and not the plan.

"I personally underestimated the willingness of the Fedayeen to fight, or 
maybe overestimated the willingness of the Shi'ites to rise up."

A snapshot of the coalition problems is Nassiriya where intense fire-fights 
have resulted in heavy casualties on both sides.

Injured Gunnery Sergeant Tracy Hale said: "Nassiriya was supposed to be a 
six-hour battle. It's already been five days of non-stop fighting."

It was anticipated that Saddam would go for an urban defence, centred on 
Baghdad.

But what the war-planners didn't expect was house-to-house battles in every 
major town while militia fighters attacked troops from the rear and 
sabotaged supply lines." unquote

4)now famous words of lt. general wallace:

quote
"Lt General William Wallace said: "The enemy we're fighting is a bit 
different than the one we war-gamed against, because of the paramilitary 
forces.

"We knew they were here, but we did not know how they would fight."

General Wallace, head of US 5th Corps, said he was aware of pressure for a 
quick victory, but admitted it will take longer than planned.

He said: "We've got to take this pause. We're still fighting the enemy every 
night. We're doing things to keep him operating at a higher tempo than the 
one we're at."

The general confessed he was stunned by Iraqi tactics.

He said: "The attacks we're seeing are bizarre. Technical vehicles with 
.50-calibre weapons - any kind of weapon - leading the charge. They were 
even charging tanks."

Pentagon chiefs now do not expect to launch a major offensive on Baghdad for 
at least a month in an attempt to quell huge pockets of fighting raging 
across Iraq." unquote

3) colonel ben hodges

quote
"Colonel Ben Hodges, commander of the 1st Brigade of the 101st in northern 
Iraq, said: "Everybody's frame of reference is changing. The enemy always 
gets a vote. You fight the enemy and not the plan.

"I personally underestimated the willingness of the Fedayeen to fight, or 
maybe overestimated the willingness of the Shi'ites to rise up."

A snapshot of the coalition problems is Nassiriya where intense fire-fights 
have resulted in heavy casualties on both sides.

Injured Gunnery Sergeant Tracy Hale said: "Nassiriya was supposed to be a 
six-hour battle. It's already been five days of non-stop fighting."

It was anticipated that Saddam would go for an urban defence, centred on 
Baghdad.

But what the war-planners didn't expect was house-to-house battles in every 
major town while militia fighters attacked troops from the rear and 
sabotaged supply lines." unquote






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