[eDebate] nazi reemergence in US politics...
Fri Sep 12 13:58:12 CDT 2003
i would luv to see salzburg mike korcok of eagle's nest (he probably works for the simon
wiesenthal nazi apology center) defend his fellow nazi-linked republicans and their
conservative agenda of social control that they are implementing on behalf of nazi
heroes of old. you might as well rename the republican party the american nazi party
of the 21st century...not since nixon and liddy have we seen such a nazi cast of
characters at the forefront of american politics.
1) arnold scharzenegger, mr. california -- the jew gas state -- cast my vote for arnold in
memory of ronnie reagan and the nazi invasion of entertainment. long live john wayne,
the pinko killer.
"The head of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, Rabbi Marvin Hier has defend
Schwarzenegger saying that Arnold had no connection to Nazis. Of course the fact
that Arnold has tithed a percentage of every film he has starred in (reportedly over 5
million dollars) in the last eighteen years to the Simon Wiesenthal Center does a lot to
explain why the Simon Wiesenthal Center gave him their highest award
(The National Leadership Award) in 1997.
The facts speak for themselves. Arnold's father, Gustav Schwarzenegger volunteered to
join the Austrian Nazi party when it was still illegal to do so in 1938. His father went on
to be the Police Chief in the town of Thal bei Graz where Arnold grew up.
The media has skillfully focused on his father and away from all the real Nazi
connections and said "Arnold can't help what his daddy did." But what they don't tell
you about is that Arnold is a self proclaimed follower of Kurt Waldheim. Kurt Waldheim
was a favorite of the United Nations and served as Secretary General from 1972 to1982.
When Waldheim ran for the Presidency of Austria in 1986, Arnold was Waldheim's
biggest supporter and campaigned across Austria. He was even featured on campaign
During Waldheim's campaign it emerged that he had been a wanted war criminal for
atrocities he had commanded as an officer in the dreaded Nazi SS. Waldheim had
written and approved posters and leaflets that read among many things, "enough of the
Jewish war, kill the Jews, come over.?
Later the whole world learned that the United Nations had known all along that Kurt
Waldheim was a Nazi and a wanted war criminal and helped cover it up.
This makes perfect sense: anyone with a command and control background fits in well
with the UN.
The Waldheim story that broke in 1986 was a sensation and dominated news cycles for
months. In the midst of the fire storm Arnold Schwarzenegger stood up at his wedding
with Maria Shriver in front of a crowd of east coast blue bloods and said, "My friends
don't want me to mention Kurt's name because of all the recent Nazi stuff
and the UN controversy, but I love him and Marie does too, and so thank you, Kurt."
Arnold continues to be friends with Waldheim and in 1998 was photographed with him
at the Austrian Parliament. After Arnold's father died, his mother married the Head of
the Austrian Parliament, who himself was a Colonel in the SS. Arnold reportedly calls
him Uncle. While filming the documentary "Pumping Iron," Arnold told reporters he
admired Adolf Hitler and other dictators." unquote
2) karl roverer -- today's joseph goebbels -- grandaddy was mr. konstruktion
"The leaker, it turns out, was none other than the notorious Karl H. Rove, Bush's so-
called White House advisor. Ambassador Wilson identified him as Karl Roverer, with the
umlaut over the "o."
According to reliable sources, as well as our own Al Martin Raw.com investigation, Karl
Rove is, in fact, the grandson of Karl Heinz Roverer, the gauleiter of Mecklenburg, who
was also a partner and senior engineer of Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurb?ro AG.
They built Birchenau, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany."
3) worst president bush -- grandaddy was "hitler's angel" -- brick by brick, office by
office, state by state we will win the union for our spiritual father adolph -- all the way
from korcok to martino we will win!!!
"G.W.'s grandfather and great-grandfather, Prescott Bush and George Herbert
Walker, were among the chief American fundraisers for Germany's Nazi Party.
Through industrialist Fritz Thyssen, the Bush-run Union Banking Company and
W. A. Harriman & Company, the Bushes sold over $50 million in German bonds
to American investors, starting in 1924. Thyssen in turn pumped money into
the infant Nazi Party, which had proved its desire to rule and its
willingness to use brute force in 1923's Munich Beer Hall Putsch."unquotehttp://
"Railroad baron E.H. Harriman's son Averell wanted nothing to do with
railroads, so his father gave him an investment firm, W.A. Harriman &
Company in New York City. E.H. hired the most qualified person in the
country to run the operation, George Herbert Walker. Averell hired his
little brother Edward Roland "Bunny" Harriman as a vice president.
By 1920, George Herbert Walker had already built a fortune in Missouri.
Walker, a charismatic former heavyweight boxing champion, was a human pit
bull. He lived life to the fullest, owning mansions around the east coast
and one of the most extravagant apartments in Manhattan. His hobbies were
golf, hunting, drinking scotch and beating his sons to a pulp. Elsie Walker,
one of Walker's grandchildren described Walker as a "tough old bastard"
whose children had no love "for their father." He was also a religious bigot
who hated Catholics, although his parents raised him to be one. According to
other sources, he also did not like Jews.
In 1922, Averell Harriman traveled to Germany to set up a W.A. Harriman &
Co. branch in Berlin. The Berlin branch was also run by Walker. While in
Germany, he met with the Thyssen family for the first time. Harriman agreed
to help the Thyssens with their plan for an American bank.
The following year, a wounded Germany was growing sicker. The government had
no solution and froze while Germany rotted from within. With widespread
strikes and production at a near standstill, Fritz Thyssen later recalled,
"We were at the worst time of the inflation. In Berlin the government was in
distress. It was ruined financially. Authority was crumbling. In Saxony a
communist government had been formed and the Red terror, organized by Max
Hoelz, reigned through the countryside. The German Reich ... was now about
In October, 1923, an emotionally desperate Fritz Thyssen went to visit one
of his and Germany's great military heroes, General Erich Ludendorff. During
the 1918 socialist rule in Berlin, Ludendorff organized a military
resistance against the socialists and the industrialists were in great debt
to him. When Thyssen met with Ludendorff, they discussed Germany's economic
collapse. Thyssen was apocalyptic, fearing the worst was yet to come.
Ludendorff disagreed. "There is but one hope," Ludendorff said, "Adolph
Hitler and the National Socialist party." Ludendorff respected Hitler
immensely. "He is the only man who has any political sense." Ludendorff
encouraged Thyssen to join the Nazi movement. "Go listen to him one day" he
said to Thyssen.
Thyssen followed General Ludendorff's advice and went to a number of
meetings to hear Hitler speak. He became mesmerized by Hitler. "I realized
his orator gifts and his ability to lead the masses. What impressed me most
however was the order that reigned over his meetings, the almost military
discipline of his followers."
Thyssen arranged to meet privately with Hitler and Ludendorff in Munich.
Hitler told Thyssen the Nazi movement was in financial trouble, it was not
growing fast enough and was nationally irrelevant. Hitler needed as much
money as possible to fight off the Communists/Jewish conspiracy against
Europe. Hitler envisioned a fascist German monarchy with a nonunion,
antilock national work force.
Thyssen was overjoyed with the Nazi platform. He gave Hitler and Ludendorff
100,000 gold marks ($25,000) for the infant Nazi party. Others in the steel
and coal industries soon followed Thyssen's lead, although none came close
to matching him. Many business leaders in Germany supported Hitler's secret
union-hating agenda. However, some donated because they feared they would be
left out in the cold if he actually ever seized power.
Most industry leaders gave up on Hitler after his failed coup in 1923. While
Hitler spent a brief time in jail, the Thyssens, through the Bank voor
Handel en Scheepvaart, opened the Union Banking Corporation in 1924.
Union Banking Corporation
Early in 1924, Hendrick J. Kouwenhoven, the managing director of Bank voor
Handel en Scheepvaart, traveled to New York to meet with Walker and the
Harriman brothers. Together, they established The Union Banking Corporation.
The UBC's headquarters was located at the same 39 Broadway address as
Harriman & Co.
As the German economy recovered through the mid to late ?20s, Walker and
Harriman's firm sold over $50,000,000 worth of German bonds to American
investors, who profited enormously from the economic boom in Germany. In
1926, August Thyssen died at the age of 84. Fritz was now in control of one
of the largest industrial families in Europe. He quickly created the United
Steel Works (USW), the biggest industrial conglomerate in German history.
Thyssen hired Albert Volger, one of the Ruhr's most influential industrial
directors, as director General of USW.
Thyssen also brought Fredich Flick, another German family juggernaut, on
board. Flick owned coal and steel industries throughout Germany and Poland
and desperately wanted to invest into the Thyssen empire. One of the primary
motivations for the Thyssen/Flick massive steel and coal merger was
suppressing the new labor and socialist movements.
That year in New York, George Walker decided to give his new son in law,
Prescott Bush, a big break. Walker made Bush a vice president of Harriman &
Co. Prescott's new office employed many of his classmates from his Yale
class of 1917, including Roland Harriman and Knight Woolley. The three had
been close friends at Yale and were all members of Skull and Bones, the
mysterious on-campus secret society. Despite the upbeat fraternity
atmosphere at Harriman & Co., it was also a place of hard work, and no one
worked harder than Prescott Bush.
In fact, Walker hired Bush to help him supervise the new Thyssen/Flick
United Steel Works. One section of the USW empire was the Consolidated
Silesian Steel Corporation and the Upper Silesian Coal and Steel Company
located in the Silesian section of Poland. Thyssen and Flick paid Bush and
Walker generously, but it was worth every dime. Their new business
arrangement pleased them all financially, and the collective talents of all
four men and their rapid success astonished the business world.
In the meantime Hitler and the Nazi party were broke. Since the German
economic recovery, members and donations had dried up, leaving the Nazi
movement withering on the vine. In 1927, Hitler was desperate for cash; his
party was slipping into debt. Hitler told his private secretary Rudolf Hess
to shake down wealthy coal tycoon and Nazi sympathizer Emil Kirdorf. Kirdorf
paid off Hitler's debt that year but the following year, he too had no money
left to contribute.
In 1928, Hitler had his eyes on the enormous Barlow Palace located in
Briennerstrasse, the most aristocratic section of Munich. Hitler wanted to
convert the palace into the Nazi national headquarters and change its name
to the Brown House but it was out of his price range. Hitler told Hess to
contact Thyssen. After hearing the Hess appeal, Thyssen felt it was time to
give Hitler a second chance. Through the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart,
Thyssen said he "placed Hess in possession of the required funds" to
purchase and redesign the Palace. Thyssen later said the amount was about
250,000 marks but leading Nazis later claimed that just the re-molding cost
over 800,000 marks (equivalent to $2 million today).
Regardless of the cost, Hitler and Thyssen became close friends after the
purchase of the Brown House. At the time, neither knew how influential that
house was to become the following year when, in 1929, the great depression
spread around the world. With the German economic recovery up in flames,
Hitler knew there was going to be a line out the door of industrialists
waiting to give him cash." unquote
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