[eDebate] uvarov on the tunguska explosions
Sat Sep 20 20:49:09 CDT 2003
here lies an important interview w the valerie uvarov, head of the UFO department of the
russian govt. tunguska is an extremely interesting development--ain't exactly
shambhala but what the hell. we may enter contact w aliens soon at the site.
international cooperation is being saught by the "open and honest" russian govt on the
forthcuming expedition which will be the third of its kind. i encourage debaters
interested in the subject to contact the russian govt and participate in the expedition.
& Current UFO Activity
An Interview with Valery Uvarov By Graham Birdsall
? by Graham W. Birdsall ? 2003
Quest Publications International Limited
Extracted from Nexus Magazine - June-July 2003
The following extracts were transcribed from a filmed interview with Valery Uvarov, of
Russia's National Security Academy, conducted by Graham W. Birdsall, Editor of the
UK-based UFO Magazine. The interview took place at the 12th International UFO
Congress Convention and Film Festival, held February 2-8, 2003, in Laughlin, Nevada,
Graham Birdsall (GB): What is your official title?
Valery Uvarov (VU): I am head of the Department of UFO Research, Science and
Technical, National Security Academy, based in St Petersburg, Russia.
GB: This, then, is an official Russian government agency?
VU: Absolutely. I am answerable to two people above me. They are answerable to the
next person above them, who is our President [Putin].
GB: What exactly is your remit?
VU: Our research efforts are divided into two parts. Firstly, we are constantly analysing
data coming in from all over the world. We then extract what we consider to be the
most interesting information through our database-which is yellow, which is red. This,
then, is released to various departments throughout Russia. The other aspect of our
research stemmed from asking the question: do UFOs exist or not? For sure, we know
they exist, but what is behind their activity, their interest? This is the most important
issue for us, and what we mostly focus our investigations on.
GB: There is active co-operation between NASA and Russian aerospace officials at a
technical, scientific and maybe even military level. Do you liaise or have ties with
organisations similar to your own overseas?
VU: I can tell you, truthfully, that just a couple of days before I flew to the United States
I had a meeting with my ... let's say, my bosses. And they said they are very interested
in co-operating with other organisations ... let's say, our friends in the West. So, I can
tell you that this particular mission is at the starting point. I am charged with finding
the right people. When this is done, and the next stage is activated, we can make some
GB: Earlier, off camera, you alluded to some important developments concerning the
Tunguska explosion of 1908. For the record, can you tell us why you now believe you
know the cause?
VU: It is not so much a case of belief; we know what caused it. It was a meteor, but a
meteor that was destroyed by ... let's say, a missile. The missile was generated by a
material installation. We don't know who constructed it, but it was built long, long ago
and is situated in Siberia, several hundred kilometres north of Tunguska. I can tell you
that our investigation has revealed more than one explosion at Tunguska. Let me share
something with you. The last time that this installation shot down a meteor was on 24/
25 September last year. The Americans ... they have three bases ... they, too, noticed
this explosion. [Editor's Ref: See New Scientist vol 178 issue 2399 - 14 June 2003]
GB: Forgive me, but some will say this sounds like science fiction.
VU: Graham, you know that when we talk about the truths that lie behind this subject,
we only do so with those who have an understanding of the responsibility that goes
with it. And you know that we are dealing with a technology much further ahead of our
own-one capable of doing things that we cannot.
GB: Can you be more specific about the location of this installation?
VU: Look for the site of the Tunguska explosion. To the southeast is the very large and
famous Lake Baikal. Beyond that, to the north, is a huge and barren territory covering
100,000 kilometres. Hardly anyone lives there. There are no towns or cities. Here is
where we located the installation ...
GB: Are you aware of strange stories or rumours concerning the so-called "Planet X"? If
some new and heavenly body had entered our solar system, astronomers would surely
detect it and declare its presence.
VU: I cannot speak for astronomers in the West, but astronomers within our Academy
tell us we have nothing to fear. I have heard people talk about a rotation figure of
3,600 years for this planet, which is in a similar orbit to that of the Earth but behind
the Sun. We know that this planet and the installation in Siberia are closely connected.
Let me say that we believe that this installation is keeping that planet in a stable
orbit. If that planet were to move, to shift orbit, the entire solar system would become
unstable. Those of us in the Academy are sure that this planet is inhabited, and that
this installation is designed to protect them and us. We are sure that nothing
dangerous will happen. Everything is under control.
Our investigations have shown that the Earth has a pulse-a finely tuned frequency that
affects everything, every living thing. Some 12,500 years ago, this pulse corresponded
to 360 days of the year-study the old Egyptian calendar-but then an asteroid struck
the Earth. We believe the orbit of the Earth was altered, artificially, to compensate for
this. Our planet moved further away from the Sun, to a frequency pulse of 365.
This has taught us to believe that we have friends-friends who watch over us, silently.
They did not allow then, nor will they allow now, any planet, comet or asteroid to strike
and destroy the Earth. This, for us, is now absolutely clear.
Those who wish to weaponise space ... to tell you the truth, all of us involved in this
project feel a pain in our hearts. Here we all are, investigating this installation and
some other stuff, material stuff, none of which was constructed by Russians or
Americans but by someone else, someone from outer space. It saddens us when we
think what could happen if weapons are put into space.
Let me speak frankly. This installation has a power system, an energy source. We have
located this. It was during the conflict in the former Yugoslavia that we first noticed an
increase in the output of that energy. For us, it was incredible, but we now know that
this installation reacts to social upheaval and conflict. Part of our investigation involved
searching through ancient records and archives, and then we came across the Echutin
Apposs Alanhor [sic] texts. We call them the Alanhor, and they are at least 4,000 years
old. They describe the installation, in scientific terms, as to what was taking place
there. It's amazing.
I have visited the area twice. The first time our equipment detected strong levels of
radiation. I have to tell you, it was pretty dangerous; we couldn't hide from it. The few
local inhabitants of the area knew of the installation, of course, and they described it
to us. They describe metal-like structures and drew them for us. We plotted everything
on a map. But these people, their families, the animals, they were suffering from
The radiation levels have been continuously monitored for the past six years, and now
everyone-including the animals-has left the forest. Let me tell you something about
the Tunguska explosion-something that has never been spoken of before. Two months
before the explosion, every living animal fled the region. It was as if the installation
had powered up to deal with the asteroid. With that came an increase in radiation.
The same thing is happening now, today.
GB: Are there any plans to mount another expedition to the area and to visit the
VU: The radiation is a factor but, yes, another expedition is planned for later this year.
Look, we want to be open and honest about this. We welcome international
participation, but the people we invite must be responsible in the eyes of the world. We
want people who are honest, open-minded and transparent, who are eager and willing
to co-operate and exchange and then disseminate the scientific data. I invite you,
Graham, to come to Russia and visit the installation as an observer.
GB: I would be honoured. Thank you.
VU: You can tell people that we, Russia, have decided that it is time that other people
should know about this, and not just a few.
This interview first appeared in the April 2003 edition of UFO Magazine, published by
Quest Publications International Limited, Valley Farm Way, Wakefield Road, Stourton,
Leeds, LS10 1SE, England, United Kingdom, <http://www.ufomag.co.uk/
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