[eDebate] while burke speaks for us at jmu . . ;)

pete bsumek bsumekpk
Thu Apr 20 15:26:30 CDT 2006

here's an irony.  last year was the first time since i've coached at jmu
that we had paid three coaches at the ndt (we worked hard to build a
program that could support such an extravagance) and now we can't do it
again.  damn the bad luck!  shit, guess we'll have to qualify two teams
next year.

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:50:25 -0500
>From: "Burk, Christopher R" <crb012000 at utdallas.edu>  
>Subject: Re: [eDebate] Worker Rule  
>To: <edebate at ndtceda.com>
>Next time anyone outside of UTD wants to speak for our program, DON'T! 
I've been following this discussion but remained silent on eDebate until
now. But this type of 'Speaking-for-others' needs to cease:
>"My rough estimate is that the rule, based on the 2006 NDT would have
benefitted: Baylor, Binghamton, Boston College, Case Western, Catholic,
Central Oklahoma, Concordia, Cal State Fullerton, Denver, Georgia State,
Gonzaga, Idaho State, James Madison, Kentucky, Liberty,
>Macalaster, Mary Washington, Miami, Michigan, Missouri Kansas City, North
Texas, Oklahoma, Pittsburgh, Redlands, Richmond, Rochester, Samford,
Southern California, Texas-Dallas, Trinity, Vermont, West Georgia, Wichita
State and Wyoming. There may be others that should be on this list.
>I'm not saying that every person from every school on this list supports
the rule. Clearly some don't. Just as there are people, like Joel Rollins,
Dave Arnette and Scott Deatherage (more on him later) who have supported
the rule even though it presumably runs against the self-interest of their
>We at UTD will decide for ourselves what we believe about the rule. We at
UTD will decide if it might benefit our program. We will decide if and when
to offer our opinion(s) about it. We at UTD will decide if and when to
comply with the rule. 
>So, here is my early opinion: I do not believe this rule will solve. This
magical number of '2' still has not been explained. I find it offensive to
all 'third' coaches who would be cut from the legit worker staff. I also do
not believe that the rule can be enforced. And I don't believe it will made
a damn bit of difference in the NDT results. Many others noticed of these
problems immediately and mentioned all of these concerns in posts at the
beginning of the month. Many others have argued against the rule since
then. I echo their concerns. I'll always decide if and when to speak for
>Chris Burk
>Director of Debate
>University of Texas at Dallas 
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>eDebate at ndtceda.com

Pete Bsumek, Ph.D.
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