[eDebate] no one ever gets to see videos of old debaters, but...

Darren Elliott delliott
Tue Aug 15 02:28:57 CDT 2006

Well to an extent I agree with Stannard overall, debate is better now.  Better in terms of quality of evidence and arguments.  Of course there are a lot less people debating now so I guess how you define better will determine your perspective.  "In the day" there were a lot more teams and a much bigger bottom.  Now we merely have fewer teams with everyone closer to the top.  

But to say the best debaters back then were not up to snuff is totally out of touch.  And that is true of both NDT and CEDA.

certainly not mourning the death of the counter warrant.  

>>> "matt stannard" <stannardmatt at hotmail.com> 08/14/06 9:45 PM >>>
I'm a traitor to my generation, I guess.  Debate is much better now.


>From: "Darren Elliott" <delliott at kckcc.edu>
>To: <wsu.cook at gmail.com>, <edebate at ndtceda.com>
>Subject: Re: [eDebate] no one ever gets to see videos of old debaters, 
>Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:58:50 -0500
>I know Jim Haefele
>I was on the squad with Jim Haefele
>Jim Haefele was a friend of mine
>Mr. Cook you are no Jim Haefele.
>nothin but love Cookie
> >>> "Matthew Cook" <Iwsu.cook at gmail.com> 08/14/06 2:42 PM >>>
>i went to youtube and typed debate. Steve Hunt (ESU alum) posted a practice
>round with some former esu debaters from the early 90's, including CEDA
>runner-up Haefele. Here's the URL.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWbkikxmD0M .
>if anyone else wants to try to prove that debate was better 16 years ago,
>please, post some videos. My conclusion from what i saw: ya'll are hyped 
>much. granted, 15 second clips are hardly a fair judgement.
>giving due respect to the elders, even if its not much
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