From TStone94  Fri Dec  1 12:50:05 2006
From: TStone94 (Stone, Troy L)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 12:50:05 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Graduate assistant position available at Texas State
	University
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A graduate assistant position is available at Texas State University - those interested in the position should e-mail Wayne Kraemer at wk02 at txstate.edu. Texas State has an expanding policy debate program, with a nationally recognized communications masters program.
 
- Troy Stone

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Today's Topics:

   1. USC Alan Nichols Hotels (Gordon Stables)
   2. Looking for dc area volunteer possibilities (Andy Ellis)
   3. Graduate Assistant opportunity in Sacramento (Tudor, Kristen H)
   4. Re: New Debate Movie (Bob Jordan)
   5. Attending Mass v. EPA (William J Repko)
   6. Re: Attending Mass v. EPA (Kuswa, Kevin)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:46:59 -0800
From: Gordon Stables <stables at usc.edu>
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Hotels
To: edebate <edebate at ndtceda.com>, ceda-l at ndtceda.com
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To keep everyone informed, we are going to be signing the contracts for
overflow hotel space today for the Nichols. Everyone who has already
contacted me and provided a count of the number of rooms that are needed
will have space in the new block(s). These contracts will be settled
before the BCS officially announces LSU-Michigan-(or -gulp- USC if
something bad happens) this weekend, so as long as you have spoken with
me you shouldn't worry about finding space.

I will email all programs needing rooms as soon as the final details are
settled. We appreciate your patience and we are very excited about what
looks to be the largest Alan Nichols tournament in many many years.

Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any other questions.

Thanks.
Gordon

--

Gordon Stables, Ph.D.

Director of Debate

Annenberg School for Communication

University of Southern California

Office: 213 740 2759               Fax: 213 740 3913

http://usctrojandebate.com <http://usctrojandebate.com/> 
 <http://usctrojandebate.com <http://usctrojandebate.com/> >




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:46:44 -0500
From: "Andy Ellis" <andy.edebate at gmail.com>
Subject: [eDebate] Looking for dc area volunteer possibilities
To: edebate <edebate at ndtceda.com>
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Hello,

I have a friend who has recently moved to dc, she is currently in art school
and is looking for volunteer oppurtunities in the dc area if you work with
an npo or a school who needs volunteers please let me know...She is not
really a debate person so judging your college practice rounds is not really
what i am looking for, but asides from that let me know if you know of
anything
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:43:26 -0800
From: "Tudor, Kristen H" <sac36967 at saclink.csus.edu>
Subject: [eDebate] Graduate Assistant opportunity in Sacramento
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The CSU Sacramento debate program has an opening for a graduate assistant (or 2) starting fall 2007.  The Communication Studies Department at CSUS has many talented and dedicated faculty members in a diverse range of specialties.  Former students from this department have been accepted into doctoral programs at Iowa, UNC Chapel Hill, Arizona State University and the University of Utah, to name a few.  There are also many opportunities in Sacramento to do research or internships in politics & policy. 



You can contact our current graduate assistants to learn more about our program:  andreajterry at gmail.com <mailto:andreajterry at gmail.com>  and theresaperry at gmail.com <mailto:theresaperry at gmail.com> .   Check out the CSUS Communication Studies website at http://www.asn.csus.edu/coms/  for more info on our program.



Kristen Hamilton Tudor

Director of Debate

CSU Sacramento

khamilton at csus.edu <mailto:khamilton at csus.edu>



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:25:16 -0600
From: "Bob Jordan" <bobjordan at debatecoach.info>
Subject: Re: [eDebate] New Debate Movie
To: "'Duane Hyland'" <privethedge at yahoo.com>, <Edebate at ndtceda.com>
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I would be surprised if it looks like policy debate as we know it. I did a
little poking around. My write-up is online:

http://pfdebate.com/2006/11/30/debate-and-rocket-science/

Bob Jordan

  _____ 

From: edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com
[mailto:edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] On Behalf Of Duane Hyland
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:16 AM
To: Edebate at ndtceda.com
Subject: [eDebate] New Debate Movie


Hi, Was looking over the submissions list for Sundance today and saw that
this movie is going to be debuted in the Drama Section:

ROCKET SCIENCE (Director and Screenwriter: Jeffrey Blitz) -- A 15-year-old
boy from New Jersey with a stuttering problem falls in love with the star of
the debate team and finds himself suddenly immersed in the ultra-competitive
world of debating. World premiere.

Does anyone know anything about this movie? Is it policy debate?

Duane




"You may be whatever you resolve to be." Thomas J. Jackson"

"If all mankind minus one were of one opinion and only one person were of
the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that
person that he, if he had the power, would be in silencing mankind. If the
opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error
for truth; if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the
clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by  its
collision with error." John S. Mill



"Have a Cluckity, Cluck, Cluck Day"


  _____ 

Everyone is raving about the
<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=45083/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailb
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:01:33 -0500
From: "William J Repko" <repkowil at msu.edu>
Subject: [eDebate] Attending Mass v. EPA
To: edebate at ndtceda.com
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I got to attend oral arguments, and it was an interesting experience.

attached are my thoughts.

 Best,

   Lou Ferrigno

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:01:24 -0500
From: "Kuswa, Kevin" <kkuswa at richmond.edu>
Subject: Re: [eDebate] Attending Mass v. EPA
To: "William J Repko" <repkowil at msu.edu>, <edebate at ndtceda.com>
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Thanks, Will.  These are fascinating comments--incredibly interesting to
read and educational at the same time.  Really appreciate it,  kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: edebate-bounces at ndtceda.com [mailto:edebate-bounces at ndtceda.com]
On Behalf Of William J Repko
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:02 PM
To: edebate at ndtceda.com
Subject: [eDebate] Attending Mass v. EPA


I got to attend oral arguments, and it was an interesting experience.

attached are my thoughts.

 Best,

   Lou Ferrigno



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From debbie.j.lai  Fri Dec  1 20:13:50 2006
From: debbie.j.lai (Debbie Lai)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 14:13:50 -1200
Subject: [eDebate] ed lee
Message-ID: <62211700612011813h2a4c78eam3c2a78dad06f59ef@mail.gmail.com>

bachannel please =)

Debbie
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From daisy_verney  Sat Dec  2 08:38:47 2006
From: daisy_verney (Danielle Verney)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:38:47 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] UNT Judging
Message-ID: <BAY102-F324562AD41822B5A3534BFE5D90@phx.gbl>

Navy needs to hire 11 rounds of judging at UNT.

We pay very competitively and we could also possibly provide housing if 
needed.

Let me know!

Danielle Verney
Navy Debate

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From jbruschke  Sat Dec  2 16:17:05 2006
From: jbruschke (jbruschke at fullerton.edu)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:17:05 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Northwestern
Message-ID: <013801c7165f$99477610$be8d9789@AD.FULLERTON.EDU>

Name:Owen L. Coon Memorial at Northwestern
Starts:2/10/2007
Ends:2/12/2007
Hosted by: Northwestern
Contact: Scott Deatherage
Address: 1815 Chicago Ave, Evanston IL, 60208
Phone: 847-491-7916
On-line entry allowed: True
AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True
Divisions Offered: 
Owen L. Coon Memorial Debates with 8 prelims, expected to clear to: Doubles
Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com
This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament.
If so, you will be notified by a separate email.


From jbruschke  Sat Dec  2 16:23:04 2006
From: jbruschke (jbruschke at fullerton.edu)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:23:04 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Northwestern
Message-ID: <013d01c71660$6f69baa0$be8d9789@AD.FULLERTON.EDU>

Name:Owen L. Coon Memorial at Northwestern
Starts:2/10/2007
Ends:2/12/2007
Hosted by: Northwestern
Contact: Scott Deatherage
Address: 1815 Chicago Ave, Evanston IL, 60208
Phone: 847-491-7916
On-line entry allowed: True
AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True
Divisions Offered: 
Owen L. Coon Memorial Debates with 8 prelims, expected to clear to: Doubles
Owen L. Coon Memorial Debates with 8 prelims, expected to clear to: Doubles
Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com
This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament.
If so, you will be notified by a separate email.


From adamhfar  Sat Dec  2 18:58:55 2006
From: adamhfar (Adam Farra)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:58:55 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Salvation
Message-ID: <1C06F925-C139-416B-9D23-A771481BCC25@umich.edu>

Ahem.

Go Bruins.

Love,

Adam & Dylan


From neilsbutt  Sat Dec  2 20:22:51 2006
From: neilsbutt (Neil Butt)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 21:22:51 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] JCU Teams Clearing
Message-ID: <afaa5f1d0612021822t55b752f9u76d63ae47e7ceecc@mail.gmail.com>

John Carroll University


Teams Clearing (with number of wins)


Novice

Boston College CO 6

George Mason PP 5

Liberty DT 4

Liberty FN 5

Liberty HS 5

Liberty MN 4

Liberty RW 4

Mary Washington CG 3

Mary Washington KT 3

Rochester CY 4

Rochester DH 3



JV

Boston College MM 4

Case Western NT 3

Clarion AT 3

Liberty BO 5

Liberty UW 6

Rochester HW 3

Wayne State CH 4



Open

Case Western DW 4

Liberty BH 3

Mary Washington JR 6

Miami GY 4

Miami NV 4

Wayne State BN 5

Wayne State GM 5

Wayne State GR 4

Wayne State MP 4
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From bryan.grayson  Sun Dec  3 18:54:22 2006
From: bryan.grayson (Grayson, Bryan)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:54:22 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] 6 rounds of judging available at USC
Message-ID: <29784B0D4B0A9A42BC55D3C2609FBE9D7FF4E4@ntxbeus10.exchange.xchg>

Email me if you want them.

Bryan Grayson


From repkowil  Sun Dec  3 19:32:53 2006
From: repkowil (William J Repko)
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:32:53 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] ...Or not salvation...
Message-ID: <E1Gr2hT-0007xz-3b@sys31.mail.msu.edu>

 

Every Rose has its thorn. 

Always, 

 Brett Michaels 


P.S.  objections should be sent to Mike Eber -- eber at msu.edu



From jbhdb8  Sun Dec  3 19:40:51 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 20:40:51 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] ...Or not salvation...
In-Reply-To: <E1Gr2hT-0007xz-3b@sys31.mail.msu.edu>
References: <E1Gr2hT-0007xz-3b@sys31.mail.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612031740w7354d136wa206e6567c0503bd@mail.gmail.com>

Did I miss the Spartans BCS game?  Did I miss the Spartans bowl game?  Did I
miss the Spartans win over Michigan? They played each other right?

These are simple questions not objections so Eber will not be necessary,

Bret Michaels

ps. Wasnt that Notre Dame MSU game great?




On 12/3/06, William J Repko <repkowil at msu.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> Every Rose has its thorn.
>
> Always,
>
> Brett Michaels
>
>
> P.S.  objections should be sent to Mike Eber -- eber at msu.edu
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jbhdb8  Sun Dec  3 19:52:25 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 20:52:25 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] ...Or not salvation...
In-Reply-To: <f6ec14bb0612031740w7354d136wa206e6567c0503bd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1Gr2hT-0007xz-3b@sys31.mail.msu.edu>
	<f6ec14bb0612031740w7354d136wa206e6567c0503bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612031752t647656d5uf6d317a425819aa@mail.gmail.com>

Isnt that some crazy noise talking between "Brett Michaels" and former
Poison singer "Bret Michaels?"  For our part, we are happy to be going to
the grandpappy of them all the Rose Bowl (although Urban Meyer now joins
Phil Fulmer in the Michigan hall of shame),

Josh
Michigan


On 12/3/06, Josh Hoe <jbhdb8 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Did I miss the Spartans BCS game?  Did I miss the Spartans bowl game?  Did
> I miss the Spartans win over Michigan? They played each other right?
>
> These are simple questions not objections so Eber will not be necessary,
>
> Bret Michaels
>
> ps. Wasnt that Notre Dame MSU game great?
>
>
>
>
> On 12/3/06, William J Repko <repkowil at msu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Every Rose has its thorn.
> >
> > Always,
> >
> > Brett Michaels
> >
> >
> > P.S.  objections should be sent to Mike Eber -- eber at msu.edu
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > eDebate mailing list
> > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com
> > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
> >
>
>
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From jasonlrussell1  Sun Dec  3 21:26:29 2006
From: jasonlrussell1 (Jason Russell)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:26:29 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
Message-ID: <f1a75e510612031926q1cf0fe9dm2a8af83b708ff903@mail.gmail.com>

1. It never stops being funny to yank Hoe's chain. He has exceeded his own
previously lofty record in ground-speed from 0 to crazy. I was pretty sure
for a second there he would clown Repko's little league team. He still may
now that Ive given him the idea.

2. I was kinda a supporter of the idea of Michigan playing OSU again before,
but now Ive changed my mind because it is quite possible their fans exhibit
more of a sense of entitlement than any other fans short of Notre Dame fans.
Im basing this decision solely on the reaction of Josh, which is irrational,
but fun.

3. Come on...Farra and Keenan deserved a bit of a ribbing for counting those
chickens when they did. Totally legit play to pour salt on the wound they
opened up by posting 24 hours before they games are announced. And where was
your outrage at those dong-gongers for USC fans who had just hilariously had
their hearts' broken by UCLA? I mean, live by the sword, my friends.

Go blow,
J

P.S. I ordered these subpoints to make it easier for the inevitable and
forthcoming Hoe line-by-line assault. Should be entertaining as usual.
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From jbhdb8  Sun Dec  3 21:48:54 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:48:54 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
In-Reply-To: <f1a75e510612031926q1cf0fe9dm2a8af83b708ff903@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f1a75e510612031926q1cf0fe9dm2a8af83b708ff903@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612031948y127b5162lc203f8f7a7622022@mail.gmail.com>

......Not like I can do anything about the BCS.....But ok, you got me,

Dont worry, I hate Urban Meyer more than I hate you :)

J

ps. OU Big 12 Champs!!!! (yes, I have a rule that if Michigan and OU play I
cheer for OU...yes, its happened - I wore an OU jersey to the UofM OU NIT
game).





On 12/3/06, Jason Russell <jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 1. It never stops being funny to yank Hoe's chain. He has exceeded his own
> previously lofty record in ground-speed from 0 to crazy. I was pretty sure
> for a second there he would clown Repko's little league team. He still may
> now that Ive given him the idea.
>
> 2. I was kinda a supporter of the idea of Michigan playing OSU again
> before, but now Ive changed my mind because it is quite possible their fans
> exhibit more of a sense of entitlement than any other fans short of Notre
> Dame fans. Im basing this decision solely on the reaction of Josh, which is
> irrational, but fun.
>
> 3. Come on...Farra and Keenan deserved a bit of a ribbing for counting
> those chickens when they did. Totally legit play to pour salt on the wound
> they opened up by posting 24 hours before they games are announced. And
> where was your outrage at those dong-gongers for USC fans who had just
> hilariously had their hearts' broken by UCLA? I mean, live by the sword, my
> friends.
>
> Go blow,
> J
>
> P.S. I ordered these subpoints to make it easier for the inevitable and
> forthcoming Hoe line-by-line assault. Should be entertaining as usual.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> eDebate mailing list
> eDebate at www.ndtceda.com
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From GatorDebate  Sun Dec  3 23:08:55 2006
From: GatorDebate (GatorDebate at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 00:08:55 EST
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
Message-ID: <585.7010fce.32a50767@aol.com>

 
 
Don't be haters...Just be happy for the Gators.  I'm sure  Urban would like 
you if he met you Josh.  Michigan had their shot and they  lost.  Heck, the 
Fighting Zooks only lost by 7 and held OSU to 17  points.  Let's give them a 
rematch.  The BCS can never really get it  *right* but this is as right as they 
could possibly get it.  12-1 in the  toughest conference with the toughest 
schedule is tough to pass up.  
 
It's great...to be...a Florida Gator!  Said it's great...to be...a  Florida 
Gator!
 
frank
 
In a message dated 12/3/2006 10:50:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jbhdb8 at gmail.com writes:

......Not like I can do anything about the BCS.....But ok, you got  me,
 
Dont worry, I hate Urban Meyer more than I hate you :)
 
J

ps. OU Big 12 Champs!!!! (yes, I have a rule that if Michigan and OU play  I 
cheer for OU...yes, its happened - I wore an OU jersey to the UofM OU NIT  
game).




 
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University of  Florida
Center for Written and Oral Communication
413 Rolfs Hall
PO Box  112032
Gainesville, FL 32611-2032
Tel: 352-392-5421 (Office)
Tel:  386-216-3193 (Cell)
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From iriamenzo  Mon Dec  4 01:22:58 2006
From: iriamenzo (Phillip Samuels)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:22:58 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
In-Reply-To: <585.7010fce.32a50767@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY125-F3313492885615A32134889AFDF0@phx.gbl>



I will go on record saying that Florida will get smoked.  Let's look at some 
of Florida's wins--and I use that term loosely--they barely beat South 
Carolina by a point (17-16), they beat Vandy by 6 points, (who Michigan beat 
by 20) and they escaped with a win against a powerful 6-6 Florida State 
team.  This team is in way over their heads which Urban Meyer knows.  It is 
true that Florida won a mediocre SEC this year.  Auburn,Tennessee, Georgia, 
and LSU were not nearly as good as they have been in the past.  But 
pollsters have fooled themselves into believing that the SEC is the best 
conference in college football regardless of how good the teams actually 
are.  This year conference play was a joke, all across the nation, the two 
best teams are clearly OSU and Michigan and they should be playing each 
other.  Florida lost to Auburn which is a deeply flawed team.  Aurburn got 
beat like dogs by a very average Georgia team.  However, Michigan only lost 
to OSU on the road by 3 points. Michigan's quality of loss far exceeds any 
other teams in the country.  In the end that should be the deciding factor, 
but it wasn't television ratings were.  The brain trust that does the polls 
did some polling of their own and found that people wanted to watch someone 
OTHER than Michigan play and that is what we got.  Even though it is going 
to be blowout it won't matter cause people will watch until halftime.  And 
to top it off they place Michigan in the Rose Bowl against USC, functionally 
making Michigan play USC at home.  Priceless! Do not email about the 
logistics of the Bowl system I understand them but it reminds me of the days 
when Big 8 teams had to go to Orange Bowl and play Miami for the national 
championship know how many of those games Miami lost? Zero.  Ok I have 
homework but I will say I have never been a proponent of a playoff but after 
this jobbing I am leaning heavily in that direction.  Phil



>From: GatorDebate at aol.com
>To: jbhdb8 at gmail.com, jasonlrussell1 at gmail.com
>CC: edebate at ndtceda.com
>Subject: Re: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 00:08:55 EST
>
>
>
>Don't be haters...Just be happy for the Gators.  I'm sure  Urban would like
>you if he met you Josh.  Michigan had their shot and they  lost.  Heck, the
>Fighting Zooks only lost by 7 and held OSU to 17  points.  Let's give them 
>a
>rematch.  The BCS can never really get it  *right* but this is as right as 
>they
>could possibly get it.  12-1 in the  toughest conference with the toughest
>schedule is tough to pass up.
>
>It's great...to be...a Florida Gator!  Said it's great...to be...a  Florida
>Gator!
>
>frank
>
>In a message dated 12/3/2006 10:50:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>jbhdb8 at gmail.com writes:
>
>......Not like I can do anything about the BCS.....But ok, you got  me,
>
>Dont worry, I hate Urban Meyer more than I hate you :)
>
>J
>
>ps. OU Big 12 Champs!!!! (yes, I have a rule that if Michigan and OU play  
>I
>cheer for OU...yes, its happened - I wore an OU jersey to the UofM OU NIT
>game).
>
>
>
>
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From delliott  Mon Dec  4 02:45:13 2006
From: delliott (Darren Elliott)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:45:13 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Legends vs. Legend Killers: Who's Next?
Message-ID: <s5738bc2.009@netware.kckcc.edu>

Follow my train of thought, it ends with a purpose.  : )

So I went to see my nephew (a HS junior) wrestle this weekend.  He is
great.  Went 5-0 and won his class.  My sister is beside herself though
because all of her kids are really smart yet this one has decided he is
going to "college" for the WWE.  Plans to become a WWE superstar folks. 
He loves the stuff.  True to form last Sunday over the Holiday I was at
their house and a WWE Pay-Per-View was on.  One of the first matches was
a Legend Vs. Legend Killers match.  Ric Flair and a bunch of other 60
somethings against these young dudes and of course the old guys win.  I
laughed and told my sister maybe in 10 years her then 26 yr old son
could wrestle Flair who would be like 80 and lose to a legend too.  She
was not amused.  But it got me thinking....

Fast forward to our world now.  It has been posted.  The call has been
made.  This year's Heart of America is an OPEN Heart.  All who dare can
enter.  So naturally I think this is debates version of Legends vs.
Legend Killers.  I am interested in what Legends are coming out and what
Legend Killers think they got what it takes to knock people off their
thrones.

I've heard rumors but I'd like confirmation.  I also will allow those
I've heard from to "out" themselves.  So pony up if you got what it
takes and tell us--who is coming to the HEART?  Will you be a LEGEND or
a LEGEND KILLER??

chief

Darren Elliott
Director of Debate--KCKCC
CEDA 2nd VP


From i_pastrana  Mon Dec  4 03:04:20 2006
From: i_pastrana (Israel Pastrana)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 01:04:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] Legends vs. Legend Killers: Who's Next?
Message-ID: <102873.45611.qm@web35308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've heard a rumor that Jordan Mills is thinking about coming back for a second top speaker award at the Heart.

I'll make the obvious call out and ask, will Korcok debate?

 
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From FijiPapabear  Mon Dec  4 08:18:58 2006
From: FijiPapabear (FijiPapabear at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:18:58 EST
Subject: [eDebate] Legends vs. Legend Killers: Who's Next?
Message-ID: <238.3c1d35ad.32a58852@aol.com>

Im not going to be a legend killer, if I go it would be just to be a chief  
killer.  
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From andy.edebate  Mon Dec  4 09:01:17 2006
From: andy.edebate (Andy Ellis)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:01:17 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] ric flair
Message-ID: <9368bc9b0612040701p3012cd0dve425a2454435945c@mail.gmail.com>

i say shanahan and katsulas should debate again..together of course...

woooooooooooooooooo
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From scottelliott  Mon Dec  4 09:59:07 2006
From: scottelliott (scottelliott at grandecom.net)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:59:07 -0600
Subject: [eDebate]  Legends vs. Legend Killers: Who's Next?
Message-ID: <1165247947.457445cbdb354@webmail.grandecom.net>

I'll pay the entry Heart fee for a two person team composed on any of the four
following:

Josh Hoe

Darren Elliott

Jason Russell

Mike Korcock







From jtedebate  Mon Dec  4 10:01:51 2006
From: jtedebate (J T)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 08:01:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] rounds for sale at TX Swing
Message-ID: <683933.88280.qm@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have two rounds at each for sale--cash


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From matt_gerber27  Mon Dec  4 10:23:55 2006
From: matt_gerber27 (Matt Gerber)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:23:55 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
Message-ID: <BAY125-F1852A2C2EFEB4BF684A5699CDF0@phx.gbl>

I have heard rumors about the Open Heart, but there is still no official 
posting/invite from the Jayhawks....is this going to happen? Certain people 
need to know asap so they can start doing speed drills (although I 
personally never stopped...).

I am not trying to call anyone out here, but here are some of the 
"tentative" Heart partner pairings that I have heard about through the 
proverbial Grapevine. Not sure any of these folks have reached "legend" 
status yet, maybe Zive...

Scott Herndon & David Magariel (hopefully one of them got faster...)

Hajir Ardibili & Josh Zive (actually a scary team...two former debate stars 
turned attorneys, on a legal topic? Yikes.)

Terri Easley & Halli Tripe (can you say Topicality?)

Jeff Roberts & Obie Lansford (can you say Baudrillard?)

Mike Eber & Scott Harris (actually I haven't heard this, but wouldn't it be 
sweet?)

Myself & Jake Thompson (bad cop + worse cop =s SLOW cop)

If you know of other potential partner pairings for the Heart, post 'em to 
edebate, let's get this thing going....even if you have heard it in the 
context of "smack talk" like I heard from Leeper the other day...that's 
right, she has made the claim that her and Palczewski could really mop up if 
this thing happens.

~Gerber

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From andy.edebate  Mon Dec  4 11:24:30 2006
From: andy.edebate (Andy Ellis)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:24:30 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-F1852A2C2EFEB4BF684A5699CDF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY125-F1852A2C2EFEB4BF684A5699CDF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9368bc9b0612040924q1d9cbd70xed51e3158706a99a@mail.gmail.com>

I would Like to see Erik jenkins and Monte Stevens Back in action




On 12/4/06, Matt Gerber <matt_gerber27 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have heard rumors about the Open Heart, but there is still no official
> posting/invite from the Jayhawks....is this going to happen? Certain
> people
> need to know asap so they can start doing speed drills (although I
> personally never stopped...).
>
> I am not trying to call anyone out here, but here are some of the
> "tentative" Heart partner pairings that I have heard about through the
> proverbial Grapevine. Not sure any of these folks have reached "legend"
> status yet, maybe Zive...
>
> Scott Herndon & David Magariel (hopefully one of them got faster...)
>
> Hajir Ardibili & Josh Zive (actually a scary team...two former debate
> stars
> turned attorneys, on a legal topic? Yikes.)
>
> Terri Easley & Halli Tripe (can you say Topicality?)
>
> Jeff Roberts & Obie Lansford (can you say Baudrillard?)
>
> Mike Eber & Scott Harris (actually I haven't heard this, but wouldn't it
> be
> sweet?)
>
> Myself & Jake Thompson (bad cop + worse cop =s SLOW cop)
>
> If you know of other potential partner pairings for the Heart, post 'em to
> edebate, let's get this thing going....even if you have heard it in the
> context of "smack talk" like I heard from Leeper the other day...that's
> right, she has made the claim that her and Palczewski could really mop up
> if
> this thing happens.
>
> ~Gerber
>
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From GatorDebate  Mon Dec  4 11:28:15 2006
From: GatorDebate (GatorDebate at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:28:15 EST
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
Message-ID: <d16.178d383.32a5b4af@aol.com>



I will  go on record saying that Florida will get smoked.  
I will go on record that Michigan already lost to Ohio State.
I will go on record that Michigan was completely outplayed by Ohio State  and 
would probably lose again.

Let's  look at some 
of Florida's wins--and I use that term loosely--they barely  beat South 
Carolina by a point (17-16), they beat Vandy by 6 points, (who  Michigan beat 
by 20) and they escaped with a win against a powerful 6-6  Florida State 
team.  This team is in way over their heads which Urban  Meyer knows.  
But the bottom line is they won their games.  Florida played the  
statistically toughest schedule in the country in the toughest conference in the  
country.  They beat more bowl eligible teams than Michigan and more top-25  teams 
than Michigan.  Florida State would beat Notre Dame, Michigan's  toughest non 
conference opponent because Notre Dame is one of the two most  overrated teams in 
college football (the other being Wisconsin).  Also,  Florida State was 6-6 
but don't tell me a win over FSU is easy because teams  play REAL tough in big 
rivalry games.  Just ask USC about UCLA.   Additionally, no one plays as many 
big rivalry games as Florida.  Having to  get up to play Tennessee, Georgia 
and Florida State every year is freaking  tough.  Michigan gets OSU and an 
overrated Notre Dame team every  year.  Florida always has tough SEC West teams 
like Auburn and LSU to play  and when all is said and done, the SEC has a 
Conference Championship game that  teams have to get primed for (no easy task...just 
ask Oklahoma from a few years  back).  Big Ten has no Conference Championship 
game.  Don't denigrate  Florida or their schedule.  You just sound silly.

It is  
true that Florida won a mediocre SEC this year.  Auburn,Tennessee,  Georgia, 
and LSU were not nearly as good as they have been in the  past.  But 
pollsters have fooled themselves into believing that the  SEC is the best 
conference in college football regardless of how good the  teams actually 
are.  This year conference play was a joke, all across  the nation, the two 
best teams are clearly OSU and Michigan and they  should be playing each 
other.  
The SEC is the toughest conference in football every year.  Hands  down.  You 
are naive or just a hater to think otherwise.  First off,  we can just write 
off the Big East, ACC and Pac-10 for being far inferior this  year and every 
year to the SEC.  The Big 12 is a bit down this year (the  Big 12 North might 
be one of the worst Divisions in Football) so lets compare  the SEC and Big 10 
top to bottom.  The Big 10 has three teams in the BCS  Top 25.  Wisconsin is 
the most overrated team around.  Out of  conference games against Bowling 
Green, Western Illinois, San Diego State and  Buffalo is pathetic, plus they 
avoided playing Ohio State and got to feast on  the chum of the Big 10 (Indiana, 
Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota plus  a down Iowa team and a down Penn 
State).  Notre Dame (not in the Big Ten  but touted as a "real" win by 
Michigan fans) is the second most overrated  team around (one win against a top 25 
team in the Weiss era and a strength of  schedule in the 50's).  This is who 
Michigan got to feast on.  Sure  they played well against Ohio State but when 
that is your one tough game you can  prepare well for it.  Heck, Illinois only 
lost by 7 to Ohio State and there  defense played better than Michigan's defense 
(17 points compared to 42  points).  Let's give the Fighting Zooks another 
shot!  (This also  shows how ridiculous it is to define a season by losses 
rather than wins)  It's not like it is at Florida where navigating the SEC is like 
navigating  a minefield.  I really doubt Michigan could go undefeated in the 
SEC  because it is an absolute grind.  Whereas the Big Ten has three teams in  
the Top 25, the SEC has five in the top 25 including four in the top 12 of the 
 BCS.  Tennessee is ranked 17.  Florida played them all.  They  best Georgia, 
LSU, Arkansas, Tennessee and they beat decent teams South  Carolina, Georgia, 
Florida State.  All I'm saying is that in a season like  that, the likelihood 
of running the table is super tough.  Auburn did it  and it was a rarity.  I 
don't know how you can say the SEC is  overrated.  Lets match up the top 11 in 
the SEC and the entire  Big Ten.  I'll use the Fox Sports Top 119 which rates 
all Division 1-A  teams.  My apologies to Jason Russell who thinks the Fox 
poll is biased  because of some Rupert Murdoch/Fox News/Bill O'reilly/Southern 
conservative  thing.  I'm using it because the AP, Coaches and Harris polls 
don't rank  teams 1-119.  If you don't like this poll, find another that ranks 
all 119  teams and I'll bet you a dinner that the SEC has a higher aggregate 
ranking than  the Big 10 on a team by team basis:  

1 Florida (2)        Ohio State  (1)
2 Arkansas (5)    Michigan (3)
3 Auburn (6)        Wisconsin (11)
4 Tennessee (9)   Iowa (35)
5 LSU (10)          Penn  State (36)
6 Alabama (33)    Purdue (46)
7 Georgia (39)      Indiana (59)
8 South Carolina (40)   Michigan State (66)
9 Vanderbilt (49)    Minnesota (70)
10 Kentucky (56)   Illinois (78)
11 Ole Miss (68)     Northwestern (87)
 
I don't think ANY of the Big Ten teams in matchups 4-11 have a sniff of a  
chance against the SEC team.  That is why the SEC is such a tough  conference.  
Michigan had one decent and two overrated opponents to prepare  for.  To win 
in the SEC Even our 8th best team is as good or better than  the Big Ten #5.  
Give the SEC its due.

 
 

Florida  lost to Auburn which is a deeply flawed team.  Aurburn got 
beat like  dogs by a very average Georgia team.  
Auburn isn't very good?  Are you serious?  They are a top-10 team  in the AP, 
Harris and Coaches poll, #9 BCS, #6 Fox Rankings.  There only  losses were to 
a hot Arkansas team and a Georgia team that finished strong and  had wins 
against the ACC Runner up in Georgia Tech and Colorado (a marginal team  but 
better than playing a 1-AA cream puff).  They beat Florida, LSU,  Georgia, 'Bama 
and South Carolina.  Give them some credit.  They  didn't play the cake 
schedule Wisconsin had who didn't even have to play OSU  this year (see above on 
Wisonsin's JOKE schedule.  War Eagle!

However,  Michigan only lost 
to OSU on the road by 3 points. Michigan's quality of  loss far exceeds any 
other teams in the country.  In the end that  should be the deciding factor, 
but it wasn't television ratings  were.  
First of all, quality wins should matter more than quality losses (see  
Illinois argument above) and Florida had more quality wins, played more  bowl 
eligible teams, more top 25 teams, played in a tougher conference.   You can say 
quality of loss is more important than quality of win and that is  your right.  
Lets just say most fans, coaches, and sportswriters are more  likely to rank 
you based on wins than losses.  If losses mattered more than  wins than USC 
should never have been in contention because a loss to a 6-4  Oregon State team 
is worse than a loss to OSU or Auburn.  The rest of the  world (outside of 
Michigan fans, you and Jason Russell) rank wins higher than  losses.  That's why 
Florida got in.  They played the statistically  tougher schedule than Michigan, 
they played in a better conference than the Big  Ten, they beat more bowl 
eligible teams than Michigan and there strongest  argument is stronger than the 
Wolverine mantra of "At least we lost  close!"

The  brain trust that does the polls 
did some polling of their own and found  that people wanted to watch someone 
OTHER than Michigan play and that is  what we got.  
Do you have proof of this?  The ESPN Sportsnation poll indicated 51%  wanted 
an Ohio State-Michigan rematch.  Wouldn't this be "evidence" to the  powers 
that be that TV ratings would be high for a rematch of one of the most  watched 
college football games ever?  Please keep your conspiracy theories  to the 
world of politics.  I don't see it here.  Also, these "powers  that be"...are you 
referring to the coaches, to the AP, to the other polls which  ALL have 
Florida rated higher?  Are they all a part of the conspiracy to  keep Michigan down?

Even  though it is going 
to be blowout it won't matter cause people will watch  until halftime.  And 
to top it off they place Michigan in the Rose  Bowl against USC, functionally 
making Michigan play USC at home.   
Just in case you didn't know this, the Big 10 played the Pac 10 at the Rose  
Bowl for many years before the BCS came along.  Non unique.  Michigan  and USC 
have met in the Rose Bowl in 1948, 1970, 1977, 1979, 1989, 1990 and  2004, 
but I'm sure it's always been part of the grand conspiracy  

Priceless! Do not email about the 
logistics of the Bowl system I  understand them but it reminds me of the days 
when Big 8 teams had to go  to Orange Bowl and play Miami for the national 
championship know how many  of those games Miami lost? Zero.  
How about you know what you're talking about before you write.  1995  Orange 
Bowl, last time Miami played a Big8/12 team
Nebraska 24  -  Miami 17 - Osborne wins National Championship and  Tommie 
Frasier wins Orange Bowl MVP.  get your facts straight.

Ok I  have 
homework but I will say I have never been a proponent of a playoff  but after 
this jobbing I am leaning heavily in that direction.   Phil
First thing you've said that made sense.  A playoff system would be  best but 
in the status quo, you play the hand you are dealt and the BCS got it  as 
right as it could this year.  GO GATORS!
 
frank
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From jbhdb8  Mon Dec  4 11:43:57 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:43:57 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Legends vs. Legend Killers: Who's Next?
In-Reply-To: <1165247947.457445cbdb354@webmail.grandecom.net>
References: <1165247947.457445cbdb354@webmail.grandecom.net>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612040943x3f01d51fub0e9c50536b87702@mail.gmail.com>

Oh my, thats way too much sarcasm for any one team to have.

Josh


On 12/4/06, scottelliott at grandecom.net <scottelliott at grandecom.net> wrote:
>
> I'll pay the entry Heart fee for a two person team composed on any of the
> four
> following:
>
> Josh Hoe
>
> Darren Elliott
>
> Jason Russell
>
> Mike Korcock
>
>
>
>
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From kenrjohnson  Mon Dec  4 11:51:32 2006
From: kenrjohnson (Ken Johnson)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:51:32 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] Congrats to Dr. Mike Baxter-Kauf
In-Reply-To: <30737445.1164937151371.JavaMail.weblogic@10.30.2.248>
Message-ID: <BAY116-F15B0D8CEF602660764A9D1A6DF0@phx.gbl>

The University of Rochester Debate Union congratulates Dr. Mike Baxter-Kauf 
on the successful defense of his dissertation.  We are lucky to have you on 
our staff and wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

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From neilsbutt  Mon Dec  4 11:58:04 2006
From: neilsbutt (Neil Butt)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:58:04 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] JCU Results
Message-ID: <afaa5f1d0612040958g42ba22cdw50cf762f7780fd10@mail.gmail.com>

Austin J. Freeley Debates at John Carroll University 2006

Final Rsults



Novice Speakers

1. Eddie Fitzgerald (Liberty University FN)

2. Amanda Gardner (Mary Washington CG)

3. Joshua Turnage (Liberty University DT)

4. Katie Northey (Liberty University FN)

5. Amber Nicholson (Liberty   University MN)

6. Josh Melder (Liberty   University MN)

7. Ben Hagwood (Liberty  University HS)

8. Rona Yang (Rochester CY)

9. Paul Penchalapadu (George Mason Univers PP)

10. Grace Woodson (Liberty University RW)



JV Speakers

1. Donald Ussery (Liberty University UW)

2. Kurt Edelbrock (Michigan-dearborn EM)

3. Cathleen Wynne (Rochester HW)

4. Daniel White (Liberty University UW)

5. Michelle Oh (Liberty University BO)

6. Geneva Hackler (Wayne State Universi CH)

7. Matthew Maerowitz (Boston College MM)

8. Samantha Godbey (West   Virginia Univer GN)

9. Sarah Tremont (Case Western NT)

10. Mark Coco (Wayne  State Universi CH)



Open Speakers

1. Gabe Murillo (Wayne  State Universi GM)

2. Nick Ryan (Mary Washington JR)

3. Ilya Galperin (Miami GY)

4. Nick Denissen (Case Western DW)

5. Bruce Najor (Wayne  State Universi BN)

6. Sean Jansen (Mary Washington JR)

7. Cole Bender (Liberty University BH)

8. Rachel Hassenpflug (Liberty University BH)

9. Dustin Greenwalt (Wayne State Universi GR)

10. Chime Asonye (Illinois (university AS)



Novice

Octafinal Round Results

Boston College CO Advances without debating

Liberty University FN Advances without debating

Liberty University HS Advances without debating

George Mason Univers PP Advances without debating

Liberty University MN Advances without debating

Liberty University DT (Aff) defeated Mary Washington KT      3-0
Carson, Austin               Johnson, Ken       Baxter-kauf, Mik

Rochester CY Advances Over Rochester DH

Liberty University RW (Aff) defeated Mary Washington CG     2-1
Bowman, Pamela            Wiley, Elizabeth   *Young, Kelly



Quarterfinal Round Results

Boston College CO (Neg) defeated Liberty University RW         2-1
Gayetsky, Matt              *Strait, Paul           Miller, Gordie

Liberty University FN (Neg) defeated Rochester CY     3-0 Bowman,
Pamela            Brovero, Adrienn Moore, Matt

Liberty University HS Advances Over Liberty University DT

George Mason Univers PP (Neg) defeated Liberty University MN
 2-1 *O'donnell, Tim              Katsulas, John      Baxter-kauf, Kat



Semifinal Round Results

George Mason Univers PP (Neg) defeated Boston College CO   2-1 Nagy,
John     *Wiley, Elizabeth Weitz, Mike

Liberty University FN Advances over Liberty  University HS



Final Round Results

Liberty University FN (Neg) defeated George Mason Univers PP
   3-0 Gayetsky, Matt              Peters, Donny       Mancuso, Steve



JV

Quarterfinal Round Results

Liberty University UW Advances without debating

Liberty University BO (Aff) defeated Clarion University AT       3-0
Johnson, Jay  Glass, Tim              Katsulas, John

Wayne State Universi CH (Neg) defeated Case Western NT      3-0 Nagy,
John     Gonzalez, J             Moore, Matt

Boston College MM (Neg) defeated Rochester HW     3-0 Peters, Donny
            Gayetsky, Matt     Bryant, Tabetha



Semifinal Round Results

Boston College MM (Aft) defeated Liberty University UW        2-1
Mancuso, Steve             *Forchione, Tasha Peters, Donny

Liberty University BO (Neg) defeated Wayne State Universi CH
    2-1 Johnson, Ken Carson, Austin     *Baxter-kauf, Mik



Final Round Results

Boston College MM (Neg) defeated Liberty University BO        2-1
*Bowman, Pamela Gayetsky, Matt             O'donnell, Tim



Open

Octafinal Round Results

Mary Washington JR Advances without debating

Wayne State Universi GM Advances without debating

Wayne State Universi BN Advances without debating

Case Western DW Advances without debating

Miami GY Advances without debating

Wayne State Universi GR Advances without debating

Wayne State Universi MP Advances without debating

Miami NV (Neg) defeated Liberty University BH           2-1 Strait,
Paul       *Brovero, Adrienn Fitzmier, Dan



Quarterfinal Round Results

Mary Washington JR (Neg) defeated Miami NV            3-0 Johnson, Jay
 Sovacool, Ben      Gonzalez, J

Wayne State Universi GM Advances Over  Wayne State Universi MP

Wayne State Universi BN Advances Over  Wayne State Universi GR

Miami GY (Neg) defeated Case Western DW 3-0 Weitz, Mike    Nagy, John
          Hall, Michael



Semifinal Round Results

Miami GY (Neg) defeated Mary Washington JR            2-1 Peters,
Donny                Hall, Michael         *Johnson, Jay

Wayne State Universi GM Advances Over  Wayne State Universi BN



Final Round Results

Wayne State Universi GM (Aff) defeated Miami GY     3-0 Bowman, Pamela
           Sovacool, Ben      Forchione, Tasha


From jbhdb8  Mon Dec  4 12:05:44 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:05:44 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
In-Reply-To: <d16.178d383.32a5b4af@aol.com>
References: <d16.178d383.32a5b4af@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612041005k53e1d395h5596dbcc43fa9282@mail.gmail.com>

Honestly,

I realy dont think Michigan got "jobbed" because Florida is an inferior
number two.  The reason Michigan got "jobbed" is because after Florida
finished that schedule you love so much Michigan was rated higher than
them....then Florida barely beat a terrible FSU team.....and Michigan was
still rated higher than them....then Florida beat a now 3 loss Arkansas
team...and somehow they jumped above Michigan.  As Lloyd put it "I don't
think they would have moved ahead of us if USC had won their game," Carr
said of the Gators. "I don't know what the voters were thinking ? you'd have
to ask them ? but I don't think there's any question that if USC wins, we
remain No. 3."  This point was proven last week when - Michigan stayed ahead
of Florida.

In other words, the problem isnt Florida or Florida's schedule or if Florida
is deserving...The problem is with a system that became a popularity
contest.

Another problem was with an opposing coach (Meyer) not just pumping his own
teams credentials but also denigrating the other team in the press.

Another problem was with the sweater vest abstaining (after already being
caught letting his Assistant AD do the voting earlier in the year) seemingly
because as a Big Ten coach he couldnt rank Florida and he didnt want to play
Michigan again.

Finally, the coaches poll became a north/south divide for the most part
(with Big Ten votes hurting Michigan because Zook voted for Florida -
shocker - and Tressell abstained while all the SEC voters voted Florida 2).

Now all that said:

Florida is a deserving team.  They have had a great year.

Your arguments about schedule are inherently circular - basically your
argument is "everybody knows the SEC is the toughest conference" and then
quoting back SEC wins and saying that means excellence.  Truth is this is
all subjective....I am not sure by how you are making your arguments that
you have seen many Michigan games this year.  I have seen a ton of Florida
games and do think they are a very talented squad especially on defense.

Wouldnt it just be better to let us settle it on the field?  Thats the one
thing Lloyd and Meyer have pushed in concert.

Josh









On 12/4/06, GatorDebate at aol.com <GatorDebate at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I will go on record saying that Florida will get smoked.
>
> I will go on record that Michigan already lost to Ohio State.
> I will go on record that Michigan was completely outplayed by Ohio State
> and would probably lose again.
>
> Let's look at some
> of Florida's wins--and I use that term loosely--they barely beat South
> Carolina by a point (17-16), they beat Vandy by 6 points, (who Michigan
> beat
> by 20) and they escaped with a win against a powerful 6-6 Florida State
> team.  This team is in way over their heads which Urban Meyer knows.
>
> But the bottom line is they won their games.  Florida played the
> statistically toughest schedule in the country in the toughest conference in
> the country.  They beat more bowl eligible teams than Michigan and more
> top-25 teams than Michigan.  Florida State would beat Notre Dame, Michigan's
> toughest non conference opponent because Notre Dame is one of the two most
> overrated teams in college football (the other being Wisconsin).  Also,
> Florida State was 6-6 but don't tell me a win over FSU is easy because teams
> play REAL tough in big rivalry games.  Just ask USC about UCLA.
> Additionally, no one plays as many big rivalry games as Florida.  Having to
> get up to play Tennessee, Georgia and Florida State every year is freaking
> tough.  Michigan gets OSU and an overrated Notre Dame team every year.
> Florida always has tough SEC West teams like Auburn and LSU to play and when
> all is said and done, the SEC has a Conference Championship game that teams
> have to get primed for (no easy task...just ask Oklahoma from a few years
> back).  Big Ten has no Conference Championship game.  Don't denigrate
> Florida or their schedule.  You just sound silly.
>
> It is
> true that Florida won a mediocre SEC this year.  Auburn,Tennessee,
> Georgia,
> and LSU were not nearly as good as they have been in the past.  But
> pollsters have fooled themselves into believing that the SEC is the best
> conference in college football regardless of how good the teams actually
> are.  This year conference play was a joke, all across the nation, the two
>
> best teams are clearly OSU and Michigan and they should be playing each
> other.
>
> The SEC is the toughest conference in football every year.  Hands down.
> You are naive or just a hater to think otherwise.  First off, we can just
> write off the Big East, ACC and Pac-10 for being far inferior this year and
> every year to the SEC.  The Big 12 is a bit down this year (the Big 12 North
> might be one of the worst Divisions in Football) so lets compare the SEC and
> Big 10 top to bottom.  The Big 10 has three teams in the BCS Top 25.
> Wisconsin is the most overrated team around.  Out of conference games
> against Bowling Green, Western Illinois, San Diego State and Buffalo is
> pathetic, plus they avoided playing Ohio State and got to feast on the chum
> of the Big 10 (Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota plus a
> down Iowa team and a down Penn State).  Notre Dame (not in the Big Ten but
> touted as a "real" win by Michigan fans) is the second most overrated team
> around (one win against a top 25 team in the Weiss era and a strength of
> schedule in the 50's).  This is who Michigan got to feast on.  Sure they
> played well against Ohio State but when that is your one tough game you can
> prepare well for it.  Heck, Illinois only lost by 7 to Ohio State and there
> defense played better than Michigan's defense (17 points compared to 42
> points).  Let's give the Fighting Zooks another shot!  (This also shows how
> ridiculous it is to define a season by losses rather than wins)  It's not
> like it is at Florida where navigating the SEC is like navigating a
> minefield.  I really doubt Michigan could go undefeated in the SEC because
> it is an absolute grind.  Whereas the Big Ten has three teams in the Top 25,
> the SEC has five in the top 25 including four in the top 12 of the BCS.
> Tennessee is ranked 17.  Florida played them all.  They best Georgia, LSU,
> Arkansas, Tennessee and they beat decent teams South Carolina, Georgia,
> Florida State.  All I'm saying is that in a season like that, the likelihood
> of running the table is super tough.  Auburn did it and it was a rarity.  I
> don't know how you can say the SEC is overrated.  Lets match up the top 11
> in the SEC and the entire Big Ten.  I'll use the Fox Sports Top 119 which
> rates all Division 1-A teams.  My apologies to Jason Russell who thinks the
> Fox poll is biased because of some Rupert Murdoch/Fox News/Bill
> O'reilly/Southern conservative thing.  I'm using it because the AP, Coaches
> and Harris polls don't rank teams 1-119.  If you don't like this poll, find
> another that ranks all 119 teams and I'll bet you a dinner that the SEC has
> a higher aggregate ranking than the Big 10 on a team by team basis:
> 1 Florida (2)        Ohio State (1)
> 2 Arkansas (5)    Michigan (3)
> 3 Auburn (6)        Wisconsin (11)
> 4 Tennessee (9)   Iowa (35)
> 5 LSU (10)          Penn State (36)
> 6 Alabama (33)    Purdue (46)
> 7 Georgia (39)      Indiana (59)
> 8 South Carolina (40)   Michigan State (66)
> 9 Vanderbilt (49)    Minnesota (70)
> 10 Kentucky (56)   Illinois (78)
> 11 Ole Miss (68)     Northwestern (87)
>
> I don't think ANY of the Big Ten teams in matchups 4-11 have a sniff of a
> chance against the SEC team.  That is why the SEC is such a tough
> conference.  Michigan had one decent and two overrated opponents to prepare
> for.  To win in the SEC Even our 8th best team is as good or better than the
> Big Ten #5.  Give the SEC its due.
>
>
>
> Florida lost to Auburn which is a deeply flawed team.  Aurburn got
> beat like dogs by a very average Georgia team.
>
> Auburn isn't very good?  Are you serious?  They are a top-10 team in the
> AP, Harris and Coaches poll, #9 BCS, #6 Fox Rankings.  There only losses
> were to a hot Arkansas team and a Georgia team that finished strong and had
> wins against the ACC Runner up in Georgia Tech and Colorado (a marginal team
> but better than playing a 1-AA cream puff).  They beat Florida, LSU,
> Georgia, 'Bama and South Carolina.  Give them some credit.  They didn't play
> the cake schedule Wisconsin had who didn't even have to play OSU this year
> (see above on Wisonsin's JOKE schedule.  War Eagle!
>
> However, Michigan only lost
> to OSU on the road by 3 points. Michigan's quality of loss far exceeds any
>
> other teams in the country.  In the end that should be the deciding
> factor,
> but it wasn't television ratings were.
>
> First of all, quality wins should matter more than quality losses (see
> Illinois argument above) and Florida had more quality wins, played more bowl
> eligible teams, more top 25 teams, played in a tougher conference.  You can
> say quality of loss is more important than quality of win and that is your
> right.  Lets just say most fans, coaches, and sportswriters are more likely
> to rank you based on wins than losses.  If losses mattered more than wins
> than USC should never have been in contention because a loss to a 6-4 Oregon
> State team is worse than a loss to OSU or Auburn.  The rest of the world
> (outside of Michigan fans, you and Jason Russell) rank wins higher than
> losses.  That's why Florida got in.  They played the statistically tougher
> schedule than Michigan, they played in a better conference than the Big Ten,
> they beat more bowl eligible teams than Michigan and there strongest
> argument is stronger than the Wolverine mantra of "At least we lost close!"
>
> The brain trust that does the polls
> did some polling of their own and found that people wanted to watch
> someone
> OTHER than Michigan play and that is what we got.
>
> Do you have proof of this?  The ESPN Sportsnation poll indicated 51%
> wanted an Ohio State-Michigan rematch.  Wouldn't this be "evidence" to the
> powers that be that TV ratings would be high for a rematch of one of the
> most watched college football games ever?  Please keep your conspiracy
> theories to the world of politics.  I don't see it here.  Also, these
> "powers that be"...are you referring to the coaches, to the AP, to the other
> polls which ALL have Florida rated higher?  Are they all a part of the
> conspiracy to keep Michigan down?
>
> Even though it is going
> to be blowout it won't matter cause people will watch until halftime.  And
>
> to top it off they place Michigan in the Rose Bowl against USC,
> functionally
> making Michigan play USC at home.
>
> Just in case you didn't know this, the Big 10 played the Pac 10 at the
> Rose Bowl for many years before the BCS came along.  Non unique.  Michigan
> and USC have met in the Rose Bowl in 1948, 1970, 1977, 1979, 1989, 1990 and
> 2004, but I'm sure it's always been part of the grand conspiracy
>
> Priceless! Do not email about the
> logistics of the Bowl system I understand them but it reminds me of the
> days
> when Big 8 teams had to go to Orange Bowl and play Miami for the national
> championship know how many of those games Miami lost? Zero.
>
> How about you know what you're talking about before you write.  1995
> Orange Bowl, last time Miami played a Big8/12 team
> Nebraska 24  -  Miami 17 - Osborne wins National Championship and Tommie
> Frasier wins Orange Bowl MVP.  get your facts straight.
>
> Ok I have
> homework but I will say I have never been a proponent of a playoff but
> after
> this jobbing I am leaning heavily in that direction.  Phil
>
> First thing you've said that made sense.  A playoff system would be best
> but in the status quo, you play the hand you are dealt and the BCS got it as
> right as it could this year.  GO GATORS!
>
> frank
>
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From mardigras23  Mon Dec  4 12:06:56 2006
From: mardigras23 (Aaron Kall)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:06:56 +0000
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
Message-ID: <BAY132-W196E737D5AAEC0D9F4FCD0BADF0@phx.gbl>



Let me preface this by saying even
though I work at Michigan, I?m
not a UM football fan.  I root for one
team, UK, and
will be rooting for them on December 29 when they play Clemson in the Music
City Bowl.



But, it?s December and I wanted to
chime in.



Top 5 Reasons UM is better than UF
and should have had a rematch vs. OSU for the national championship:



UM was
     unbeaten against all teams on its schedule ranked lower than number one.UM?s
     only loss was to undefeated and number one OSU by 3- UF?s only loss was by
     10 to a 2-loss Auburn team who was blown out at home by Georgia.UM?s
     out of conference schedule, which included at Notre Dame (BCS #11),
     Central Michigan (Going to a Bowl), and Vanderbilt (part of best
     conference in America), is obviously better than UF?s, which included Southern
     Miss, Central Florida, Western Carolina, and FSU.  No wonder UF has the most wins- their 12
     victories include wins against teams not in division I football.Vegas
     lines- In a hypothetical Michigan-Florida matchup, Las Vegas betting lines named UM a six-point favorite (http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061204/SPORTS08/612040383).
      In a UM-OSU matchup on a neutral
     field, the line couldn?t be OSU by more than 3, as UM only lost by 3 in Columbus.  First Vegas line
     has OSU favored over UF by 5.5 (http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5732208)UF and
     UM played one common opponent- Vanderbilt. 
     UM won by 20- UF won by 6.



 It is obvious that UF is playing OSU not because they are a
better team, but because ?the country? doesn?t want to see an all Big Ten
rematch and people switched their vote accordingly.  Does anyone really think UF would have jumped
UM if USC beat UCLA?  Even after losing
to OSU, UM was ranked ahead of UF for several weeks.   



Finally, the argument that you have to win your conference
championship to compete for the national championship is silly.  This year, it just so happens the best two
teams in the country are in the same conference- the Big Ten.  Should UNC or Duke not be allowed to play for
the basketball national championship because only one of them can win the ACC
championship?  Since the Big Ten doesn?t
even have a championship game, it further doesn?t make sense.  Every team
in the Big Ten doesn?t even play each other during the regular season- OSU didn?t play Wisconsin
this year, for example.



Urban Meyer obviously did a better job of lobbying for UF,
as Lloyd Carr refused to even make arguments supporting UM.  Even though Carr is old school, he should
have at least been willing to argue for his team until a different system is in
place.



Aaron


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From GatorDebate  Mon Dec  4 12:53:43 2006
From: GatorDebate (GatorDebate at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:53:43 EST
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
Message-ID: <c8a.22cd687.32a5c8b7@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/4/2006 1:07:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jbhdb8 at gmail.com writes:

Honestly,

I realy dont think Michigan got "jobbed" because Florida is an inferior  
number two.  The reason Michigan got "jobbed" is because after Florida  finished 
that schedule you love so much Michigan was rated higher than  them....then 
Florida barely beat a terrible FSU team.....and Michigan was  still rated higher 
than them....then Florida beat a now 3 loss Arkansas  team...and somehow they 
jumped above Michigan.  As Lloyd put it "I don't  think they would have moved 
ahead of us if USC had won their game," Carr said  of the Gators. "I don't 
know what the voters were thinking ? you'd have to ask  them ? but I don't think 
there's any question that if USC wins, we remain No.  3."  This point was 
proven last week when - Michigan stayed ahead of  Florida. 

I agree Josh that the system is flawed.  I also agree that there  aren't 
enough matchups between the "power" teams from each conference to  determine which 
conference is best/tougher.  I can say that the SEC is 10-6  over the past 
three seasons which is a solid win % relative to other  conferences.  Ultimately 
you are right that the system is too  subjective.

 
In other words, the problem isnt Florida or Florida's schedule or if  Florida 
is deserving...The problem is with a system that became a popularity  contest.

Agreed.

 
Another problem was with an opposing coach (Meyer) not just pumping his  own 
teams credentials but also denigrating the other team in the  press.

Disagree.  This is America, the land of politicing.  What is  Meyer supposed 
to do?  His team was rated behind Michigan so he had to  address Michigan 
specifically.  I think the Michigan fans that are getting  all riled up by Mitch 
Albom and others need to chill out.

 
Another problem was with the sweater vest abstaining (after already being  
caught letting his Assistant AD do the voting earlier in the year) seemingly  
because as a Big Ten coach he couldnt rank Florida and he didnt want to play  
Michigan again. 

I don't have a position on this.  I can see it both ways for  Tressel.  He 
really was in a no win situation.

 
Finally, the coaches poll became a north/south divide for the most part  
(with Big Ten votes hurting Michigan because Zook voted for Florida - shocker  - 
and Tressell abstained while all the SEC voters voted Florida 2).  

Coaches poll is illegit.  I've always thought that.  Grad  Assistants filling 
out polls at the 11th hour every week is specious at  best.

 
Now all that said:
 
Florida is a deserving team.  They have had a great year.   

Your arguments about schedule are inherently circular - basically your  
argument is "everybody knows the SEC is the toughest conference" and then  quoting 
back SEC wins and saying that means excellence.  Truth is this is  all 
subjective....I am not sure by how you are making your arguments that you  have seen 
many Michigan games this year.  I have seen a ton of Florida  games and do 
think they are a very talented squad especially on defense.   

I think the fact that 3 of the top 12 teams according to the BCS rankings  
shows that there is a lot of support for the SEC being a strong  conference.  
The Big 10 should really be the Big 2 because Wisconsin is  suspect (Out of 
conference games against Bowling Green, Western Illinois, San  Diego State and 
Buffalo is pathetic, plus they avoided playing Ohio State and  got to feast on 
the chum of the Big 10 (Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue,  Minnesota plus 
a down Iowa team and a down Penn State).  

 
Wouldnt it just be better to let us settle it on the field?  Thats  the one 
thing Lloyd and Meyer have pushed in concert.
 
Josh

100% agree.  Unfortunately that won't happen in the near future so  until the 
system changes, you need to make due with what you have and I think  the BCS 
got it as *right* as it could this year.
 
frank

 
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Debate Coach/Lecturer/Doctoral Student
University of  Florida
Center for Written and Oral Communication
413 Rolfs Hall
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Gainesville, FL 32611-2032
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From GatorDebate  Mon Dec  4 12:59:38 2006
From: GatorDebate (GatorDebate at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:59:38 EST
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
Message-ID: <cab.4ee9eb0.32a5ca1a@aol.com>

 
 
In a message dated 12/4/2006 1:55:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
GatorDebate at aol.com writes:

I agree Josh that the system is flawed.  I also agree that there  aren't 
enough matchups between the "power" teams from each conference to  determine which 
conference is best/tougher.  I can say that the SEC is  10-6 over the past 
three seasons which is a solid win % relative to other  conferences.  Ultimately 
you are right that the system is too  subjective.



I meant to say 10-6 in bowl games.  We also have some evidence  of strength 
between the SEC and other conferences by looking at some of the  bigger 
matchups this year:
 
Florida beat Florida State (don't write off the rivalry games, just ask  USC)
Georgia beat Georgia Tech
South Carolina beast Clemson
LSU beat Arizona (crushed them...the same team that beat the most overrated  
team in the Pac-10, Cal)
Tennessee beat Cal
 
Sure this isn't exactly the best versus the best but it is at least some  
evidence that the SEC can hold its own against teams from other BCS  conferences.
 
frank
 
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Debate Coach/Lecturer/Doctoral Student
University of  Florida
Center for Written and Oral Communication
413 Rolfs Hall
PO Box  112032
Gainesville, FL 32611-2032
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From jbhdb8  Mon Dec  4 13:19:59 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:19:59 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] ...or not salvation
In-Reply-To: <cab.4ee9eb0.32a5ca1a@aol.com>
References: <cab.4ee9eb0.32a5ca1a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612041119sf2fbe93lbbaef6bb206327d@mail.gmail.com>

The claim was never "is the SEC good" or "can the SEC compete."

Josh


On 12/4/06, GatorDebate at aol.com <GatorDebate at aol.com> wrote:
>
>   In a message dated 12/4/2006 1:55:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> GatorDebate at aol.com writes:
>
> I agree Josh that the system is flawed.  I also agree that there aren't
> enough matchups between the "power" teams from each conference to determine
> which conference is best/tougher.  I can say that the SEC is 10-6 over the
> past three seasons which is a solid win % relative to other conferences.
> Ultimately you are right that the system is too subjective.
>
> I meant to say 10-6 in bowl games.  We also have some evidence of strength
> between the SEC and other conferences by looking at some of the bigger
> matchups this year:
>
> Florida beat Florida State (don't write off the rivalry games, just ask
> USC)
> Georgia beat Georgia Tech
> South Carolina beast Clemson
> LSU beat Arizona (crushed them...the same team that beat the most
> overrated team in the Pac-10, Cal)
> Tennessee beat Cal
>
> Sure this isn't exactly the best versus the best but it is at least some
> evidence that the SEC can hold its own against teams from other BCS
> conferences.
>
> frank
>
> ***************************************************
>
> Frank P. Irizarry
> Debate Coach/Lecturer/Doctoral Student
> University of Florida
> Center for Written and Oral Communication
> 413 Rolfs Hall
> PO Box 112032
> Gainesville, FL 32611-2032
> Tel: 352-392-5421 (Office)
> Tel: 386-216-3193 (Cell)
> Fax: 352-392-5420
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From andreajterry  Mon Dec  4 13:40:04 2006
From: andreajterry (Andrea Terry)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:40:04 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] looking to hire myself out for the Cali swing
Message-ID: <887e11c60612041140y301add12lcc474c9cc57b3bf5@mail.gmail.com>

I will be down south during the swing without any of my debaters, and am
looking to judge some rounds if anyone has them available.  E-mail me if you
need some judging.

Thanks you!

-- 
Andrea Terry
Assistant Debate Coach
Lab Instructor, Coms 103
Communication Studies Department
California State University, Sacramento
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From matt_gerber27  Mon Dec  4 13:58:55 2006
From: matt_gerber27 (Matt Gerber)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:58:55 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Baylor High School Round Robin
Message-ID: <BAY125-F257056FEF20395D2F6FEF29CDF0@phx.gbl>

The Glenn R. Capp Debate Forum at Baylor University is pleased to announce 
the participants for the 2007 High School Round Robin. The tournament will 
take place January 20-21, 2007, and will feature 7 rounds of competition 
among a very strong field of teams. We look forward to continuing this 
tournament in the future, and perhaps expanding the size of the tournament 
to include 16 teams, who would be split into two 8-team pods for the 
competition. If you would like an invitation to the 2008 Round Robin, or if 
you want more information about the tournament or debate at Baylor, please 
contact Dr. Matt Gerber, matt_gerber at baylor.edu

The teams competing at the 2007 Round Robin are:

Lincoln East HS (NE) 		(Carly Persell & Ashley Morgan)
Hebron HS (TX)		(Shayan Makani & Cameron Vaziri)
St. Augustine Prep (CA) 	(Jonathan Tayag & partner TBA)
Winfield HS (KS)		(John Cook & Aaron Gill)
Westwood HS (TX)		(team TBA)
Bellaire HS (TX)		(Arnav Chakravarty & Aaron Ru)
Corsicana HS (TX)		(Nathan Ford & Tim McClure)
McNeil HS (TX)		(Darren Frazee & Sohin Gautam)

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From frigg11  Mon Dec  4 14:07:24 2006
From: frigg11 (Thomas O'Toole)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:07:24 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
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From carrolltondebate  Mon Dec  4 14:33:18 2006
From: carrolltondebate (Joseph Carver)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:33:18 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Legends vs. Legend Killers: Who's Next?
In-Reply-To: <f6ec14bb0612040943x3f01d51fub0e9c50536b87702@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1165247947.457445cbdb354@webmail.grandecom.net>
	<f6ec14bb0612040943x3f01d51fub0e9c50536b87702@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd6539040612041233t5ae64699ya9573fa6f8ac5a4f@mail.gmail.com>

I have to admit that my first blush on this Open Heart idea was dismissive-
too much nostalgia plus I have just barely stuck around long enough for
people to stop remembering how bad I was - but then it occured to me that
there are some teams I would pay to see so I thought I would jot them down.

1 Jason Petersen and Don Baker - the early version of Petersen and Kloster
with a hillbilly edge and a west coast fight streak. This team could would
be brutal

2 Greg Achten and Caleb Feeler- No way Greg would consent nor is it likely
that the State of Texas probation department would  either.

3 Thompson and Hopper - Old school SMS unafraid to read affirmatives without
advocates and in the running for greatest size disparity partnership. Plus
it was awesome when Hoppers girlfriend showed up and threatened to kill
everyone

4 Scott Harris and anyone - self explanatory....genius

5 Tim Mahoney and Matt Roskoski- First Kansas school to run to CEDA,
innovators of the 5 word piece of evidence

6 Glueboy and M Barreto - in the " It still moves" category, I would like to
see if Foy can make it happen

7 Thad Blank and Charles Olney- genius that will make you yawn yourself to
death

8 Jason Regnier and Joe Ramsey- Every good party HAS to have music, chair
dancing and a demand that we give the land back ( Kansas is a good state to
start with )

9 Peter Ferguson and Madison Laird- Dust of Jay Busse, LMU is back

10 Elizabeth and Will Repko - I have seen Biza get it done with ALOT  less.

These are just a few but now I am sorta in the spirit.



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From stevendamico  Mon Dec  4 14:48:44 2006
From: stevendamico (Steven D'Amico)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:48:44 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Legends vs. Legend Killers: Who's Next?
In-Reply-To: <dd6539040612041233t5ae64699ya9573fa6f8ac5a4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1165247947.457445cbdb354@webmail.grandecom.net>
	<f6ec14bb0612040943x3f01d51fub0e9c50536b87702@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd6539040612041233t5ae64699ya9573fa6f8ac5a4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f3ade5b10612041248u739f0c4cq6ef8673da238bf87@mail.gmail.com>

I'm still holding my breath for Ken Johnson and Mick Saunders--In honor of
Mark West.

I'm also personally calling out Shatskin if he still reads edebate.

D'Amico


On 12/4/06, Joseph Carver <carrolltondebate at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have to admit that my first blush on this Open Heart idea was
> dismissive- too much nostalgia plus I have just barely stuck around long
> enough for people to stop remembering how bad I was - but then it occured to
> me that there are some teams I would pay to see so I thought I would jot
> them down.
>
> 1 Jason Petersen and Don Baker - the early version of Petersen and Kloster
> with a hillbilly edge and a west coast fight streak. This team could would
> be brutal
>
> 2 Greg Achten and Caleb Feeler- No way Greg would consent nor is it likely
> that the State of Texas probation department would  either.
>
> 3 Thompson and Hopper - Old school SMS unafraid to read affirmatives
> without advocates and in the running for greatest size disparity
> partnership. Plus it was awesome when Hoppers girlfriend showed up and
> threatened to kill everyone
>
> 4 Scott Harris and anyone - self explanatory....genius
>
> 5 Tim Mahoney and Matt Roskoski- First Kansas school to run to CEDA,
> innovators of the 5 word piece of evidence
>
> 6 Glueboy and M Barreto - in the " It still moves" category, I would like
> to see if Foy can make it happen
>
> 7 Thad Blank and Charles Olney- genius that will make you yawn yourself to
> death
>
> 8 Jason Regnier and Joe Ramsey- Every good party HAS to have music, chair
> dancing and a demand that we give the land back ( Kansas is a good state to
> start with )
>
> 9 Peter Ferguson and Madison Laird- Dust of Jay Busse, LMU is back
>
> 10 Elizabeth and Will Repko - I have seen Biza get it done with ALOT
> less.
>
> These are just a few but now I am sorta in the spirit.
>
>
>
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> > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com
> > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
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> >
>
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From andreajterry  Mon Dec  4 15:15:04 2006
From: andreajterry (Andrea Terry)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:15:04 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Theresa Perry looking to hire out some rounds for USC,
	Fullerton
Message-ID: <887e11c60612041315n6cf6e110q971537fb9ba7603d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, all.

My fellow assistant coach, lovingly known as TP, is also looking judge as
many rounds as possible during the swing.  Let her know if you need her
amazing skills: theresaperry at gmail.com.

Thank you!

-- 
Andrea Terry
Assistant Debate Coach
Lab Instructor, Coms 103
Communication Studies Department
California State University, Sacramento
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From jbruschke  Mon Dec  4 15:33:57 2006
From: jbruschke (jbruschke at fullerton.edu)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:33:57 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Denver
Message-ID: <02be01c717eb$e7ec87a0$be8d9789@AD.FULLERTON.EDU>

Name:University of Denver Policy Debate Tournament
Starts:1/27/2006
Ends:1/28/2006
Hosted by: Denver
Contact: Brian Schrader
Address: 2894 S Ingalls Way Denver, CO 80227
Phone: 3036015120
On-line entry allowed: False
AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): False
Divisions Offered: 
 with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Semis
 with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified
Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com
This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament.
If so, you will be notified by a separate email.


From jbruschke  Mon Dec  4 15:57:59 2006
From: jbruschke (jbruschke at fullerton.edu)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:57:59 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Liberty University
Message-ID: <02d501c717ef$4337c720$be8d9789@AD.FULLERTON.EDU>

Name:ADA Championship Tournament
Starts:3/10/2007
Ends:3/12/2007
Hosted by: Liberty University
Contact: Michael Hall
Address: 1971 University Blvd., Lynchburg, VA 24502
Phone: 434-582-2080
On-line entry allowed: True
AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True
Divisions Offered: 
Open with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos
Junior Varsity with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos
Novice with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Octos
Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com
This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament.
If so, you will be notified by a separate email.


From bodonnel  Mon Dec  4 15:59:35 2006
From: bodonnel (O'Donnell, Brett M.)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:59:35 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] ADA National Championship Invite
Message-ID: <D1613AD8FC2D0148A04024ED419144878601D4@LUEMS01VS.University.liberty.edu>

Below is the invitation for the 21st ADA National Championship
Tournament.  Hope to see you in Lynchburg.

 

December 1, 2006

 

 

 

 

Dear Colleague,

 

On behalf of the Executive Committee of the American Debate Association,
Liberty University is pleased to invite you to participate in the
twenty-first annual American Debate Association National Championship
Tournament on March 10-12.  The tournament is sanctioned by CEDA and
will abide by CEDA's policy on sexual harassment.  Our goal is to host a
competently managed tournament with all three divisions of debate.  As
has been past practice, the tournament tab room will be run by
independent administration.   

 

This year's tournament will feature six preliminary rounds and an
appropriate number of elimination rounds of debate in three divisions.
The tournament will be conducted in accordance with the rules of the
American Debate Association.  A copy of these rules is available upon
request.  They will also be distributed in the pre-tournament booklet.
Tournament entries must be received by March 6, 2007.  Entries after
that date are subject to campus room availability. Please note that
hotel reservations must be made by February 23, 2007 to guarantee the
special rate.

 

We hope you will plan to enter teams in all three divisions. This year
we will use the Bruschke tournament entry system (see attached
information).  

 

Fees will be $40.00 per participant (debater, judge or coach). Observers
may attend for $50.00 per person (an observer is any person attending
the tournament that is not debating or judging at least two preliminary
rounds or officially providing service to the tournament).  Our
tournament hotel will provide breakfast free to all tournament
participants staying at the Holiday Inn Select. Additionally, we provide
lunch on Saturday and Sunday, a banquet Sunday night and extensive
snacks in our hospitality room. This means low food costs for your teams
attending the tournament.  The tournament also provides outstanding
awards, including sweepstakes awards for all three divisions, traveling
trophies for the top speaker in each division and first place teams and
team awards for all teams reaching the elimination rounds.

 

March is a beautiful time to be in Central Virginia.  This is the second
time we have been honored to host the ADA National Championship
Tournament. We hope that teams from across the debate community will
participate at our tournament. If you have any questions, please call
(434) 582-2080.

 

Hope to see you at Liberty University.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Brett O'Donnell       Michael Hall                           John
Katsulas    

Director of Debate   Tournament Host                    President, ADA

 

21st ADA Championship Tournament

March 10-12, 2007

Liberty University, Lynchburg, Virginia

 

 

Format:  The debate topic for the tournament will be the national policy
topic: 

 

Resolved: The United States Supreme Court should overrule one or more of
the following decisions: Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833
(1992); Ex parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942); U.S. v. Morrison, 529 U.S.
598 (2000); Milliken v. Bradley, 418 U.S. 717 (1974).

 

Time limits for speeches are 9-3-6 with ten minutes of preparation time.
There will be six preliminary rounds.  Rounds one and two will be
pre-set. Rounds three through six will be power matched. Three divisions
of debate will be offered: novice, junior varsity, and varsity.

 

Mutual preference judging, per the ADA rules, will be employed by the
tournament.

 

An appropriate number of elimination rounds will be offered in
accordance with the ADA rules and based on the size of the tournament.

 

Entries: Enter as many teams as you like in each of the three divisions.
If entries exceed room availability, latecomers may be restricted to two
teams per school per division of debate.

 

Eligibility for participation in the division is governed by the ADA
rules.

 

1.      ELIGIBILITY FOR DEBATE DIVISIONS-- Tournaments will define
eligibility for particular divisions of debate in the following ways:

A. Varsity Debate--open to all students;

 

B. Junior Varsity Debate

 

1.      Open only to students who are competing in their first two
academic years of intercollegiate debate beyond the novice level. 

2.      Progression during the year. Debaters competing in JV must
progress to open or varsity debate: 

a.       if they advance to the final round of three JV, open, or
varsity tournaments (no matter where) in which there are 20 or more
teams in the division, or 

b.      if they qualify to attend the National Debate Tournament

3.      ADA Nationals. The aforementioned progression requirement based
on advancing to the final rounds of three junior varsity, open, or
varsity tournaments does not apply to ADA Nationals and Round Robins. 

 

A.    Novice Debate--This division is designed for debaters who are
truly in their first year of competitive debate or who have so little
previous experience that they are functionally first-year debaters.

 

1.      Eligibility. This division is open to debaters who: 

a.       have no more than a combined total of 50 rounds of Lincoln
Douglas and policy debate prior to the current academic year of which no
more than 18 rounds can be policy debate.

b.      have competed in the novice division in a previous year but have
not advanced into the elimination rounds at two tournaments.

 

2.      Forced progression into the JV division in the middle of the
academic year does not count against the two years of JV eligibility ADA
Nationals. The aforementioned progression requirement based on advancing
to the final rounds of three novice, junior varsity, open, or varsity
tournaments does not apply to ADA Nationals or Round Robins for which
participants are invited based on the current year's record of
competition.

 

B.     Any program director seeking an exemption from the above
standards shall submit a request to the Vice President who, in
conjunction with the Executive Committee or subcommittee thereof, shall
rule upon it. Appeals, once granted, may be revoked based on tournament
performance.

 

2.      ADA Nationals. For the purposes of the ADA National tournament
only, a debate team is defined as the two-person team that begins the
first rounds of the tournament and who debate together throughout the
course of the tournament. Hybrids may debate together at the ADA
National Tournament, but they may not clear to elimination rounds.   If
one of the debaters of a team cannot debate in any given round, that
round will be forfeited.  Teams that forfeit rounds will be given
average speaker points, but are ineligible to clear to elimination
rounds if speaker points are the determining factor for their clearing.
Debaters who forfeit rounds are ineligible for speaker awards

 

Entry: Please enter the tournament by March 6, 2007 using the Bruschke
Entry System (www.debateresults.com or
http://commweb.fullerton.edu/jbruschke/web/index.aspx). After that date
e-mail or phone entries directly to Michael Hall (mphall at liberty.edu;
434-582-2080). Entries after this date are subject to campus room
availability. Enter early as our room space may be limited.

 

Judging: Each school should provide a qualified judge for each one or
two teams entered in the tournament. A judge will be responsible to
cover three preliminary rounds and at least one elimination round for
each team entered. All judges will be required to judge through the
quarter final elimination round or one round after your last team is
eliminated whichever occurs later.  Some hired judging may be available
at the rate of $25.00 per round.  ADA rules stipulate that all judges
must "1) have attained a baccalaureate degree or 2) have no remaining
intercollegiate debate eligibility and be enrolled in their last year of
undergraduate studies.  Tournament directors may make individual
exceptions to this rule in the case of persons who enrolled in their
last two semesters of undergraduate study and are no longer competing in
intercollegiate debate.  Undergraduate students are eligible to judge
for a maximum of two semesters.  Any person who judges at an ADA
tournament forfeits the right to compete in any ADA tournament
thereafter."

 

All judges should post their judge philosophy to the Bruschke website by
March 3, 2007.

 

Fees: Entry fees are $40 per participant, $50.00 for an observer.  Make
checks payable to the American Debate Association. Fees include
trophies, lunch on Saturday, our famous hospitality room, and the awards
banquet on Saturday for all team participants, coaches, and judges.
Extra banquet tickets may be purchased for $30 per person (for persons
attending the banquet only, such as parents).

 

Hotel Accommodations:   The Holiday Inn Select is this year's tournament
hotel. The Holiday Inn is located on 601 Main Street off of Interstate
29. They are providing a flat rate of $62.00 per night for up to four
people per room and include a continental breakfast for each member of
your team and coaching staff for each day of the tournament (Liberty
will not be providing a continental breakfast because of this offer from
the hotel) and newly renovated rooms. Call the hotel directly at (434)
528-2500 (Ask to speak to Timby Mukherjee, the Sales Manager if you
encounter difficulties in making reservations). Reservations must be
made by February 23, 2007. After that date you are on your own and the
rate will increase. Please mention you are attending the Liberty
University Debate Tournament. If you have trouble making reservations,
call and we will assist you in finding rooms.

 

Entry Deadlines:

 

Hotel: Room reservations must be made by February 23, 2007. The Holiday
Inn Select will release our block of rooms after that date.

 

Tournament:   Please enter the tournament by March 6, 2007. Be sure to
phone or e-mail late entries or any last minute changes. Teams dropped
after March 7, 2007 at noon will still be assessed the entry fee.  

 

Please enter the tournament via the Bruschke Tournament Entry System at
http://commweb.fullerton.edu/jbruschke/web/index.aspx. Direct entries
after March 6 or other questions to Michael Hall, Liberty University,
Department of Debate, 1971 University Blvd., Lynchburg, VA 24502-2269 or
phone (434) 582-2080.  Fax (434) 582-2113.  E-mail mphall at liberty.edu.

 

Transportation Assistance: If you are flying to the tournament, you
should make reservations for Lynchburg Regional Airport. Rental cars and
vans are available. For those of you requesting transportation
assistance, please fill out the transportation request form and return
it to Michael Hall by March 3, 2007.

 

Directions:

 

To Liberty University: Liberty University is located on Candler's
Mountain Road in the Southeast corner of Lynchburg, Virginia. Major
roads through Lynchburg going North and South include Interstate 29 and
State Highway 501. Divided Highway 460 serves Lynchburg from the East
and West. Signs mark campus exits on both Interstate 29 and 460.

 

To the Holiday Inn Select: Follow Interstate 29 to the Main Street
Downtown Exit.  Follow main street to the hotel on your left.

 

Tournament Registration: Registration will be held at the Holiday Inn
Select (follow signs) on Friday evening from 7:30 pm-10:00 pm.

 

Public Transportation: Public transportation systems serving the
Lynchburg area include USAir, Delta Airlines, Amtrak and Greyhound bus
line. Check with your local travel agency for schedules and rates.

 

Special Announcement: Alcoholic beverage consumption is not allowed on
the Liberty University campus. Smoking is only permitted outside the
academic buildings. Please do not smoke in the public lounges or
classrooms. Your adherence to the no smoking request will help to
guarantee a pleasant visit.

 

 

21st Annual ADA Championship Tournament

TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE

 


 


 

Friday, March 9

 

7:30 pm-10:00 pm         Registration (Holiday Inn Select)

 

Saturday, March 10


9:00 am           Round 1

 

Lunch

 

12:30 pm         Round 2

 

3:30 pm           Round 3

 

Sunday, March 11

 

8:30 am           Round 4

 

11:30 am         Round 5

 

Lunch

 

3:30 pm           Round 6

 

7:00 pm           Banquet (Holiday Inn Select)

 

Monday, March 12

 

8:00 am           Elims

 

Please note that no continental breakfasts are being provided at Liberty
as the hotel is providing a free continental breakfast buffet to each
tournament participant each morning of the tournament.  Coffee and tea
will be available at Liberty in the DeMoss Atrium.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21st Annual ADA Championship Tournament

March 10-12, 2007

Transportation Form

Liberty University, Lynchburg, Virginia

 

 

 

School__________________________________________________________________
__

 

________Yes. We need transportation from the Lynchburg Airport on
Friday.

 

________Yes. We need transportation from the Ramada Inn to Liberty
University.

 

________How many people require transportation?

 

 

 

Flight Information:

 

________Airline

 

________Flight Number

 

________Flight arrival time on Friday

 

________Flight departure time on Monday

 

________Flight departure time on Tuesday

 

 

 

Please return this form to Michael Hall before March 3, 2007 so that we
can make the proper

 

arrangements with our van rental company. Mail to Michael Hall, Liberty
University, 1971

 

University Blvd., Department of Debate, Lynchburg, VA 24502-2269.

 

Fax to 434-582-2113.

 

 

 

Brett M. O'Donnell

Director of Debate

Liberty University

1971 University Blvd.

Lynchburg, VA 24502

434-582-2080

 

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From mharris02  Mon Dec  4 16:06:00 2006
From: mharris02 (Martin Harris)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:06:00 -0600
Subject: [eDebate]  Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
Message-ID: <451372279EE24E4992ED27B99AC55773D7C5E5@EXVS1.drury.edu>

>I have heard rumors about the Open Heart, but there is still no
official 
>posting/invite from the Jayhawks....is this going to happen? Certain
people
>need to know asap so they can start doing speed drills (although I 
>personally never stopped...).

 

 

Have not seen an official invite. They may still be waiting on NDT
district dates, but this was posted during Wake. 

http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/2006-November/069019.html

 

I would say that it means it is happening.

 

Martin Harris
Computer and Graphics Support Specialist 
Hammons School of Architecture, Drury University 
Office Phone: (417) 873-7497

 

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From delliott  Mon Dec  4 16:36:39 2006
From: delliott (Darren Elliott)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:36:39 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Legends vs. Legend Killers: Who's Next?
Message-ID: <s5744e9f.069@netware.kckcc.edu>

Just because you started debating in 1992 when I did and are STILL
debating does not mean you have the upper hand.  I know how fast you
are.  As Flair himself would say, to BE THE MAN, YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE
MAN!   WHOOOOOOOOOO

chief

>>> <FijiPapabear at aol.com> 12/04/06 8:18 AM >>>
Im not going to be a legend killer, if I go it would be just to be a
chief  
killer.  



From iriamenzo  Mon Dec  4 16:54:05 2006
From: iriamenzo (Phillip Samuels)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:54:05 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
Message-ID: <BAY125-F289AB0E0A3826F8F662423AFDF0@phx.gbl>

Hello all,
The open heart is definatly happening and I will post the invite this 
week--we are in the midst of a busy time with out semester ending--but you 
have my word the invitation will be up by friday.  And Harris already told 
me that he is going to debate at the open heart.--Have a good week Phil

>From: "Martin Harris" <mharris02 at drury.edu>
>To: <edebate at www.ndtceda.com>
>Subject: [eDebate]  Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:06:00 -0600
>
> >I have heard rumors about the Open Heart, but there is still no
>official
> >posting/invite from the Jayhawks....is this going to happen? Certain
>people
> >need to know asap so they can start doing speed drills (although I
> >personally never stopped...).
>
>
>
>
>
>Have not seen an official invite. They may still be waiting on NDT
>district dates, but this was posted during Wake.
>
>http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/2006-November/069019.html
>
>
>
>I would say that it means it is happening.
>
>
>
>Martin Harris
>Computer and Graphics Support Specialist
>Hammons School of Architecture, Drury University
>Office Phone: (417) 873-7497
>
>
>


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From jct44  Mon Dec  4 17:08:13 2006
From: jct44 (James C Thomas)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:08:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [eDebate] Heart pair-ups
Message-ID: <23584.66.32.214.93.1165273693.squirrel@webmail.cornell.edu>

My offer to Aaron Hardy to team up at the Heart still stands.





From stannardmatt  Mon Dec  4 17:31:58 2006
From: stannardmatt (matt stannard)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:31:58 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-F289AB0E0A3826F8F662423AFDF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F25D17C6ADA4ACBB866DDF2D2DF0@phx.gbl>

Dream pairings for the Heart:

Jeff LaFave and Tony Justman
Cindy Leiferman and Lenny Gail
Todd Graham and Joe Carver

mjs


>From: "Phillip Samuels" <iriamenzo at hotmail.com>
>To: mharris02 at drury.edu, edebate at www.ndtceda.com
>Subject: Re: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
>Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:54:05 -0600
>
>Hello all,
>The open heart is definatly happening and I will post the invite this
>week--we are in the midst of a busy time with out semester ending--but you
>have my word the invitation will be up by friday.  And Harris already told
>me that he is going to debate at the open heart.--Have a good week Phil
>
> >From: "Martin Harris" <mharris02 at drury.edu>
> >To: <edebate at www.ndtceda.com>
> >Subject: [eDebate]  Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
> >Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 16:06:00 -0600
> >
> > >I have heard rumors about the Open Heart, but there is still no
> >official
> > >posting/invite from the Jayhawks....is this going to happen? Certain
> >people
> > >need to know asap so they can start doing speed drills (although I
> > >personally never stopped...).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Have not seen an official invite. They may still be waiting on NDT
> >district dates, but this was posted during Wake.
> >
> >http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/2006-November/069019.html
> >
> >
> >
> >I would say that it means it is happening.
> >
> >
> >
> >Martin Harris
> >Computer and Graphics Support Specialist
> >Hammons School of Architecture, Drury University
> >Office Phone: (417) 873-7497
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From jbhdb8  Mon Dec  4 17:59:44 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:59:44 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Legends vs. Legend Killers: Who's Next?
In-Reply-To: <dd6539040612041233t5ae64699ya9573fa6f8ac5a4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1165247947.457445cbdb354@webmail.grandecom.net>
	<f6ec14bb0612040943x3f01d51fub0e9c50536b87702@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd6539040612041233t5ae64699ya9573fa6f8ac5a4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612041559o1fbb1f6fs253a7978fe16da45@mail.gmail.com>

I actually judged a debate with Repko and Repko in it :)

Josh


On 12/4/06, Joseph Carver <carrolltondebate at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have to admit that my first blush on this Open Heart idea was
> dismissive- too much nostalgia plus I have just barely stuck around long
> enough for people to stop remembering how bad I was - but then it occured to
> me that there are some teams I would pay to see so I thought I would jot
> them down.
>
> 1 Jason Petersen and Don Baker - the early version of Petersen and Kloster
> with a hillbilly edge and a west coast fight streak. This team could would
> be brutal
>
> 2 Greg Achten and Caleb Feeler- No way Greg would consent nor is it likely
> that the State of Texas probation department would  either.
>
> 3 Thompson and Hopper - Old school SMS unafraid to read affirmatives
> without advocates and in the running for greatest size disparity
> partnership. Plus it was awesome when Hoppers girlfriend showed up and
> threatened to kill everyone
>
> 4 Scott Harris and anyone - self explanatory....genius
>
> 5 Tim Mahoney and Matt Roskoski- First Kansas school to run to CEDA,
> innovators of the 5 word piece of evidence
>
> 6 Glueboy and M Barreto - in the " It still moves" category, I would like
> to see if Foy can make it happen
>
> 7 Thad Blank and Charles Olney- genius that will make you yawn yourself to
> death
>
> 8 Jason Regnier and Joe Ramsey- Every good party HAS to have music, chair
> dancing and a demand that we give the land back ( Kansas is a good state to
> start with )
>
> 9 Peter Ferguson and Madison Laird- Dust of Jay Busse, LMU is back
>
> 10 Elizabeth and Will Repko - I have seen Biza get it done with ALOT
> less.
>
> These are just a few but now I am sorta in the spirit.
>
>
>
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> > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
> >
> >
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From joepatrice  Mon Dec  4 18:33:16 2006
From: joepatrice (Joe Patrice)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 19:33:16 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] 1st VP Report
Message-ID: <f7194f2d0612041633sd24e616sa799bac588760611@mail.gmail.com>

CEDA 1st VP Report ? NCA 2006

I am sorry for the delay in posting my report.  At NCA the 1st VP had two
primary action items:

I.    CEDA Summer Meeting ? After a diverse group of schools expressed
preliminary interest, the deadline for bid submissions came and passed, and
I am happy to announce that the CEDA Summer Meeting (and the attendant CEDA
Topic Meeting) will take place at James Madison University.  Room rates are
approximately $50/night, meeting room capacity starts at 25/room, but if
there is greater interest, JMU can secure larger rooms.  Most importantly,
the meeting will provide unlimited wireless connections and free webcasting.

The meeting will take place May 19-23.  Tentatively, the CEDA Business
Meeting will run from May 19-21 and the Topic Meeting will run from May
21-23.

II.     CEDA Nationals 2008 ? We have a tentative bid being put together by
Georgia State.  If a program has an interest in submitting a bid to host
CEDA Nats regardless of the year, please submit a bid.  A sample bid is
provided on the website.

Personal Activities ? In addition to my 1st VP duties I have interacted on
some areas of general CEDA Business that are worth reporting

A.    Backfile Project ? I have checked in on the progress of the backfile
project we authorized over the summer.  The project seems stalled for two
reasons: a lack of backfile submissions and a lack of a defined program for
seeking relevant submissions.  Regarding the latter, our coordinator is
preparing a list of files he feels would be most relevant to assisting new
programs.  Once this process is done, I would suggest more publicity for
this program to get more submissions.

B.    PR Committee ? The PR Committee has taken a number of steps toward the
goal of promoting CEDA.  There is an official CEDA logo and opportunities
for its use abound.  My observation of the process is that the committee
needs to integrate with the website, journal, awards, etc. using a
consistent logo scheme.  I have been told that the PR Committee is working
right now to get together a draft brochure for distribution to prospective
future programs.
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From jbhdb8  Mon Dec  4 18:40:50 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 19:40:50 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
In-Reply-To: <f6ec14bb0612041558h3add33ddm910c6b92c482eaf2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY132-F19772DC0555599865F1086B2DF0@phx.gbl>
	<f6ec14bb0612041558h3add33ddm910c6b92c482eaf2@mail.gmail.com>
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Bill Smelko asked me to post this for him:


The Legends Debates That Anyone Would Pay To See



The First Match on the Pay Per View Debate Card would be:



The Real Clash of Civilizations: Anything Else Is Just A Skirmish of Styles.



The Participants:

Bill Southworth (San Fernando Valley State NDT 3rd Speaker) &

Roger Solt (Wake Forest NDT Elim Round Participant)



vs.



bill shanahan (nuff said) &

Dr. Ede Warner (Passion Personified)



Heading straight to Mutual Pref Number 225, the judge for the round is:  David
Zarefsky



The HYPE:  Please don't be late for this one.  Just imagining this round is
worth the price of the entire Pay Per View Card!





Second Match-Up on the Pay Per View Debate Card:

The "Who Gets First Speaker In This Round?" Debate.



The Participants:

Tom Rollins (Georgetown NDT Top Speaker 75, 78 (2nd in '76) &

Paul Skiermont (KY NDT Top Speaker 94-95)



vs.



Lyn Robins (Baylor NDT Top Speaker 86-87) &

Michael Gottlieb (NDT Top Speaker 99-00, a little young for the legend's
category , but he might be able to compete nonetheless)



Obvious Choice For Judge of This Round:  Robert Feldhake (Augustana, NDT Top
Speaker 76). He was so good they named the TROPHY after him)



The HYPE:  Legends, Legends . . . I'll give you REAL LEGENDS.  These four
must have had SOMETHING going for them so pay to see what it was that they
had.















Third Debate On The Card:

The "Who Needs Evidence Tubs For This Topic?" Debate.



The Participants:

Rebecca Tushnet (Harvard NDT Top 5 Speaker, Multiple NDT Elim Round
Participant)  & Lawrence Tribe (Harvard NDT 2nd Speaker and NDT Champion
1961)



vs.



Jess Choper (Wilkes College NDT 2X Elim Round Participant & NDT 57 3rdSpeaker) &

Erwin Chemerinski (Northwestern NDT 3X Participant, Multiple Top 10 Speaker)



Judges:  The United States Supreme Court (all 9 members) . . . maybe they
will learn something . . . .



The HYPE:  Bring a tape recorder to this round.  Every word these four say
will be useful at the NDT this year.  We can publish the transcript on
edebate (wait a minute, that's a different thread entirely) and . . . on
second thought,

PAY TO WATCH THIS ROUND, it will be cheaper than buying Harvard, Dartmouth,
Berkeley or Northwestern backfiles.







A Brief Intermission then takes place as the pay per view audience is
treated to a most entertaining discussion of topicality by two former debate
legends who assisted in taking the interpretation debate to new levels of
policy importance.



David Bois (Redlands 64-65, Counsel To The President, Senate Impeachment
Hearings) & Mark Fabiani (Redlands 76-79, NDT Top Speaker, 2 Time NDT
semi-finalist, Special White House Counsel) will explain just how meaningful
it is to understand definitional terminology with some degree of precision
as they discuss:



"Using Topicality To Prevent A President From Getting Impeached &
Convicted;" or, "It All Depends On What Your Definition Of IS, IS!"



After Intermission, the Pay Per View Card Continues With a Debate That Will
Necessarily Involve The Application Of The Politics Disadvantage.



The Participants:

Adrienne Brovero (Wake Multiple NDT Elim Participant & Top 5 Speaker) &

Bob Shrum (Georgetown 2X NDT Participant and NDT Top Speaker)



vs.



Arlen Specter (U Penn NDT Quarters 50-51 and NDT 13th & 6th Speaker) &

William Bennet (Denver NDT 8th Speaker 67).



Judge:  The American People At The Ballot Box.



The HYPE:

Brovero will explain how politics is SUPPOSED to work,

Shrum will describe how it DOES NOT ever work . . . for him, anyway

Bennet will give an assessment of how politics must have been meant to work

Specter will try to hold up the proceedings waiting for the next qualified
Supreme Court nominee to emerge, and failing that for the next two years,
will hold his breath like many, wondering if the Politics DA really does
link to Supreme Court decision-making.





The Final Debate Scheduled For Pay Per View Is Entitled:

"Settling The Final Legend's Score;" or, Which Will Be The First Team Of
Legends To Win Their Third?"



For the Main Event, the Heart Tournament Committee will briefly change the
name of the Tournament to "The NDT."  Two Rounds will be held to get these
Legends to the Final, Final Main Event:



In one semi-final,



Holt Spicer & James Q. Wilson  (Redlands NDT 50, Champs 51 and 52 & Top
Speaker/Second Speaker & Second Speaker/Top Speaker)  will debate



Michael Gottlieb & Ryan Sparacino (Northwestern NDT Champs 98-99, Top, Top,
Top and Second Speaker NDT)



In the other semi-final,



William Welsh & Richard Kirshberg (Northwestern NDT Champs 58-59) will
debate



Sean McCaffity & Jody Terry (Northwestern NDT Champs 94-95)





The HYPE:  You want LEGENDS, here's your legends.

The Betting Line and Most Probable Post-Match Story Line On This One:



Taking the train across country, like in the old days of legend, Spicer &
Wilson compile two tin boxes of file cards, rather than just one, and, using
some of the cards from both tin boxes, while effectively ignoring the
suggestions from the combined worker bee armies [who were brought along just
to look impressive in order to combat the consolidated evil legions of the
Northwestern juggernaut anticipated to be in attendance] consisting of past
(1) Southwest Missouri State debaters loyal to Professor Spicer (I know,
even the name has changed but Professor Spicer built a monster of a Debate
Program at SMS) &

(2) Redlands debaters (who got to hear Wilson & Spicer debate Rubenstein &
Cole at the Redlands 75th Anniversary),



Spicer & Wilson emerged from two hard-fought rounds, as Ric Flair did, with
the LEGENDS TITLE IN HAND, for it is written when LEGENDS are in the field
that old age and treachery will always defeat youth, talent and skill.





As an added attraction, a STEEL CAGE DEBATE will be held following Spicer
and Holt's victories.  The Steel Cage Match features a 70's contest with



BROWN taking on GEORGETOWN



Hotep X and Tuna Snider: (You DO NOT WANT TO DEBATE THIS TEAM)



will debate



Dallas Perkins & Howard Beales:  (You LIVE IN FEAR, FEAR, FEAR THAT THIS
TEAM WILL BE IN YOUR BRACKET, IN YOUR HOTEL, IN YOUR FUTURE)





And, just so EVERYONE can get their money's worth, after the blood and guts
are peeled off the cage doors, and the ring is wiped clean or bodily fluids,




A BATTLE ROYALE will close out the evening:  Everyone in attendance will be
invited down for just one more round, and the joy of listening to any number
of LEGENDS, from the 40's, 50's, 60's 70's 80's, 90's and graduated classes
of the new millenium, just once more, will make the contest a spectacular
pay per view event.



If any of you ever get the chance, and are interested, ask Professors
Zigemuller, Patterson, Southworth, or Strange about how amazing it would be
for anyone to hear [from the 70's] Stuart Singer, Barret McInerney, Don
Hornstein, Joe Loveland, Joe McGuire, Elliot Minceberg, Mary Grace Diehl,
Gil Skillman, Dennis Winston, Mike Fernandez, Robin Rowland, Frank Cross,
David Kent, or Linda Listrom (among lots and lots of others) again.



Same, it seems for the 80's and 90's.  Many people, would pay to hear Steve
Mancuso, Alan Coverstone, Gloria Cabada, Lenny Gale, Marc Rubenstein, or any
of the many greats from Iowa, Michigan, Wake, Louisville, Dartmouth and
Emory, debate again.



The idea of the LEGENDS TOURNAMENT has a real special appeal, and hopefully
a whole LOT of old, but not quite dead yet people will give it a try. If
not, current those of you who read this and who have eligibility remaining,
each should just enjoy the years/tournaments/rounds you may have left in
your own careers. Once it is over, you become . . . at best a legend, and as
the decades and half-centuries pass, you sometimes just become forgotten,
until the next legends tournament rolls around on pay per view.



Josh
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From wsu.cook  Mon Dec  4 19:02:19 2006
From: wsu.cook (Matthew Cook)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 19:02:19 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Don't let crow's feet scare you away...
Message-ID: <e79f38ae0612041702k383be39du2eca6790d7f35cbf@mail.gmail.com>

Someone more talented and more eligible than me had better step up with a
hybrid team to put these dinosaurs in their place. I'd just like to put
these "boy, when i was a debater, you'd 'a been lucky to win two rounds at
this tournament" type comments to rest after a relatively successful
tournament. I also don't like old people that much. No, i don't know what
channel Matloc is on and, no, I can't carry your tubs for you.

Take the Jarman approach, foggies, and keep your legacy. A 1968 NDT top
speaker award isn't nearly as impressive when you lose MoState KO.

Cook
I support Wichita State Debate
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From delliott  Mon Dec  4 20:07:02 2006
From: delliott (Darren Elliott)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:07:02 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Don't let crow's feet scare you away...
Message-ID: <s5748004.056@netware.kckcc.edu>

Are you saying a loss to KO calls into the question the validity of an
NDT Top Speaker Award?  I mean that's harsh.  Those guys are pretty ok. 
: )

chief

>>> "Matthew Cook" <wsu.cook at gmail.com> 12/04/06 7:02 PM >>>
Someone more talented and more eligible than me had better step up with
a
hybrid team to put these dinosaurs in their place. I'd just like to put
these "boy, when i was a debater, you'd 'a been lucky to win two rounds
at
this tournament" type comments to rest after a relatively successful
tournament. I also don't like old people that much. No, i don't know
what
channel Matloc is on and, no, I can't carry your tubs for you.

Take the Jarman approach, foggies, and keep your legacy. A 1968 NDT top
speaker award isn't nearly as impressive when you lose MoState KO.

Cook
I support Wichita State Debate



From delliott  Mon Dec  4 21:29:06 2006
From: delliott (Darren Elliott)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:29:06 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Research at CEDA Nationals
Message-ID: <s5749335.007@netware.kckcc.edu>

One of my duties as 2nd VP is to oversee and help with any research
projects to be conducted through CEDA, especially at CEDA Nationals.  

If you are interested in conducting research at CEDA Nationals in Norman
in March please contact me as soon as you can.  We will need to jump
through the necessary hoops and get the research approved.  Occasionally
in the past some people have done research on their own.  At NCA the
CEDA EC indicated they would prefer all research come through the
appropriate research channels.  

CEDA Nationals provides a great opportunity in terms of access to
programs, debaters, and coaches from all areas of the country.  Such
research could easily be turned into scholarly articles, conference
papers and/or panels, etc.  Depending on your institution it could also
serve as a way for you to get them to pay for your travel to and from
the tournament if you are no longer "affiliated" with a program.

If I can be of any assistance let me know.

chief

Darren Elliott
Director of Debate--KCKCC
CEDA 2nd VP


From jakethompsondebate  Mon Dec  4 22:10:56 2006
From: jakethompsondebate (jacob thompson)
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:10:56 +0000
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-F1852A2C2EFEB4BF684A5699CDF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY107-F9AB7A3D8A0BAD46D982B6C5DE0@phx.gbl>

There is another tradition at the heart... the grudge match pairing?  Will 
this still be an option even with the open heart legends tournament?  If it 
is an option, team bad cop/worse cop is officially calling out Cate 
Palczewski and Karla Leeper.

Gerber-- Which one of us gets to be worse cop?

Jake Thompson






>From: "Matt Gerber" <matt_gerber27 at hotmail.com>
>To: edebate at ndtceda.com
>Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
>Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:23:55 -0600
>
>I have heard rumors about the Open Heart, but there is still no official
>posting/invite from the Jayhawks....is this going to happen? Certain people
>need to know asap so they can start doing speed drills (although I
>personally never stopped...).
>
>I am not trying to call anyone out here, but here are some of the
>"tentative" Heart partner pairings that I have heard about through the
>proverbial Grapevine. Not sure any of these folks have reached "legend"
>status yet, maybe Zive...
>
>Scott Herndon & David Magariel (hopefully one of them got faster...)
>
>Hajir Ardibili & Josh Zive (actually a scary team...two former debate stars
>turned attorneys, on a legal topic? Yikes.)
>
>Terri Easley & Halli Tripe (can you say Topicality?)
>
>Jeff Roberts & Obie Lansford (can you say Baudrillard?)
>
>Mike Eber & Scott Harris (actually I haven't heard this, but wouldn't it be
>sweet?)
>
>Myself & Jake Thompson (bad cop + worse cop =s SLOW cop)
>
>If you know of other potential partner pairings for the Heart, post 'em to
>edebate, let's get this thing going....even if you have heard it in the
>context of "smack talk" like I heard from Leeper the other day...that's
>right, she has made the claim that her and Palczewski could really mop up 
>if
>this thing happens.
>
>~Gerber
>
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From jakethompsondebate  Mon Dec  4 22:11:30 2006
From: jakethompsondebate (jacob thompson)
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:11:30 +0000
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-F1852A2C2EFEB4BF684A5699CDF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY107-F26E8CF6D25859167FA7688C5DE0@phx.gbl>

There is another tradition at the heart... the "grudge match" pairing.

Will this still be an option even with the open heart legends tournament?  
If it is an option this year, team bad cop/worse cop is officially calling 
out Cate Palczewski and Karla Leeper.

Gerber-- Which one of us gets to be worse cop?

Jake Thompson






>From: "Matt Gerber" <matt_gerber27 at hotmail.com>
>To: edebate at ndtceda.com
>Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
>Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:23:55 -0600
>
>I have heard rumors about the Open Heart, but there is still no official
>posting/invite from the Jayhawks....is this going to happen? Certain people
>need to know asap so they can start doing speed drills (although I
>personally never stopped...).
>
>I am not trying to call anyone out here, but here are some of the
>"tentative" Heart partner pairings that I have heard about through the
>proverbial Grapevine. Not sure any of these folks have reached "legend"
>status yet, maybe Zive...
>
>Scott Herndon & David Magariel (hopefully one of them got faster...)
>
>Hajir Ardibili & Josh Zive (actually a scary team...two former debate stars
>turned attorneys, on a legal topic? Yikes.)
>
>Terri Easley & Halli Tripe (can you say Topicality?)
>
>Jeff Roberts & Obie Lansford (can you say Baudrillard?)
>
>Mike Eber & Scott Harris (actually I haven't heard this, but wouldn't it be
>sweet?)
>
>Myself & Jake Thompson (bad cop + worse cop =s SLOW cop)
>
>If you know of other potential partner pairings for the Heart, post 'em to
>edebate, let's get this thing going....even if you have heard it in the
>context of "smack talk" like I heard from Leeper the other day...that's
>right, she has made the claim that her and Palczewski could really mop up 
>if
>this thing happens.
>
>~Gerber
>
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From alfred.snider  Tue Dec  5 07:46:09 2006
From: alfred.snider (Alfred Snider)
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:46:09 +0100
Subject: [eDebate] Vermont tounament hotel details
Message-ID: <45757821.2050402@uvm.edu>

Here are the hotel details. Best Western, 1076 Williston Rd., South 
Burlington 802-863-1125.

Additional rooms can be had either at the Best Western or the other 
hotels listed in the invitation.

Please note the smoking issues and email me with questions.

Tuna

GROUP#: 404298
ARRIVAL DATE: January 26, 2007
DEPARTURE DATE: January 28, 2007

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*We do not allow more than 5 people in one room. The above rooms are 
non-smoking rooms unless stated. If you require smoking rooms, please 
notify us as a $100.00 fee will be assessed for smoking in a designated 
non-smoking room.
Please note that these rates do not include a 9 percent Vermont tax. ** 
The above room rates include continental breakfast

ROLL-A-WAY COTS:
Should you require a roll-a-way cot, the charge is $5.00 per cot, per 
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name will be open to the public.  Any additional reservations will be 
taken on a space available basis ONLY.
         DATE OF ARRIVAL:
All rooms must be reserved with a major credit card number, corporate 
account, or a deposit of the first night's rent including tax, paid in 
advance.
Please note that rooms reserved on a guaranteed basis will be held all 
evening.  A "no-show" will incur the room cost of that night.  There 
will be no charge for cancellations received 48 hours prior to day of 
arrival.

Our check in time is anytime after 3 P.M. daily and our check out time 
is 11 A.M.  Late check outs must be pre-arranged and approved by the 
front desk at least 24 hours in advance. Please see the front desk for 
availability in regards to extending your length of stay.



-- 
Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna
Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics
University of Vermont
Huber House, 475 Main Street, UVM, Burlington, VT 05405 USA
Global Debate Blog http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/
Debate Training site http://debate.uvm.edu
World Debate Institute http://debate.uvm.edu/wdi/
GATEWAY TO ALL THINGS DEBATE http://debateoneworld.org
802-656-0097 office telephone
802-656-4275 office fax

-- 
Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna
Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics
University of Vermont
Huber House, 475 Main Street, UVM, Burlington, VT 05405 USA
Global Debate Blog http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/
Debate Training site http://debate.uvm.edu
World Debate Institute http://debate.uvm.edu/wdi/
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From anabaptist  Tue Dec  5 09:27:32 2006
From: anabaptist (Donald Bryson)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 9:27:32 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] summer work
Message-ID: <20061205152732.SIPF23383.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net>

I'm writing to see if their is any summer camp work to be had.  I'll be getting married in June, so that month is out, but I am available in the latter part of June and the rest of the summer.

If anyone needs camp work, please backchannel me.  


Thanks,
Donald Bryson



From anabaptist  Tue Dec  5 09:36:43 2006
From: anabaptist (Donald Bryson)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 9:36:43 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Don't let crow's feet scare you away...
Message-ID: <20061205153643.TACY23383.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@webmail-relay.alltel.net>

I will not be able to attend the Heart myself, but here are a few teams I'd like to see.

Tejinder Singh and Scott Phillips

Northwester BM (Branson and Morales)

Whit Whitmore and James Herndon (c'mon, they were only together for one tournament)

Paul Mabrey and Mick Souders (it's just funny to think about)

James Roland and Mike Davis

bill shanahan and Bill Southworth

Tuna Snider and The Zomp


Randomness that I find amusing.

Donald Bryson



From debate.gsu  Tue Dec  5 11:25:03 2006
From: debate.gsu (Dr. Joe Bellon)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:25:03 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart? Legends/Legend Killers...
In-Reply-To: <f6ec14bb0612041640i7d094196xc45570110d048491@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY132-F19772DC0555599865F1086B2DF0@phx.gbl>
	<f6ec14bb0612041558h3add33ddm910c6b92c482eaf2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f6ec14bb0612041640i7d094196xc45570110d048491@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e06af37d0612050925u448d9f44q1be77d3b761b0696@mail.gmail.com>

I have it on good authority that Melissa Wade will be debating maverick at
the Heart. As a result of her deeply held spiritual beliefs, Melissa will
refuse to debate on the negative. She only believes in affirmation. In spite
of this, she will go 8-0 and not lose a ballot in the elims. Every time you
make an argument or read a card, she will smile, shed a little tear, and
talk about how proud she is of you because "you've grown so much." In the
face of this unstoppable assault, you will break down and cry, confessing
your sins and begging her to allow you to do more (unpaid) UDL work so you
can regain god's grace.

-Joe

On 12/4/06, Josh Hoe <jbhdb8 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bill Smelko asked me to post this for him:
>
>
> The Legends Debates That Anyone Would Pay To See
>
>
>
> The First Match on the Pay Per View Debate Card would be:
>
>
>
> The Real Clash of Civilizations: Anything Else Is Just A Skirmish of
> Styles.
>
>
>
> The Participants:
>
> Bill Southworth (San Fernando Valley State NDT 3rd Speaker) &
>
> Roger Solt (Wake Forest NDT Elim Round Participant)
>
>
>
> vs.
>
>
>
> bill shanahan (nuff said) &
>
> Dr. Ede Warner (Passion Personified)
>
>
>
> Heading straight to Mutual Pref Number 225, the judge for the round is:  David
> Zarefsky
>
>
>
> The HYPE:  Please don't be late for this one.  Just imagining this round
> is worth the price of the entire Pay Per View Card!
>
>
>
>
>
> Second Match-Up on the Pay Per View Debate Card:
>
> The "Who Gets First Speaker In This Round?" Debate.
>
>
>
> The Participants:
>
> Tom Rollins (Georgetown NDT Top Speaker 75, 78 (2nd in '76) &
>
> Paul Skiermont (KY NDT Top Speaker 94-95)
>
>
>
> vs.
>
>
>
> Lyn Robins (Baylor NDT Top Speaker 86-87) &
>
> Michael Gottlieb (NDT Top Speaker 99-00, a little young for the legend's
> category , but he might be able to compete nonetheless)
>
>
>
> Obvious Choice For Judge of This Round:  Robert Feldhake (Augustana, NDT
> Top Speaker 76). He was so good they named the TROPHY after him)
>
>
>
> The HYPE:  Legends, Legends . . . I'll give you REAL LEGENDS.  These four
> must have had SOMETHING going for them so pay to see what it was that they
> had.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Third Debate On The Card:
>
> The "Who Needs Evidence Tubs For This Topic?" Debate.
>
>
>
> The Participants:
>
> Rebecca Tushnet (Harvard NDT Top 5 Speaker, Multiple NDT Elim Round
> Participant)  & Lawrence Tribe (Harvard NDT 2 nd Speaker and NDT Champion
> 1961)
>
>
>
> vs.
>
>
>
> Jess Choper (Wilkes College NDT 2X Elim Round Participant & NDT 57 3rdSpeaker) &
>
> Erwin Chemerinski (Northwestern NDT 3X Participant, Multiple Top 10
> Speaker)
>
>
>
> Judges:  The United States Supreme Court (all 9 members) . . . maybe they
> will learn something . . . .
>
>
>
> The HYPE:  Bring a tape recorder to this round.  Every word these four say
> will be useful at the NDT this year.   We can publish the transcript on
> edebate (wait a minute, that's a different thread entirely) and . . . on
> second thought,
>
> PAY TO WATCH THIS ROUND, it will be cheaper than buying Harvard,
> Dartmouth, Berkeley or Northwestern backfiles.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A Brief Intermission then takes place as the pay per view audience is
> treated to a most entertaining discussion of topicality by two former debate
> legends who assisted in taking the interpretation debate to new levels of
> policy importance.
>
>
>
> David Bois (Redlands 64-65, Counsel To The President, Senate Impeachment
> Hearings) & Mark Fabiani (Redlands 76-79, NDT Top Speaker, 2 Time NDT
> semi-finalist, Special White House Counsel) will explain just how meaningful
> it is to understand definitional terminology with some degree of precision
> as they discuss:
>
>
>
> "Using Topicality To Prevent A President From Getting Impeached &
> Convicted;" or, "It All Depends On What Your Definition Of IS, IS!"
>
>
>
> After Intermission, the Pay Per View Card Continues With a Debate That
> Will Necessarily Involve The Application Of The Politics Disadvantage.
>
>
>
> The Participants:
>
> Adrienne Brovero (Wake Multiple NDT Elim Participant & Top 5 Speaker) &
>
> Bob Shrum (Georgetown 2X NDT Participant and NDT Top Speaker)
>
>
>
> vs.
>
>
>
> Arlen Specter (U Penn NDT Quarters 50-51 and NDT 13th & 6th Speaker) &
>
> William Bennet (Denver NDT 8th Speaker 67).
>
>
>
> Judge:  The American People At The Ballot Box.
>
>
>
> The HYPE:
>
> Brovero will explain how politics is SUPPOSED to work,
>
> Shrum will describe how it DOES NOT ever work . . . for him, anyway
>
> Bennet will give an assessment of how politics must have been meant to
> work
>
> Specter will try to hold up the proceedings waiting for the next qualified
> Supreme Court nominee to emerge, and failing that for the next two years,
> will hold his breath like many, wondering if the Politics DA really does
> link to Supreme Court decision-making.
>
>
>
>
>
> The Final Debate Scheduled For Pay Per View Is Entitled:
>
> "Settling The Final Legend's Score;" or, Which Will Be The First Team Of
> Legends To Win Their Third?"
>
>
>
> For the Main Event, the Heart Tournament Committee will briefly change the
> name of the Tournament to "The NDT."   Two Rounds will be held to get
> these Legends to the Final, Final Main Event:
>
>
>
> In one semi-final,
>
>
>
> Holt Spicer & James Q. Wilson  (Redlands NDT 50, Champs 51 and 52 & Top
> Speaker/Second Speaker & Second Speaker/Top Speaker)   will debate
>
>
>
> Michael Gottlieb & Ryan Sparacino (Northwestern NDT Champs 98-99, Top,
> Top, Top and Second Speaker NDT)
>
>
>
> In the other semi-final,
>
>
>
> William Welsh & Richard Kirshberg (Northwestern NDT Champs 58-59) will
> debate
>
>
>
> Sean McCaffity & Jody Terry (Northwestern NDT Champs 94-95)
>
>
>
>
>
> The HYPE:  You want LEGENDS, here's your legends.
>
> The Betting Line and Most Probable Post-Match Story Line On This One:
>
>
>
> Taking the train across country, like in the old days of legend, Spicer &
> Wilson compile two tin boxes of file cards, rather than just one, and, using
> some of the cards from both tin boxes, while effectively ignoring the
> suggestions from the combined worker bee armies [who were brought along just
> to look impressive in order to combat the consolidated evil legions of the
> Northwestern juggernaut anticipated to be in attendance] consisting of past
> (1) Southwest Missouri State debaters loyal to Professor Spicer (I know,
> even the name has changed but Professor Spicer built a monster of a Debate
> Program at SMS) &
>
> (2) Redlands debaters (who got to hear Wilson & Spicer debate Rubenstein &
> Cole at the Redlands 75th Anniversary),
>
>
>
> Spicer & Wilson emerged from two hard-fought rounds, as Ric Flair did,
> with the LEGENDS TITLE IN HAND, for it is written when LEGENDS are in the
> field that old age and treachery will always defeat youth, talent and skill.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As an added attraction, a STEEL CAGE DEBATE will be held following Spicer
> and Holt's victories.  The Steel Cage Match features a 70's contest with
>
>
>
> BROWN taking on GEORGETOWN
>
>
>
> Hotep X and Tuna Snider: (You DO NOT WANT TO DEBATE THIS TEAM)
>
>
>
> will debate
>
>
>
> Dallas Perkins & Howard Beales:  (You LIVE IN FEAR, FEAR, FEAR THAT THIS
> TEAM WILL BE IN YOUR BRACKET, IN YOUR HOTEL, IN YOUR FUTURE)
>
>
>
>
>
> And, just so EVERYONE can get their money's worth, after the blood and
> guts are peeled off the cage doors, and the ring is wiped clean or bodily
> fluids,
>
>
>
> A BATTLE ROYALE will close out the evening:  Everyone in attendance will
> be invited down for just one more round, and the joy of listening to any
> number of LEGENDS, from the 40's, 50's, 60's 70's 80's, 90's and graduated
> classes of the new millenium, just once more, will make the contest a
> spectacular pay per view event.
>
>
>
> If any of you ever get the chance, and are interested, ask Professors
> Zigemuller, Patterson, Southworth, or Strange about how amazing it would be
> for anyone to hear [from the 70's] Stuart Singer, Barret McInerney, Don
> Hornstein, Joe Loveland, Joe McGuire, Elliot Minceberg, Mary Grace Diehl,
> Gil Skillman, Dennis Winston, Mike Fernandez, Robin Rowland, Frank Cross,
> David Kent, or Linda Listrom (among lots and lots of others) again.
>
>
>
> Same, it seems for the 80's and 90's.  Many people, would pay to hear
> Steve Mancuso, Alan Coverstone, Gloria Cabada, Lenny Gale, Marc Rubenstein,
> or any of the many greats from Iowa, Michigan, Wake, Louisville, Dartmouth
> and Emory, debate again.
>
>
>
> The idea of the LEGENDS TOURNAMENT has a real special appeal, and
> hopefully a whole LOT of old, but not quite dead yet people will give it a
> try. If not, current those of you who read this and who have eligibility
> remaining, each should just enjoy the years/tournaments/rounds you may have
> left in your own careers. Once it is over, you become . . . at best a
> legend, and as the decades and half-centuries pass, you sometimes just
> become forgotten, until the next legends tournament rolls around on pay per
> view.
>
>
>
> Josh
>
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From fcmnyc  Tue Dec  5 12:06:37 2006
From: fcmnyc (F M)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:06:37 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Legends Tournament
Message-ID: <38531a990612051006n278e471bp58393fba460acdfd@mail.gmail.com>

Josh,

Why such a big NDT bias in your post.  You forget about all the CEDA
legends....Mark West, MCFLIP, John Dean just to name a few
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From jbhdb8  Tue Dec  5 12:17:59 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:17:59 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Legends Tournament
In-Reply-To: <38531a990612051006n278e471bp58393fba460acdfd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38531a990612051006n278e471bp58393fba460acdfd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612051017t3dec3369v201d12bdb5d60323@mail.gmail.com>

Wasnt my post - I was posting it for Bill Smelko a former NDT debater from
way back :)

Josh


On 12/5/06, F M <fcmnyc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Josh,
>
> Why such a big NDT bias in your post.  You forget about all the CEDA
> legends....Mark West, MCFLIP, John Dean just to name a few
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jbhdb8  Tue Dec  5 12:19:32 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:19:32 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Legends Post Was Not Mine
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612051019o6a3e021cqf139fcbdd306f445@mail.gmail.com>

I posted that legend post for a friend Bill Smelko....It was not mine.

Josh
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From andy.edebate  Tue Dec  5 13:18:03 2006
From: andy.edebate (Andy Ellis)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 14:18:03 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Harriet Tubman Debates Jan 20-21 at towson
Message-ID: <9368bc9b0612051118pa0e13b7ga5cc8faba9a2f580@mail.gmail.com>

Just a reminder, the Harriet Tubman Debates at towson university will be jan
20-21 2007. Entries on debate results are encouraged.

This is the final Baltimore college debate tournament of the year and we
would like to have as many folks as possible attend.

We have already started to get some confirmations from ceda east, and expect
local teams from Hopkins, Morgan State, BCCC, and perhaps temple.(We are
constantly working on more)

If you are interested please ask me about the tournament or beth skinner
about hotels (eskinner at towson.edu)

Andy Ellis
Baltimore College Debate
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From scottaherndon  Tue Dec  5 16:46:44 2006
From: scottaherndon (Scott Herndon)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:46:44 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Someone from UNI
Message-ID: <BAY119-DAV64B0BDBC31D610845444BA5DE0@phx.gbl>

Hey, 

 

I have a cite request. 

 

Thanks, 

 

Scott Herndon

UTD

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From stables  Tue Dec  5 16:59:26 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:59:26 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Updates 12/05
Message-ID: <4575F9CE.60601@usc.edu>

Greetings all,

I know this is a busy time of the year so I will try to keep the updates 
to a minimum. Expect roughly one email per week as we get closer to the 
event. This short list should allow us to best serve your needs during 
the tournament.

1) Hotels - We have located an overflow block at The Westin Bonaventure 
Hotel & Suites. The hotel information is: 404 South Figueroa Street ? 
Los Angeles, California 90071 ? United States ? Phone: (213) 624-1000 
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=1004 
The block will be listed as USC debate and the rate is $109 per room for 
double-bed rooms. If you have any trouble making reservations or have 
any issues at the Sheraton, please let me know.

2) Shuttle service - As mentioned in the invite, we will honor all 
requests to shuttle participants made by December 17. If you need ground 
transportation to and from the tournament each day, please let me know. 
I will confirm that number to you and adjust your fees accordingly. We 
are contracting the transportation to match the number of reservations, 
so advance notice is a necessity.

3) Participant Numbers/Dietary Preferences - Please let us know your 
hotel head-count for your group and include any dietary preferences 
(i.e., vegan, etc.)

4) Judging - Traditionally we activate the judge prefs on the 26th. We 
would like to be able to do so earlier this year, but we need your help. 
Please enter the tournament at debateresults if you haven't done so 
already. Please also adjust your judges to match your commitment. We 
would like to be able to turn off entries on December 15th (next Friday) 
and have a roughly final idea of the tournament field.

Best of luck with end of the semester and year happenings. Don't 
hesitate to let me know if there is anything we can do to facilitate 
your trip to LA.

Gordon



-- 

Gordon Stables, Ph.D.

Director of Debate

Annenberg School for Communication

University of Southern California

Office: 213 740 2759               Fax: 213 740 3913

http://usctrojandebate.com
 <http://usctrojandebate.com> 




From matthiasbostick  Tue Dec  5 18:46:50 2006
From: matthiasbostick (Matthias Bostick)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:46:50 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Open Heart/Legends Judging
Message-ID: <da6a7f6d0612051646m7bfd4fc8mbc6d637a23bc09a0@mail.gmail.com>

If anyone is undecided about coming out of retirement to enter the Heart, I
will offer to donate up to two rounds of judging for such a team.  It has to
be a sweet team, however.

bostick

-- 
nothing can be changed except ourselves
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From delliott  Tue Dec  5 20:08:57 2006
From: delliott (Darren Elliott)
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:08:57 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Zive/Ardebili confirmed at the Heart
Message-ID: <s575d1ee.080@netware.kckcc.edu>

Zive sent me this.  It confirms the inside info I had received from
Hajir's dad.  Looks like it is shaping up nicely.  Add to that Mahoney
who has confirmed his return (no partner indicated), and Gerber and
Thompson and you gots the making of a Royal Rumble. 

chief

Darren Elliott
Director Of Debate--KCKCC
CEDA 2nd VP

>>> "Zive, Joshua" <Joshua.Zive at bgllp.com> 12/04/06 7:23 AM >>>
I saw your post on edebate, but I do not have posting privs.

For the record, the Jayhwk Alumni Team of Hajir Ardebili/Josh Zive will
be entering the Heart.  With glacial speed and persistence we plan on
overwhelming the Heart on our old home turf.  Of course, we are legends
in our own minds only.  

Additionally, there are rumors of a Mike Hester/Jon Sharp team as well.

Best,
Josh

Joshua Zive



From pacedebate  Wed Dec  6 09:00:05 2006
From: pacedebate (pacedebate at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:00:05 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Zive/Ardebili confirmed at the Heart
In-Reply-To: <s575d1ee.080@netware.kckcc.edu>
References: <s575d1ee.080@netware.kckcc.edu>
Message-ID: <8C8E75E5977BE81-C44-302A@FWM-R04.sysops.aol.com>

 I will be debating with Mike Kloster.
 
Tim Mahoney
Director of Debate, St. Mark's School of Texas
10600 Preston Road
Dallas, TX 75230
214-346-8141
214-734-3673 cell

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: delliott at kckcc.edu
To: edebate at ndtceda.com
Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 8:08 PM
Subject: [eDebate] Zive/Ardebili confirmed at the Heart


Zive sent me this.  It confirms the inside info I had received from
Hajir's dad.  Looks like it is shaping up nicely.  Add to that Mahoney
who has confirmed his return (no partner indicated), and Gerber and
Thompson and you gots the making of a Royal Rumble. 

chief

Darren Elliott
Director Of Debate--KCKCC
CEDA 2nd VP

>>> "Zive, Joshua" <Joshua.Zive at bgllp.com> 12/04/06 7:23 AM >>>
I saw your post on edebate, but I do not have posting privs.

For the record, the Jayhwk Alumni Team of Hajir Ardebili/Josh Zive will
be entering the Heart.  With glacial speed and persistence we plan on
overwhelming the Heart on our old home turf.  Of course, we are legends
in our own minds only.  

Additionally, there are rumors of a Mike Hester/Jon Sharp team as well.

Best,
Josh

Joshua Zive

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From tara_l_tate  Wed Dec  6 09:26:47 2006
From: tara_l_tate (Tara Tate)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:26:47 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] HS Judging Philosophies
Message-ID: <BAY111-W36343E5F4402894B0506DA1DD0@phx.gbl>


The NDCA would like to remind all high school judges to submit their judge philosophies to our database! We are working on one last final copy before Winter Break. Please submit your judge philosophy as a Word document attachment to ndcajudgingphilosophy at gmail.com . For those of you that may not have updated your philosophy in a while, now is the perfect time to also submit an updated one!
 
Best,
Tara L. Tate
President, National Debate Coaches Association
Director of Debate, Glenbrook South HS (IL)
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From debate  Wed Dec  6 09:44:20 2006
From: debate (debate at ou.edu)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:44:20 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Northwestern Hotel
Message-ID: <f65eabc4606a.457690f4@ou.edu>

I need some help.  What is the tournament hotel for northwestern?

jackie


From scottelliott  Wed Dec  6 10:08:25 2006
From: scottelliott (scottelliott at grandecom.net)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:08:25 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Heart-Old Goat betting pool?
Message-ID: <1165421305.4576eaf92b5bc@webmail.grandecom.net>

Is anyone starting a betting pool on how many rounds these old men (have yet to
see a woman whoe's ego needs more stroking) will win or if they will even
break?

Scott Elliott






From harobran  Wed Dec  6 10:49:59 2006
From: harobran (Josh Branson)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:49:59 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Iran question
Message-ID: <BAY133-F13525C3A16C0274002DC65C4DD0@phx.gbl>

All---

I am working on something for work and I was wondering if anybody, in all 
the many Iran debates we've had, had come across a document that detailed 
Iran's public statements regarding the technological progress of their 
nuclear program. I don't mean the vague 'we hate America, and we will become 
a nucelar power' stuff, but rather any sort of timetable that they've given 
either the EU-3 or the UN or anyone for the technical progression of their 
nuclear capability (how many centrifuge cascades etc). I know it's a long 
shot but I thought I'd throw the question out there.

thanks
Josh Branson

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From stannardmatt  Wed Dec  6 11:31:04 2006
From: stannardmatt (matt stannard)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:31:04 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] Zive/Ardebili confirmed at the Heart
In-Reply-To: <8C8E75E5977BE81-C44-302A@FWM-R04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F17144D927B193C9393A73ED2DD0@phx.gbl>

Will you read the "Dick" evidence, Tim?

mjs


>From: pacedebate at aol.com
>To: edebate at ndtceda.com
>Subject: Re: [eDebate] Zive/Ardebili confirmed at the Heart
>Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:00:05 -0500
>
>  I will be debating with Mike Kloster.
>
>Tim Mahoney
>Director of Debate, St. Mark's School of Texas
>10600 Preston Road
>Dallas, TX 75230
>214-346-8141
>214-734-3673 cell
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: delliott at kckcc.edu
>To: edebate at ndtceda.com
>Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 8:08 PM
>Subject: [eDebate] Zive/Ardebili confirmed at the Heart
>
>
>Zive sent me this.  It confirms the inside info I had received from
>Hajir's dad.  Looks like it is shaping up nicely.  Add to that Mahoney
>who has confirmed his return (no partner indicated), and Gerber and
>Thompson and you gots the making of a Royal Rumble.
>
>chief
>
>Darren Elliott
>Director Of Debate--KCKCC
>CEDA 2nd VP
>
> >>> "Zive, Joshua" <Joshua.Zive at bgllp.com> 12/04/06 7:23 AM >>>
>I saw your post on edebate, but I do not have posting privs.
>
>For the record, the Jayhwk Alumni Team of Hajir Ardebili/Josh Zive will
>be entering the Heart.  With glacial speed and persistence we plan on
>overwhelming the Heart on our old home turf.  Of course, we are legends
>in our own minds only.
>
>Additionally, there are rumors of a Mike Hester/Jon Sharp team as well.
>
>Best,
>Josh
>
>Joshua Zive
>
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From k-hamrick  Wed Dec  6 12:31:33 2006
From: k-hamrick (Kevin Hamrick)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:31:33 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Northwestern Hotel
In-Reply-To: <f65eabc4606a.457690f4@ou.edu>
References: <f65eabc4606a.457690f4@ou.edu>
Message-ID: <0E69BCA1-00E6-422E-AE2E-6A9034D9E5B2@northwestern.edu>

I'll try to get the link fixed.

Here's the hotel info:

	
Holiday Inn: Chicago City Centre

www.chicc.com
300 East Ohio St
Chicago, Illinois 60611
(312) 787-6259

K

On Dec 6, 2006, at 9:44 AM, debate at ou.edu wrote:

> I need some help.  What is the tournament hotel for northwestern?
>
> jackie
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From jwpatt00  Wed Dec  6 13:18:29 2006
From: jwpatt00 (JW Patterson)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:18:29 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] TOC Qualifiers: Ohio Valley, Monticello
Message-ID: <C19C81B5.2AB22%jwpatt00@uky.edu>

PLEASE NOTE: APPLICATIONS FOR AT-LARGE BIDS MUST BE IN LEXINGTON BY MARCH
15, 2007. PLEASE NOTE, NOT POSTMARKED ON THIS DATE, BUT IN LEXINGTON BY THIS
DATE. 
 
THE ROAD TO THE 2007 TOC

DATES: SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY

MAY 5,  MAY 6, MAY 7, 2007
  


NEW TOURNAMENT HOTEL - ?RADISSON PLAZA HOTEL?
Located Downtown
(Special Rate: $95 a night, up to four people;
(859) 231-9000; Ask for reservations, then mention UK Debate; After 5:00 P.M
call (800) 333-3333)
FREE PARKING! Including vans and busses.
FREE WIRELESS INTERNET!

 DISCLAIMER:  THE RESULTS POSTED FROM EACH TOURNAMENT ARE ALWAYS SUBJECT TO
 CHANGE IF THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR REPORTS THAT A MISTAKE WAS MADE IN THE
 ORIGINAL CERTIFICATION.  IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE NAMES ARE SPELLED
AS 
 REPORTED BY THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR AND ARE SUBJECT TO CORRECTION IF A
 MISSPELLING HAS APPEARED.
 
 1) TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS PLEASE NOTE: WHEN CERTIFYING THE TOC QUALIFIERS
PLEASE 
 INCLUDE FULL NAME, SCHOOL, AND STATE OF THE DEBATERS.
 
 2) COACHES AND DEBATERS PLEASE NOTE:  A DEBATER IN LD OR A TEAM IN POLICY
MUST 
 ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN A QUALIFYING ROUND TO RECEIVE A TOC 'BID.' IN OTHER
 WORDS, IF A DEBATER OR TEAM DOES NOT DEBATE THE ROUND FOR WHATEVER REASON
THEY 
CANNOT RECEIVE A TOC 'BID' FOR THAT ROUND. THIS REQUIREMENT WAS
OVERWHELMINGLY 
 RECOMMENDED BY THE TOC ADVISORY COMMITTEE .

NOTE: AN ASTERICK INDICATES A GHOST BID


OHIO VALLEY (KY)

The Ohio Valley Invitational in Lexington, Kentucky is a TOC qualifier in
policy debate at the quarterfinals level, and in Lincoln-Douglas in the
semifinals level. 

POLICY

Chattahoochee (GA) Ovair Inamullah and Gary Seidman
Centerville (OH) Eli Jacobs and Parker Cronin
Glenbrook North (IL) Matt Fisher and Stephanie Spies
Bishop Guertin (NH) Bill Gerath and A.J. O?Donnell
Burlington (VT) Matthew Senghar and Evan Johnson
MBA (TN) Jamie Berk and Kyle Davis
Pace Academy (GA) Jennifer Armstrong and Payton Lee
Chattahoochee FG (GA) Matt Foretick and Josh Grace
*Chattahoochee LP (GA) Tony Pelli and Mike Lacy


LD

Lexington (MA) Evan Seitchik
Montgomery Academy (AL) Walt Johnson
Penn (PA) Dillion Gonderman
Celebration (FL) Kelsey Averill


UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN (TX)

Joe Rollins, Director of the Texas Invitational has certified the 2007 TOC
qualifiers. Texas is a TOC qualifier in Policy debate at the quarterfinals
level; in Lincoln Douglass at the Semifinals level; and in Student Congress
at the Finals level.

POLICY

Kinkaid (TX) Daniel Sharp and Julia Lovett
Caddo (LA) RJ Giglio and Cameron Goldsmith
The Woodlands (TX) Eric Lanning and Leah Moczulski
St. Mark?s (TX) Alex Katz and Andrew Slottje
Greenhill (TX) Bryant Huang and Judith Vasquez
Winston Churchill (TX) Avi Munoz and Kelcey O?Quinn
Kinkaid (TX) Ryan Beiermeister and Lawren Tilney
Greenhill (TX) Yvette Ferrer and Hayden Schottlander


LD

Winston Churchill (TX) Justin Bexley
Kinkaid (TX) Becca Traber
Jersey Village (TX) Daniel Cory
Strake Jesuit (TX) Phillip Wiggins

CONGRESS

Southlake Carroll (TX) Richard Jordan
Plano West (TX) Tian Feng
Colleyville Heritage (TX) Melissa Butler
McNeil (TX) Andrew John
Southlake Carroll (TX) Samantha Shaw
Duncanville (TX) Kevin Eaton
Sugar Land (TX) Neelarn Mistry
Anderson (TX) Joseph Hochman
Deer Park (TX) Ian Jacoby
Southlake Carroll (TX) Kevin Chiu
Southlake Carroll (TX) Forest Wilkinson
Southlake Carroll (TX) Dillon Huff
Summit (TX) Savannah Daniels
Sugar Land (TX) Aamir Hasanali
Dulles (TX) Bernard Hong
Reagan (TX) Steve Denson


Sincerely,

JW Patterson 
Founder and Director of the TOC








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From jwpatt00  Wed Dec  6 13:33:04 2006
From: jwpatt00 (JW Patterson)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:33:04 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] TOC Qualifiers: Michigan, Whitman, and Hudson
Message-ID: <C19C8520.2AB28%jwpatt00@uky.edu>

PLEASE NOTE: APPLICATIONS FOR AT-LARGE BIDS MUST BE IN LEXINGTON BY MARCH
15, 2007. PLEASE NOTE, NOT POSTMARKED ON THIS DATE, BUT IN LEXINGTON BY THIS
DATE. 
 
THE ROAD TO THE 2007 TOC

DATES: SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY

MAY 5,  MAY 6, MAY 7, 2007
  


NEW TOURNAMENT HOTEL - ?RADISSON PLAZA HOTEL?
Located Downtown
(Special Rate: $95 a night, up to four people;
(859) 231-9000; Ask for reservations, then mention UK Debate; After 5:00 P.M
call (800) 333-3333)
FREE PARKING! Including vans and busses.
FREE WIRELESS INTERNET!

 DISCLAIMER:  THE RESULTS POSTED FROM EACH TOURNAMENT ARE ALWAYS SUBJECT TO
 CHANGE IF THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR REPORTS THAT A MISTAKE WAS MADE IN THE
 ORIGINAL CERTIFICATION.  IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE NAMES ARE SPELLED
AS 
 REPORTED BY THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR AND ARE SUBJECT TO CORRECTION IF A
 MISSPELLING HAS APPEARED.
 
 1) TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS PLEASE NOTE: WHEN CERTIFYING THE TOC QUALIFIERS
PLEASE 
 INCLUDE FULL NAME, SCHOOL, AND STATE OF THE DEBATERS.
 
 2) COACHES AND DEBATERS PLEASE NOTE:  A DEBATER IN LD OR A TEAM IN POLICY
MUST 
 ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN A QUALIFYING ROUND TO RECEIVE A TOC 'BID.' IN OTHER
 WORDS, IF A DEBATER OR TEAM DOES NOT DEBATE THE ROUND FOR WHATEVER REASON
THEY 
CANNOT RECEIVE A TOC 'BID' FOR THAT ROUND. THIS REQUIREMENT WAS
OVERWHELMINGLY 
 RECOMMENDED BY THE TOC ADVISORY COMMITTEE .

NOTE: AN ASTERICK INDICATES A GHOST BID

UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN (MI)

Aaron Kall, Assistant Director of Debate at the University of Michigan has
certified the results for the 2006-2007 University of Michigan invitational.
The tournament is bid at the Quarterfinals level in policy debate.

POLICY

    Westminster (GA) Stephen Weil and Anshu Sathian
    Chattahoochee (GA) Ovais Inamullah and Gary Seidman
    Groves (MI) Sara Kirsch and Jonathan Warsh
    Colleyville Heritage (TX) Evan DeFillippis and James Hamraie
    Wayzata (MN) Megan Swenson and Ana Nikolic
    Bishop Guertin (NH) AJ O'Donnell and Bill Gerath
    Marquette University (WI) Gaurav Bhatnagar and Nolan Wanecke
    Saint Ignatius (OH) Patrick Elwell and Scott Movens

Hendrick Hudson (NY)

Jim Menick, Director of Debate at Hendrick Hudson has certified the results
of the school?s 2006-2007 tournament. The tournament is a bid at the
Quarterfinal?s level in Lincoln Douglas debate.

LD

    Greg Hertz, Millburn HS, New Jersey
    Evan Seitchik, Lexington HS, Massachusetts
    Micki Chernick, Lexington HS, Massachusetts
    Nikita Lalwani, Scarsdale HS, New York
    Eric Sporkin, Syosset HS, New York
    Ardevan Yaghoubi, Scarsdale HS, New York
    Najeeb Khuda, Lake Highland HS, Florida
    Peter Damrosch, Berkeley Carroll HS, New York
    *Matt Aks, Scarsdale HS, New York


Whitman (WA)

Jim Hanson, Director of Debate at Whitman College has certified the results
of the college?s 2006-2007 invitational. Whitman is a bid at the Finals
level in both policy and Lincoln Douglas debate.

POLICY

    Capital (ID) Alexandre Grande and Rebecca Kopplin
    Bellingham (WA) Max Brown and Grant Potter

LD

    Mercer Island (WA) James Culver
    Tahoma (WA) Alex Soldano


Sincerely,

JW Patterson


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From jwpatt00  Wed Dec  6 14:02:35 2006
From: jwpatt00 (JW Patterson)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:02:35 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] TOC Tournament Hotel Updates
Message-ID: <C19C8C0B.2AB30%jwpatt00@uky.edu>

THE ROAD TO THE 2007 TOC

DATES: SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY

MAY 5,  MAY 6, MAY 7, 2007

NEW TOURNAMENT HOTEL - ?RADISSON PLAZA HOTEL?

Located Downtown
FREE PARKING! Including vans and busses.
FREE WIRELESS INTERNET!

NEW TOURNAMENT HOTEL?THE RADISSON PLAZA, A BIG SUCCESS
We used the Radisson Plaza for the Ohio Valley this past weekend and from
all accounts people really liked it.  They especially liked the wireless
high speed internet, the proximity to the campus, and accessibility to many
eating establishments.

NEW TOURNAMENT HOTEL FILLING RAPIDLY

The Radisson reservations reports that over half our allotment is already
gone.  I advise you to reserve  rooms as soon as you are qualified.  Call:
Day: (859) 231-9000, After 5PM: (800) 333-3333.

SPECIAL FEATURES OF THE RADISSON

The Radisson is part of a hotel chain that includes the Park Plaza Hotels,
Country Inn and Suites, Park Inn Hotels, and Regent Hotels and Resorts.  It
is all part of the Carlson Hotel Chain.  There are 100 Radisson Properties
in North America.  

RADISSON FEATURES ARE AS FOLLOWS:

1. Free Parking for overnight guest in 1 of 3 adjacent garages. Oversized
parking is available at no additional charge in a nearby parking lot with
complimentary shuttle transportation to and from the oversized parking
areas. 

2. Complimentary airport shuttles.

3. Photo Copies for 10 cents a page at the front desk.

4. Complimentary wireless high speed internet in all guests rooms, public
spaces, and meeting rooms.

5.  Indoor swimming pool, world pool, and fitness room.

6.  On premises laundry and dry cleaning services

7.  20 Restaurants within walking distance of the hotel, including the Caf?
on the Park within the Hotel and DeSha?s and Starbucks Coffee directly
across the street.  Some of Lexington?s very best dinning is within 3 blocks
of the hotel. 

8.  The hotel is located only 5 blocks from the University of Kentucky
Campus and overlooks Rupp Arena.

9.  The hotel has 18 meeting rooms which will enable us to avoid having to
hold any rounds in bedrooms.


HOTEL SUITES AVAILABLE

For those of you who are looking for work space, the hotel has 15 ?20 suites
which of course will be more expensive than standard rooms, but the
availability is there.

Sincerely,
JW Patterson
TOC Director and Founder




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From jwpatt00  Wed Dec  6 14:08:12 2006
From: jwpatt00 (JW Patterson)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:08:12 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] TOC Updates: Ohio Valley and UT Austin
Message-ID: <C19C8D5C.2AB34%jwpatt00@uky.edu>

PLEASE NOTE: APPLICATIONS FOR AT-LARGE BIDS MUST BE IN LEXINGTON BY MARCH
15, 2007. PLEASE NOTE, NOT POSTMARKED ON THIS DATE, BUT IN LEXINGTON BY THIS
DATE. 
 
THE ROAD TO THE 2007 TOC

DATES: SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY

MAY 5,  MAY 6, MAY 7, 2007
  


NEW TOURNAMENT HOTEL - ?RADISSON PLAZA HOTEL?
Located Downtown
(Special Rate: $95 a night, up to four people;
(859) 231-9000; Ask for reservations, then mention UK Debate; After 5:00 P.M
call (800) 333-3333)
FREE PARKING! Including vans and busses.
FREE WIRELESS INTERNET!

 DISCLAIMER:  THE RESULTS POSTED FROM EACH TOURNAMENT ARE ALWAYS SUBJECT TO
 CHANGE IF THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR REPORTS THAT A MISTAKE WAS MADE IN THE
 ORIGINAL CERTIFICATION.  IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE NAMES ARE SPELLED
AS 
 REPORTED BY THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR AND ARE SUBJECT TO CORRECTION IF A
 MISSPELLING HAS APPEARED.
 
 1) TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS PLEASE NOTE: WHEN CERTIFYING THE TOC QUALIFIERS
PLEASE 
 INCLUDE FULL NAME, SCHOOL, AND STATE OF THE DEBATERS.
 
 2) COACHES AND DEBATERS PLEASE NOTE:  A DEBATER IN LD OR A TEAM IN POLICY
MUST 
 ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN A QUALIFYING ROUND TO RECEIVE A TOC 'BID.' IN OTHER
 WORDS, IF A DEBATER OR TEAM DOES NOT DEBATE THE ROUND FOR WHATEVER REASON
THEY 
CANNOT RECEIVE A TOC 'BID' FOR THAT ROUND. THIS REQUIREMENT WAS
OVERWHELMINGLY 
 RECOMMENDED BY THE TOC ADVISORY COMMITTEE .

NOTE: AN ASTERICK INDICATES A GHOST BID


OHIO VALLEY (KY)

The Ohio Valley Invitational in Lexington, Kentucky is a TOC qualifier in
policy debate at the quarterfinals level, and in Lincoln-Douglas in the
semifinals level. 

POLICY

Chattahoochee (GA) Ovair Inamullah and Gary Seidman
Centerville (OH) Eli Jacobs and Parker Cronin
Glenbrook North (IL) Matt Fisher and Stephanie Spies
Bishop Guertin (NH) Bill Gerath and A.J. O?Donnell
Burlington (VT) Matthew Senghar and Evan Johnson
MBA (TN) Jamie Berk and Kyle Davis
Pace Academy (GA) Jennifer Armstrong and Payton Lee
Chattahoochee FG (GA) Matt Foretick and Josh Grace
*Chattahoochee LP (GA) Tony Pelli and Mike Lacy


LD

Lexington (MA) Evan Seitchik
Montgomery Academy (AL) Walt Johnson
Penn (PA) Dillion Gonderman
Celebration (FL) Kelsey Averill


UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN (TX)

Joe Rollins, Director of the Texas Invitational has certified the 2007 TOC
qualifiers. Texas is a TOC qualifier in Policy debate at the quarterfinals
level; in Lincoln Douglass at the Semifinals level; and in Student Congress
at the Finals level.

POLICY

Kinkaid (TX) Daniel Sharp and Julia Lovett
Caddo (LA) RJ Giglio and Cameron Goldsmith
The Woodlands (TX) Eric Lanning and Leah Moczulski
St. Mark?s (TX) Alex Katz and Andrew Slottje
Greenhill (TX) Bryant Huang and Judith Vasquez
Winston Churchill (TX) Avi Munoz and Kelcey O?Quinn
Kinkaid (TX) Ryan Beiermeister and Lawren Tilney
Greenhill (TX) Yvette Ferrer and Hayden Schottlander


LD

Winston Churchill (TX) Justin Bexley
Kinkaid (TX) Becca Traber
Jersey Village (TX) Daniel Cory
Strake Jesuit (TX) Phillip Wiggins

CONGRESS

Southlake Carroll (TX) Richard Jordan
Plano West (TX) Tian Feng
Colleyville Heritage (TX) Melissa Butler
McNeil (TX) Andrew John
Southlake Carroll (TX) Samantha Shaw
Duncanville (TX) Kevin Eaton
Sugar Land (TX) Neelarn Mistry
Anderson (TX) Joseph Hochman
Deer Park (TX) Ian Jacoby
Southlake Carroll (TX) Kevin Chiu
Southlake Carroll (TX) Forest Wilkinson
Southlake Carroll (TX) Dillon Huff
Summit (TX) Savannah Daniels
Sugar Land (TX) Aamir Hasanali
Dulles (TX) Bernard Hong
Reagan (TX) Steve Denson


Sincerely,

JW Patterson 
Founder and Director of the TOC

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From matt_moore85  Wed Dec  6 15:31:46 2006
From: matt_moore85 (Matt Moore)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:31:46 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Great Reason to Attend the Augustana Tournament
Message-ID: <BAY101-W199DE0D2DCB5BCE6C56C6EBDD0@phx.gbl>

So I started shopping for trophies- so far I have one:http://augustana2007tournament.blogspot.com/I will send out the pictures as we get more in.
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From jakethompsondebate  Wed Dec  6 17:45:24 2006
From: jakethompsondebate (jacob thompson)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:45:24 +0000
Subject: [eDebate] Heart-Old Goat betting pool?
In-Reply-To: <1165421305.4576eaf92b5bc@webmail.grandecom.net>
Message-ID: <BAY107-F8AC46A445416617B86C2DC5DD0@phx.gbl>

I'm willing to bet that Gerber and I win at least one against Brigham Young 
East.

p.s. How dare you Say that Gerber isn't a woman?

jake thompson
UNI


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>From: scottelliott at grandecom.net
>To: edebate at ndtceda.com
>Subject: [eDebate] Heart-Old Goat betting pool?
>Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:08:25 -0600
>Is anyone starting a betting pool on how many rounds these old men (have 
>yet to
>see a woman whoe's ego needs more stroking) will win or if they will even
>break?
>
>Scott Elliott
>
>
>
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From lsd041  Wed Dec  6 16:03:50 2006
From: lsd041 (Scott Deatherage)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:03:50 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Northwestern Tournament Invitation
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20061206155845.03204cb8@northwestern.edu>

Greetings, all.  I hope this note finds you well 
and that your end of the year tasks are not too 
onerous.  A couple of coaches have had difficulty 
accessing the invitation to the 49th Annual Owen 
L. Coon Tournament at Northwestern from the 
"invite" link at www.debateresults.com.  I'm not 
sure why; when I sign-on, I have had no 
difficulty viewing the invite.  There may have 
been a temporary glitch in the system.  In any 
event, I post it here as a secondary 
source.  I'll also ask our web master to post it 
to our web page at 
www.debate.northwestern.edu.  We hope that you 
can join us in January for spirited competition.  Best, all.  SD


November 1, 2006

Greetings Directors, Coaches, Judges, Students, 
Alumni, and Friends.  This serves as invitation 
to the 49th Annual Owen L. Coon Memorial Debates, 
to be held on the Chicago Campus of Northwestern 
University, February 10-12, 2007.  PLEASE READ 
THIS INVITATION CAREFULLY; THERE ARE A NUMBER OF 
LOGISTICAL CHANGES AS COMPARED TO PAST YEARS.

After considerable research, we have decided to 
return to the popular alternative we employed in 
2004, namely hosting the tournament on 
Northwestern?s downtown campus.  The downtown 
campus is in the heart of Chicago?s Magnificent 
Mile, a beautiful shopping district that provides 
easy access to restaurants, cafes, bookstores, 
nightlife, and other amenities of interest.  The details:

Tournament Hotel:  The Holiday Inn City Centre 
will again serve as home to the Owen L. 
Coon.  The City Centre is the nicest property in 
the Holiday Inn chain.  Rooms are available at a 
rate of $109 per night, plus appropriate city 
taxes.  The $109 dollar rate is good for up to 
four persons per room.  The Holiday Inn City 
Centre is a 26 floor facility that boasts more 
than 500 guest sleeping rooms, with enough 
?double-doubles? to accommodate the entire 
tournament.  You will need to secure your 
reservation with a major credit card.  Be sure to 
mention to the reservation clerk that you are 
associated with the NU Owen L. Coon Memorial 
Debates.  Reservations must be made no later than 
Friday, January 19 to secure the tournament 
rate.  Cancellations must be made no later than 
6:00 p.m. on the day of your scheduled arrival 
time to avoid a ?no-show? penalty.  A substantial 
number of preset debates will be held at the 
Holiday Inn on Saturday, February 10, and 
elimination debates will be held there on Monday, 
February 12.  Accordingly, we strongly encourage 
you to choose the Holiday Inn.

Amenities in the hotel include in room high speed 
internet access, available via wireless 
connection in the lobby and other common areas 
and by hard wire in guest sleeping rooms.  Also 
available to registered guests is free access to 
the adjoining Lakeshore Athletic Club, a newly 
renovated, full service, professional gym and 
spa.  Parking is available in the hotel?s 
self-park garage at the rate of $30 for each 24 
hour period.  Parkers have in and out privileges 
for each paid 24 hour period, and the cost of 
parking can be billed to your room.  Additional 
parking options are discussed below in the 
?ground transportation and parking? section of this invitation.

             Reservations should be made directly 
with the hotel, 312-787-6100.  You can also 
register on line 
at: 
<file:///BLOCKED::http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/hi/1/en/rates/chicc?groupBookingCode=ol6>http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/hi/1/en/rates/chicc?groupBookingCode=ol6. 
Otherwise individuals can go to our website at 
<http://www.chicc.com>www.chicc.com and click on 
book a reservation.  Enter their dates and then 
enter the booking code OL6.  It?s probably best 
to cut and paste this web address into your browser.
             The Holiday Inn is located at 300 
East Ohio Street, just two blocks east of 
Michigan Avenue, the main artery of the 
aforementioned Magnificent Mile.  The hotel is 
easy to reach from all directions.  If you are 
driving in from either the north or south on 
Interstate 90/94, take the east bound Ohio Street 
exit right in the heart of the city.  Travel 
eastbound on Ohio Street approximately six blocks 
to the intersection of Ohio and Fairbanks; the 
Holiday Inn is on the northeast corner of that 
intersection.  You can?t miss it.  If you are 
coming in on Lake Shore Drive, exit westbound on 
Grand Avenue, travel two blocks to the 
intersection of Grand and Fairbanks.  Head north 
on Fairbanks for one block to the intersection of 
Fairbanks and Ohio.  Again, the hotel is on the 
northeast corner of that intersection.

The staff at Holiday Inn did a very nice job with 
the tournament in 2004, and we look forward to 
again working with them to make the tournament an enjoyable event for all.

Air Transport:  Downtown Chicago is easily 
accessible by air transportation via both 
Chicago?s O?Hare International Airport and Midway 
International Airport.  Both ports are 
approximately ten miles from downtown Chicago, 
each about a $25 cab ride away.  More information 
about ground transportation is provided 
below.  Midway is home to ?discounter? 
airlines.  It costs you no more to get to 
downtown Chicago from Midway than it does from 
O?Hare, so it?s worth a serious look to see if 
you can find cheaper flights to and from Midway.

Tournament Debates:  Some preliminary debates 
will occur in the Holiday Inn, particularly as 
pertains to rounds one and two.  Some early 
debates, and nearly all debates beginning in 
round three, will occur in Weiboldt Hall on 
Northwestern?s downtown campus.  Weiboldt Hall is 
approximately three blocks from the Holiday Inn; 
it takes approximately seven minutes to walk from 
the main entrance of the Holiday Inn to Weiboldt 
Hall.  Elimination rounds will be at the Holiday Inn.

Ground Transportation and Parking:  If you plan 
to fly to Chicago for the Owen L. Coon, we 
strongly encourage you to consider public 
transportation rather than vehicle rental.  We 
will be happy to provide evidence transportation 
between the Holiday Inn and the tournament 
site.  We recommend this principally because 
parking downtown can be both difficult to locate 
and expensive.  Once downtown, dozens (hundreds) 
of restaurants are within walking 
distance.  Virtually anything you could want is 
no more than a five dollar cab ride away.  Should 
you choose this option, be aware that the closest 
24 hour copy facility will require that five 
dollar ride, as will access to the nearest fully 
outfitted office supply store.

We are optimistic about finding cheaper perhaps 
free parking on Northwestern?s downtown 
campus.  Negotiation on this matter is underway, 
and additional information will be posted to 
edebate as it becomes available.  In the week 
preceding the tournament, a variety of tidbits 
about the tournament will be posted, including 
follow-up on this topic.  We strongly encourage 
you to review that information.

Entry Procedures, Limits, and Deadlines:  This 
year, entries are accepted at the now famous 
?Bruschke? web page, available at 
<http://www.debateresults.com/>www.debateresults.com. 
Use of the web page offers a number of advantages 
for the community.  Principally, it permits data 
on a variety of issues of community wide interest 
to be available to all.  The page is easy to use, 
particularly if you have entered other 
tournaments through that venue.  Initially, we 
will accept an entry of up to four teams per 
institution.  If space permits, we will take 
additional teams per school on a rotating basis 
(e.g. A school?s 5th team, then B school?s 5th 
team, through the end of the 5th teams, before 
wrapping back around to A school?s 6th team).

Entry Fees:  Entrants and their guests are 
welcome at the fee of $60 for each person plus 
$40 per team entered into the fray.  So, for 
instance, should your school wish to enter one 
team into the competition and offer one judge to 
cover that team?s judging commitment, the a total 
fee of $220 would be assessed:  $60 for each of 
the three participants and $40 for the team.  The 
good news is that this fee is the same as that 
assessed when we last hosted the Owen L. Coon 
College Tournament in February of 
2005.  Hopefully, we can provide our best level 
of hospitality without a substantial cost 
increase.  This fee structure is based on the 
same model employed at the National Debate 
Tournament, as well as other major events.  Fees 
cover a variety of meals throughout the 
tournament, receptions for coaches and judges, 
class room and meeting room rental to facilitate 
both preliminary and elimination round debates, 
as well as bus and cargo van transport to 
accommodate evidence and person movement between 
debating room facilities.  We are budgeting and 
arranging now to make the event both enjoyable and affordable for all.

Should you need to drop a participant, please do 
so no later than Noon Central Standard Time on 
Wednesday, February 7, 2007.  Drops are official 
ONLY if confirmed at the official tournament web 
site, the same URL where you enter.  Should you 
need to drop one or more participants after the 
aforementioned deadline, a drop fee of $60 per 
person will be assessed.  We do understand that 
drops are typically beyond your control.  They 
happen because of illness, poor traveling 
conditions, and other causes.  However, we are 
required by our caterers to provide a guarantee 
number for meals no later than the scheduled drop 
deadline.  Accordingly, after that point, we must 
pay for your meals no matter if you are present 
or not.  We will make a full financial disclosure 
at the conclusion of the tournament.

Judge Requirements:  Schools are required to 
provide four rounds of preliminary judging for 
each team entered.  Each judge is required to be 
available to hear the first two elimination 
rounds.  Per community practice, each judge is 
expected to be available one round beyond the 
elimination of the team with whom they are 
associated.  A limited number of hired judges are 
available at $25 per round.  Early notice of your 
need to hire a judge is appreciated.

Each judge will be REQUIRED to declare ONE AND 
ONLY ONE WINNER and ONE AND ONLY ONE LOSER in 
each debate to which they are assigned by the tab 
room.  Compliance with this rule requires each 
judge to complete an official judge ballot as 
designated by the tab room.  Completion of the 
ballot requires the judge to clearly designate 
affirmative or negative to signify a winning 
team.  Judges will also be required to confirm 
their choice by indicating the school with which 
the designated winner is affiliated.  The side 
(affirmative or negative) and school affiliation 
must match the assignments made by the tab 
room.  Judges will also be required to assign 
speaker points and speaker ranks to each 
participant in the debate.  Speaker points are 
accepted in increments of 0.5 from a minimum of 0 
to a maximum of 30.  Speaker ranks are accepted 
in whole numbers only from 1 to 4.

If you or one of your judges is unable or 
unwilling to fulfill these requirements, please 
submit an alternative judge prior to the start of 
the tournament.  If, during the course of the 
tournament, any judge representing your school 
refuses to comply with these requirements, teams 
affiliated with your school will be removed from 
the competition by the tab room.

             Topic:  Students are required to 
debate the topic selected for the 2006-07 season 
by a vote of the Cross Examination Debate 
Association membership.  The precise wording of 
this year?s topic is Resolved: The United States 
Supreme Court should overrule one or more of the 
following decisions: Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 
505 U.S. 833 (1992); Ex parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 
(1942); U.S. v. Morrison, 529 U.S. 598 (2000); 
Milliken v. Bradley, 418 U.S. 717 (1974). 
Confirmation of the official topic wording is 
available at 
<http://webs.wichita.edu/dt/beta.asp?u=ceda&p=/res>http://webs.wichita.edu/dt/beta.asp?u=ceda&p=/res. 
Topicality is a voting issue at both the Owen L. 
Coon Memorial Debates at Northwestern University 
and at the National Debate Tournament.
Tournament Procedures:  We are pleased to 
announce that Gary Larson of Wheaton College has 
agreed to return as tab room manager.  Gary will 
administer the tournament on the Smart Tournament 
Administrator, or STA, the program he pioneered 
and has used for years to tabulate major 
tournaments.  This is Gary?s 10th year as the tab 
room manager at the Owen L. Coon Tournament; we 
are very pleased to have him back.

Brackets will be broken in both preliminary and 
elimination debates to prevent teams from the 
same school from meeting.  Side equalization will 
be employed in both preliminary and elimination 
rounds.  Details on the procedure for elimination 
round side equalization will be provided at the 
tournament.  Said procedures are the same as 
those employed in previous Owen L. Coon 
tournaments.  Hybrid teams are permitted.  Prior 
to the tournament, maverick entries are NOT 
accepted.  Once the tournament begins, maverick 
debaters may or may not be permitted to 
continue.  The tournament director will evaluate 
maverick situations on a case-by-case basis.  The 
tournament employs the now traditional 9-3-6 
format with ten minutes of preparation time 
allocated to each team.  The first four 
preliminary rounds are preset.  Round five is 
paired on a high-high speaker point basis; six 
through eight are high-low.  We continue to 
employ a mutual judge preference (MJP) placement 
system.  Eight preliminary rounds are scheduled, 
followed by an appropriate number of elimination 
rounds, typically five.  Northwestern teams may 
compete in the tournament.  If so, they are 
eligible to receive speaker awards and to compete 
in elimination rounds.  We will enter via the web 
page and declare our participation 
publicly.  Northwestern teams will be required to 
complete a judge preference sheet; judge 
assignments for Northwestern teams will be 
assigned by the computer and changed only by the 
option of tab room manager Gary Larson.  We 
subscribe to CEDA?s policy against Sexual 
Harassment and Discrimination, and the Statement 
of Ethical Principles, found in Bylawys IV and V 
of the CEDA Constitution.  The tournament is CEDA Sanctioned.


Tentative Tournament Schedule
SUBJECT TO CHANGE


Friday, February 9


7:00 p.m.         Registration and Coaches Reception
Location TBA


Saturday, February 10


7:00 a.m.         Shuttles Load ? Holiday Inn City Center

8:00 a.m.         Round 1

10:30 a.m.       Round 2

1:00 p.m.         Lunch

2:30 p.m.         Round 3

5:00 p.m.         Round 4


Sunday, February 11


7:00 a.m.         Pairings Released ? Holiday Inn City Center

8:00 a.m.         Round 5

11:00 a.m.       Round 6

1:30 p.m.         Lunch

2:15 p.m.         Pairings for Round 7

3:00 p.m.         Round 7

5:45 p.m.         Pairings for Round 8

6:30 p.m.         Round 8

9:00 p.m.         Dinner and Awards Assembly


Monday, February 12


7:00 a.m.         Pairings for First Elimination 
Round ? Ground Level, Holiday Inn

8:00 a.m.         First Elimination Round

11:30 a.m.       Second Elimination Round

3:00 p.m.         Third Elimination Round

6:00 p.m.         Fourth Elimination Round

9:00 p.m.         Fifth Elimination Round


We do hope that you can join us in 
February.  Chicago is truly a world class city, 
and we will finally have the opportunity to fully 
enjoy its many offerings.  After this, someone 
might just start a movement to have a six round 
tournament so we can actually enjoy the possibilities!!!  Best.

Scott Deatherage
Director of Debate
Northwestern University
nudebate at northwestern.edu
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From kearney.debate  Wed Dec  6 21:02:21 2006
From: kearney.debate (Mike Kearney)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:02:21 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Judging problems at the heart?
Message-ID: <9d4609f90612061902l1f648a72rbd9b1edce7e4acda@mail.gmail.com>

I figure that with the "legends" debating at the heart, the judging pool
could potentially take a hit. Is there a reason someone like Ozzy or myself
could not judge at the heart? I don't think i want to judge but the idea of
voting against Scott Harris is just TOO tempting to pass up. :)
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From EricMorris  Wed Dec  6 21:44:32 2006
From: EricMorris (Morris, Eric R)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:44:32 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Judging problems at the heart?
In-Reply-To: <9d4609f90612061902l1f648a72rbd9b1edce7e4acda@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1CCBA609217926438CBBCDC5C19F899E56477C@blue.EDUBEAR.NET>

I think the trick here is the general community consensus that people
with eligibility do not judge in the open division without implicitly
foreclosing their eligibility. Thus, I'd be nervous about having my
debaters (or other people's debaters) judging unless there was some way
the community expressed an exception to that principle. Since I have no
idea what THAT expression would look like, my gut instinct is that
people planning to debate at other tournaments probably shouldn't judge
at the open heart.

 

Or, in the words of most Cubs and, until recently, Red Sox fans:

            Wait till next year

 

...as a Royals fan, though, I know it will be more than a year....

 

This does raise several other questions, though...

1.	Can you IMAGINE Harris in a post round discussion where HE, not
just his team, had been the ones LOSING the argument? 
2.	Wouldn't getting a win over Harris be WAY more tempting than
being the judge?

 

Dr. Eric Morris

Asst Prof of Communication

Director of Forensics

Craig Hall 366A

Missouri State University

Springfield, MO 65897

(O) 417-836-7636

(H) 417-865-6866

(C) 417-496-7141

________________________________

From: edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com
[mailto:edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kearney
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:02 PM
To: edebate at ndtceda.com
Subject: [eDebate] Judging problems at the heart?

 

I figure that with the "legends" debating at the heart, the judging pool
could potentially take a hit. Is there a reason someone like Ozzy or
myself could not judge at the heart? I don't think i want to judge but
the idea of voting against Scott Harris is just TOO tempting to pass up.
:) 

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From andy.edebate  Wed Dec  6 21:52:27 2006
From: andy.edebate (Andy Ellis)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 22:52:27 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Judging problems at the heart?
In-Reply-To: <1CCBA609217926438CBBCDC5C19F899E56477C@blue.EDUBEAR.NET>
References: <9d4609f90612061902l1f648a72rbd9b1edce7e4acda@mail.gmail.com>
	<1CCBA609217926438CBBCDC5C19F899E56477C@blue.EDUBEAR.NET>
Message-ID: <9368bc9b0612061952s6f0a1f4cq504bafc52070ffb4@mail.gmail.com>

I know that i am often asked to speak on behalf of the entire community, and
it is in just such a role that i suggest that for the open heart its A-OK if
kearney or anybody else judges...

On 12/6/06, Morris, Eric R <EricMorris at missouristate.edu> wrote:
>
>  I think the trick here is the general community consensus that people
> with eligibility do not judge in the open division without implicitly
> foreclosing their eligibility. Thus, I'd be nervous about having my debaters
> (or other people's debaters) judging unless there was some way the community
> expressed an exception to that principle. Since I have no idea what THAT
> expression would look like, my gut instinct is that people planning to
> debate at other tournaments probably shouldn't judge at the open heart.
>
>
>
> Or, in the words of most Cubs and, until recently, Red Sox fans:
>
>             Wait till next year
>
>
>
> ?as a Royals fan, though, I know it will be more than a year?.
>
>
>
> This does raise several other questions, though?
>
>    1. Can you IMAGINE Harris in a post round discussion where HE, not
>    just his team, had been the ones LOSING the argument?
>    2. Wouldn't getting a win over Harris be WAY more tempting than
>    being the judge?
>
>
>
> Dr. Eric Morris
>
> Asst Prof of Communication
>
> Director of Forensics
>
> Craig Hall 366A
>
> Missouri State University
>
> Springfield, MO 65897
>
> (O) 417-836-7636
>
> (H) 417-865-6866
>
> (C) 417-496-7141
>    ------------------------------
>
> *From:* edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com [mailto:
> edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Kearney
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:02 PM
> *To:* edebate at ndtceda.com
> *Subject:* [eDebate] Judging problems at the heart?
>
>
>
> I figure that with the "legends" debating at the heart, the judging pool
> could potentially take a hit. Is there a reason someone like Ozzy or myself
> could not judge at the heart? I don't think i want to judge but the idea of
> voting against Scott Harris is just TOO tempting to pass up. :)
>
> _______________________________________________
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From kearney.debate  Wed Dec  6 22:16:14 2006
From: kearney.debate (Mike Kearney)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 22:16:14 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Judging problems at the heart?
Message-ID: <9d4609f90612062016t7e8b337boe8c1ea173a754e9c@mail.gmail.com>

ermo doesn't have to worry. my post was really just a bluff to jack-move
harris. thanks for spoiling my fun, ermo! haha. i guess i could always go
for "no value to life" as an impact arg. against harris. that could be
strangely fulfilling!
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From jakethompsondebate  Wed Dec  6 22:39:58 2006
From: jakethompsondebate (jacob thompson)
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:39:58 +0000
Subject: [eDebate] open heart open retreat
Message-ID: <BAY107-F3F62CA1FE6DB74CFAC031C5DC0@phx.gbl>

With great reluctance and apologies to my partner (in crime) Matt Gerber, I 
am officially renouncing my announcement of participation in the open heart.

My wife just reminded me that I have a previous engagement that weenend.  I 
am slated to preside over the wedding of my brother-in-law and his fiance.  
SERIOUSLY, I became an internet minister and promised to perform their 
ceremony.

On a related note, I am now available to perform all sorts of 
pseudo-religious ceremonies (for a small fee) , including, but not limited 
to weddings, civil unions, and perhaps exorcisms.  In addition, I now insist 
on being called "The Reverend Dr. Jake Thompson"

Sorry Gerber--I know how much you were looking forward to "slapping" harris 
around again.

Jake

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From mharris02  Wed Dec  6 23:43:46 2006
From: mharris02 (Martin Harris)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 23:43:46 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Heart entries?
Message-ID: <451372279EE24E4992ED27B99AC55773203351@EXVS1.drury.edu>

   If Scott Harris really were to enter the Heart, I think the real question is who gets to write THAT Heart book entry. This might be the best Heart book book EVER.
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From dave  Thu Dec  7 08:18:23 2006
From: dave (Steinberg, David L)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:18:23 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Great Reason to Attend the Augustana Tournament
References: <BAY101-W199DE0D2DCB5BCE6C56C6EBDD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B2BA593DA3EBE143A856ABA856D01F5D071C5562@EXCHANGE2.cgcent.miami.edu>

Weather Report (12/07)
 
Quad Cities Illinois, 10 degrees, feels like -5

Miami 77, feels like 77

 
David L. Steinberg, Director of Debate
 
University of Miami
PO Box 248127
Coral Gables, FL  33124
 
Wolfson Building #3015
305-284-5553 (office)
305-284-5216 (fax)
 
dave at miami.edu <mailto:dave at miami.edu> 

________________________________

From: edebate-bounces at www.ndtceda.com on behalf of Matt Moore
Sent: Wed 12/6/2006 4:31 PM
To: e debate
Subject: [eDebate] Great Reason to Attend the Augustana Tournament


So I started shopping for trophies- so far I have one:

http://augustana2007tournament.blogspot.com/

I will send out the pictures as we get more in.


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From micksouders  Thu Dec  7 10:05:13 2006
From: micksouders (Michael Souders)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:05:13 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] open heart open retreat
Message-ID: <899735480612070805l36a5d71esec8ae385519fbec6@mail.gmail.com>

 harris was just telling me how his entry would crush the division because
of the fear it would strike into the "hearts" of so many.  jake is the
first.  i predict kearney will be second to back out but the entire judging
pool might beat him to the punch.

after prelims and elims harris plans to go 12-0 against debaters, 2-0
against judges who sit out, and 5-0 against judges who vote for him but for
stupid reasons.

an aside: kearney beating harris might be sweet, but losing to him...would
you even be able to speak after rounds after such an event other than to
ask "thank you sir. may i have another?"  my guess is that you would never
win another round scott judged because, well, he wouldn't want to
lose his streak against you.

mick
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From EricMorris  Thu Dec  7 10:36:19 2006
From: EricMorris (Morris, Eric R)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:36:19 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] NCA 2007 Call for Submissions
Message-ID: <1CCBA609217926438CBBCDC5C19F899E5647E1@blue.EDUBEAR.NET>

Here is CEDA's call for the 2007 NCA Convention. The All Academic system
isn't up quite yet, but I wanted to get this out now that the call is
finalized in order to get everyone thinking about this over the break.
Last year, there were several excellent submissions. High submission
numbers are critical for us to maintain slots at NCA (we currently have
11), or perhaps be able to expand slots in the future. 

 

There are on-going discussions about the structure of the CEDA business
meeting at NCA, the topic paper submission process, etc., that could
impact the 2007 NCA. There have been requests to have the CEDA Business
Meeting in 2 back-to-back sessions in order to help with the time
limits, or to do the same with the EC and general business meetings.
There has been discussion of awards for the stronger topic papers. I
hope that the CEDA leadership and others will comment on these questions
in response to my post. 

 

If you have an idea for a panel, but lack collaborators, I encourage you
to post it! When I've done that in the past, I've often gotten several
responses. Even if you've never been to NCA, never presented, or never
assembled a panel, you should give serious consideration to doing so
this year. I will help walk you through the process if you ask. 

 

Even if you are an undergraduate, you are eligible to participate, by
either submitting an individual paper or being on a panel. While you may
have heard (correctly) that NCA is expensive, many undergraduates have
gotten support from their programs/departments/universities to be
involved in academic conferences such as NCA. Why not look into it?

 

Here is the formal call:

 

 

Cross Examination Debate Association
Dr. Eric Morris, Missouri State University, 417-836-7636
EricMorris at MissouriState.edu

The Cross Examination Debate Association invites submission of papers,
panels, or extended abstracts for the 2007 National Communication
Association Convention to be held in Chicago from November 15-18, 2007. 

CEDA encourages scholarship which promotes and develops understanding of
argumentation and debate in contexts including but not limited to
academic debate, political debate, legal argumentation, and debate in
the public sphere. Proposals for presentation and discussion of issues
important to competitive debate practice as well as argumentation
theory, philosophy of argument, advocacy, decision making, argument
across cultures and argument in applied contexts are welcomed, as are
interdisciplinary linkages within and beyond the Field(s) of
Communication. Submissions which address the Convention theme,
"Communicating Worldviews:  Faith-Intellect-Ethics," are also
encouraged.

All submissions must be made electronically through the NCA Convention
online program planning system (All Academic). The DEADLINE for
submissions is February 15, 2007. If you need assistance learning to use
the All Academic system, please contact Eric Morris at the above email
address.

 

Dr. Eric Morris

Asst Prof of Communication

Director of Forensics

Craig Hall 366A

Missouri State University

Springfield, MO 65897

(O) 417-836-7636

(H) 417-865-6866

(C) 417-496-7141

 

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From andy.edebate  Thu Dec  7 10:43:16 2006
From: andy.edebate (Andy Ellis)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:43:16 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Creating new opportunities for college policy debate
Message-ID: <9368bc9b0612070843n73a9fc7cq3e99e64debbefe20@mail.gmail.com>

I would like to do a panel on ways to reach schools &  students that are not
currently debating, any one interested
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From delliott  Thu Dec  7 10:45:04 2006
From: delliott (Darren Elliott)
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:45:04 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] open heart open retreat
Message-ID: <s577f0c1.014@netware.kckcc.edu>


Unusually silent in all of this is Malgor!  So I must assume he is
locked up in a secluded room somewhere sweating profusely, eating chili
cheese fries by the truckload, and wondering how the hell can he beat
Harris.  He is probably thinking all these years of trash talking the
Hawks will now come back to haunt him.  And I assume quite to the
contrary Harris continues on in his daily routines confident in the
knowledge that he will not succumb to any "dance" Malgor can perform.  

I disagree with Mick's assessment of Harris's record however.  I think
he loses a round to the "what school did you take your kids to today"
criticism.  : )

chief

Darren Elliott
Director of Debate--KCKCC
CEDA 2nd VP

>>> "Michael Souders" <micksouders at gmail.com> 12/7/2006 10:05 AM >>>
 harris was just telling me how his entry would crush the division
because
of the fear it would strike into the "hearts" of so many.  jake is the
first.  i predict kearney will be second to back out but the entire
judging
pool might beat him to the punch.

after prelims and elims harris plans to go 12-0 against debaters, 2-0
against judges who sit out, and 5-0 against judges who vote for him but
for
stupid reasons.

an aside: kearney beating harris might be sweet, but losing to
him...would
you even be able to speak after rounds after such an event other than
to
ask "thank you sir. may i have another?"  my guess is that you would
never
win another round scott judged because, well, he wouldn't want to
lose his streak against you.

mick

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From micksouders  Thu Dec  7 13:21:19 2006
From: micksouders (Michael Souders)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:21:19 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] open heart open retreat
In-Reply-To: <s577f0c1.013@netware.kckcc.edu>
References: <s577f0c1.013@netware.kckcc.edu>
Message-ID: <899735480612071121p23943426s7fd3c4a9e2edd4d5@mail.gmail.com>

>
> CHIEF SAYS:
> I disagree with Mick's assessment of Harris's record however.  I think
> he loses a round to the "what school did you take your kids to today"
> criticism.  : )




 wrong.  this is the definition of a non-unique disad.  besides, what's the
impact?  the NV2L?  ha!  harris has ev:

HOMERUNS = V2L
Harris, Every Single Tournament 05-Present
"That argument is so stupid.  And wrong.  I get value to life every
time bradley hits a homerun.  I should find them and tell them that.  Are
they gonna say my son has no value to his life?  Bet they won't say it to
my face. God, I love sports.   That argument is so STUPID."
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From hansonjb  Thu Dec  7 14:02:20 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:02:20 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] all fall tournaments: send in results to jon
Message-ID: <0b2101c71a3e$52f4fbf0$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

hey all

if you have not already, please get results from tournaments into jon bruschke as soon as possible and definitely by monday, december 11.

they need to be in so that they can be included in the fall ndt rankings report.

here's how to submit your tournament's results:
http://commweb.fullerton.edu/jbruschke/web/DebatePointsHelp.aspx

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From mancussp  Thu Dec  7 15:02:20 2006
From: mancussp (Steve Mancuso)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:02:20 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] another late night TV debate reference
Message-ID: <6B8AB013-5B37-4B8A-828C-3FC72D2FFFF9@muohio.edu>

Fresh off the mention of debate and Brett O'Donnell on The Daily Show  
this week, check out Colbert's interview with John Sexton last night.

>
> http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/videos/ 
> most_recent/index.jhtml

John Sexton coached high school debate through the mid-1970's (which  
was before my time).  He was widely regarded as a brilliant coach of  
some of the nation's best teams.  Maybe some of you older than I can  
offer details.

He was great on Colbert.  Check it out.
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From dbhingst  Thu Dec  7 15:18:15 2006
From: dbhingst (Hingstman, David)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:18:15 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] another late night TV debate reference
In-Reply-To: <6B8AB013-5B37-4B8A-828C-3FC72D2FFFF9@muohio.edu>
References: <6B8AB013-5B37-4B8A-828C-3FC72D2FFFF9@muohio.edu>
Message-ID: <C9ECF2BC-C8C3-4C16-ACB8-5549BB66311D@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>

John Sexton came from very modest circumstances.  He was the debate  
coach at St. Brendan's High School in Brooklyn, NY, an all-girls  
school that is now closed  He coached some of the finest policy teams  
in the country in the mid-70s, and they traveled across the country.   
It was rumored that he convinced the nuns in charge to require every  
girl at the school to cut cards as part of their homework!   He then  
went to Harvard Law School and participated in some of the events  
which are chronicled in the book "One-L."  John also started an  
extremely successful LSAT prep course that was eventually bought by  
Kaplan for several million dollars.  He clerked in the federal  
judiciary after law school, and then became a professor and later  
dean of the Law School at NYU.

Dr. Dave


On Dec 7, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Steve Mancuso wrote:

> Fresh off the mention of debate and Brett O'Donnell on The Daily  
> Show this week, check out Colbert's interview with John Sexton last  
> night.
>
>>
>> http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/videos/ 
>> most_recent/index.jhtml
>
> John Sexton coached high school debate through the mid-1970's  
> (which was before my time).  He was widely regarded as a brilliant  
> coach of some of the nation's best teams.  Maybe some of you older  
> than I can offer details.
>
> He was great on Colbert.  Check it out.
> _______________________________________________
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From les_phillips98  Thu Dec  7 16:43:00 2006
From: les_phillips98 (Les Phillips)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:43:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] another late night TV debate reference
In-Reply-To: <C9ECF2BC-C8C3-4C16-ACB8-5549BB66311D@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Message-ID: <20061207224300.30373.qmail@web90407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I was a high school debater in Connecticut, then as now a vast debate wasteland
-- but at least there were *some* teams at that time.  I was an undercoached
high school zealot who had found likeminded crazy persons, and we were
determined to run a tournament that would draw teams from the rest of New
England and New York.  We'd attracted a few.

Then, four days before the tournament, our home phone rang, and it was John
Sexton.  I didn't know who he was until he identified himself as the St.
Brendan's coach.  I certainly knew his teams and had been their victims (only
in presets) once or twice.  

And, because the deadline had passed, he said:  "I'm going to get down on my
knees and beg you to let us into your tournament."

That was a bit of rhetorical overkill.

  They came, and they conquered, conquered, conquered.  I watched them as much
as I could -- they were the first really *professionally* coached debaters I'd
ever seen.

And I'll never forget that phone call.  Needless to say, it was a great
pleasure to meet President Sexton at Emory, several years ago.

Les Phillips


--- "Hingstman, David" <dbhingst at blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> wrote:

> John Sexton came from very modest circumstances.  He was the debate  
> coach at St. Brendan's High School in Brooklyn, NY, an all-girls  
> school that is now closed  He coached some of the finest policy teams  
> in the country in the mid-70s, and they traveled across the country.   
> It was rumored that he convinced the nuns in charge to require every  
> girl at the school to cut cards as part of their homework!   He then  
> went to Harvard Law School and participated in some of the events  
> which are chronicled in the book "One-L."  John also started an  
> extremely successful LSAT prep course that was eventually bought by  
> Kaplan for several million dollars.  He clerked in the federal  
> judiciary after law school, and then became a professor and later  
> dean of the Law School at NYU.
> 
> Dr. Dave
> 
> 
> On Dec 7, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Steve Mancuso wrote:
> 
> > Fresh off the mention of debate and Brett O'Donnell on The Daily  
> > Show this week, check out Colbert's interview with John Sexton last  
> > night.
> >
> >>
> >> http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/videos/ 
> >> most_recent/index.jhtml
> >
> > John Sexton coached high school debate through the mid-1970's  
> > (which was before my time).  He was widely regarded as a brilliant  
> > coach of some of the nation's best teams.  Maybe some of you older  
> > than I can offer details.
> >
> > He was great on Colbert.  Check it out.
> > _______________________________________________
> > eDebate mailing list
> > eDebate at www.ndtceda.com
> > http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
> 
> > _______________________________________________
> eDebate mailing list
> eDebate at www.ndtceda.com
> http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate


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From mjschiss  Thu Dec  7 19:04:22 2006
From: mjschiss (matt schissler)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 17:04:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] Foy or delete
Message-ID: <778692.58814.qm@web31801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Glue - can you backchannel me? 
Thanks,
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From k-hamrick  Thu Dec  7 20:32:19 2006
From: k-hamrick (Kevin Hamrick)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:32:19 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] NU Needs To Hire at UTD
Message-ID: <3110E02E-B751-48FE-A623-5A434A62503C@northwestern.edu>

Your January credit card bill is likely to be ugly.

We need to hire a bunch of rounds.  Will pay cash at the tournament.

Let me know if you're interested.

K

Kevin Hamrick
Assistant Director of Debate
Department of Communication Studies
Northwestern University
1815 Chicago Avenue
Evanston, IL  60208
k-hamrick at northwestern.edu


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From anne.canavan  Fri Dec  8 08:34:59 2006
From: anne.canavan (Anne Canavan)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 08:34:59 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] NCA panel proposal
Message-ID: <c9d5a1990612080634h7329fc4bh2257cee62abc3779@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all-
I am considering putting together a panel ont he role of judge's in the
activity of policy debate activity.  Some of the questions we are wanting to
ask are "How do Judge's comments affect the way debaters percieve their role
in the activity?" "What benefits do oral critiques provide competitors?"
"How can we train our competitors to get the most out of interactions with
judges?"  "How useful are judging philosophies?" and "How can CEDA support
our current critics?"  Let me know if this sounds interesting to you, or if
you have more suggestions for this panel.
Have a great end of the semester!

-- 
Anne M. Canavan
Instructor, Assistant Speech and Debate Coach
Tennessee Technological University
931 529 0300
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From alfred.snider  Fri Dec  8 12:44:50 2006
From: alfred.snider (Alfred Snider)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:44:50 +0100
Subject: [eDebate] Videos from Koper Conference
Message-ID: <4579B2A2.70904@uvm.edu>

Here is some news about the videos I shot at the International 
Conference on Argumentation, Rhetoric, Debate and the Pedagogy of 
Empowerment in Koper a few days ago. They are now available on the 
Internet for anyone who is interested.

They are fairly large files, so a good Internet connection is advised. 
The best way to watch them is to download them (perhaps overnight) and 
then watch them with either QuickTime (a free download at 
http://www.apple.com/ <http://www.apple.com/>) or download iTunes (free 
at http://www.apple.com/itunes/ ). I suggest iTunes as the best way. 
Then watch and enjoy, play them for others, put them on a CD and share 
them, etc.

The videos available are:

Keynote on Argumentation by Peter Houtlosser, "Strategic manoeuvring: 
Conceptualisation and application"
http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/doctortuna/VideoBlog/B283E874-9E72-4D0C-8B0E-7ED1B60EEBC8.html

Keynote on Pedagogy by Alfred Snider, "Debate across the curriculum: the 
next phase"
http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/doctortuna/VideoBlog/B00EAC1C-9B22-4290-BE98-E8FA97949D16.html

Keynote on Debate by Steve Woods, "Debate and the liberation from fear"
http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/doctortuna/VideoBlog/5AEB64BD-AFDD-4B6F-B581-BF20EB3773E3.html

Panel Discussion: Ten Years of Debate in Slovenia
http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/doctortuna/VideoBlog/C50146E2-76D8-4030-BB5F-AE594B35EB04.html

Thanks again for taking part in the event. Over 120 attended and over 80 
papers were presented.

To see everything in my current online video library go to 
http://www.uvm.edu/~debate/watch/ <http://www.uvm.edu/%7Edebate/watch/>

To see the blog posting about the conference go to
http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/doctortuna/Blog/A0E40000-12F1-4A09-8F19-70A7FB39E9A8.html

Thanks again, and I will see you in the future.

Tuna

-- 
Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna
Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics
University of Vermont
Huber House, 475 Main Street, UVM, Burlington, VT 05405 USA
Global Debate Blog http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/
Debate Training site http://debate.uvm.edu
World Debate Institute http://debate.uvm.edu/wdi/
GATEWAY TO ALL THINGS DEBATE http://debateoneworld.org
802-656-0097 office telephone
802-656-4275 office fax



From alfred.snider  Fri Dec  8 12:52:31 2006
From: alfred.snider (Alfred Snider)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:52:31 +0100
Subject: [eDebate] Final round of International Debate Academt 06
Message-ID: <4579B46F.9010701@uvm.edu>

They are fairly large files, so a good Internet connection is advised. 
The best way to watch them is to download them (perhaps overnight) and 
then watch them with either QuickTime (a free download at 
http://www.apple.com/ <http://www.apple.com/>) or download iTunes (free 
at http://www.apple.com/itunes/ ). I suggest iTunes as the best way. 
Then watch and enjoy, play them for others, put them on a CD and share 
them, etc.

FINAL ROUND
http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/doctortuna/VideoBlog/917FAA82-DF1A-4F73-97A9-AC69FB458E51.html

To see everything in my current online video library go to 
http://www.uvm.edu/~debate/watch/

To see the blog postings about the academy go to
http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/doctortuna/Blog/DED15C12-49B1-42BD-9CF5-DC5C7CC006CE.html
and
http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/doctortuna/Blog/F6DA46DC-4560-448A-952C-911D7E5DBE2D.html

Thanks again, and I will see you in the future.

Tuna

-- 
Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna
Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics
University of Vermont
Huber House, 475 Main Street, UVM, Burlington, VT 05405 USA
Global Debate Blog http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/
Debate Training site http://debate.uvm.edu
World Debate Institute http://debate.uvm.edu/wdi/
GATEWAY TO ALL THINGS DEBATE http://debateoneworld.org
802-656-0097 office telephone
802-656-4275 office fax



From joepatrice  Fri Dec  8 12:54:34 2006
From: joepatrice (Joe Patrice)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:54:34 -0500
Subject: [eDebate]  another late night TV debate reference
Message-ID: <f7194f2d0612081054ubd15f6el4091547898421bbd@mail.gmail.com>

Just to add a tidbit I've always found amusing to Hingstman's post about
Sexton, his federal clerkships included a stint on the Supreme Court
clerking for Chief Justice Burger, who (if I recall the tale
correctly...it's been a couple of years since I heard it) came to refer to
Sexton as his "communist clerk" and swore that he'd always have at least one
clerk who was a communist for the rest of his career.
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From k-hamrick  Fri Dec  8 13:29:41 2006
From: k-hamrick (Kevin Hamrick)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:29:41 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] NU"S Hired Up for UTD
Message-ID: <11BC1804-FBA1-4E7F-ADBD-5B6D8CE1C4FE@northwestern.edu>

thanks for all the offers.  I think we're good now

K

Kevin Hamrick
Assistant Director of Debate
Department of Communication Studies
Northwestern University
1815 Chicago Avenue
Evanston, IL  60208
k-hamrick at northwestern.edu


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From jbruschke  Fri Dec  8 15:08:31 2006
From: jbruschke (jbruschke at fullerton.edu)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:08:31 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Kansas (Univ. of)
Message-ID: <06d901c71b0d$03aad2c0$be8d9789@AD.FULLERTON.EDU>

Name:Donn W. Parson Heart of America 
Starts:2/17/2007
Ends:2/19/2007
Hosted by: Kansas (Univ. of)
Contact: Sarah Topp
Address: 
Phone: 785-841-0575
On-line entry allowed: True
AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): False
Divisions Offered: 
Open  with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified
JV  with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified
Novice with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified
Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com
This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament.
If so, you will be notified by a separate email.


From iriamenzo  Fri Dec  8 15:10:32 2006
From: iriamenzo (Phillip Samuels)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:10:32 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Donn W. Parson Heart of America 2007 Invite
Message-ID: <BAY125-F4F83E9A2E225E109DC39BAFD30@phx.gbl>

Dear Debate Colleague:

The Kansas Jayhawks would like to cordially invite your teams to participate
in the Donn W. Parson Heart of America Tournament, to be held at the
University of Kansas on February 17th, 18th, and 19th 2007. We intend to 
offer Open, JV and Novice divisions. We will continue our fine tradition of 
warm hospitality and
?friendly? mocking. We have received verbal confirmation from many teams on
their intention to attend this year?s tournament, which means that there 
will be a good mixture of old and new. For this, we are very excited!

*Open Heart*

This year the open division will be truly an open division. We encourage 
people who have used up their official eligibility to enter the tournament 
as well as teams with eligibility. Hybrid teams are welcomed (and by hybrid 
we mean pairing debaters from different schools as well as debaters from 
different generations). We would like to have a tournament where new school 
meets old school. A number of people over the last year have expressed 
interest in debating at such a tournament. This year's legal topic provides 
the perfect opportunity for the many former debaters practicing law to 
return to debate for a tournament.

Our plan is to cut it back to a 6 round tournament to allow plenty of time 
for socializing in the evening and to ensure that some of our participants 
without the stamina they once had can survive the tournament.

Any team that enters must supply a judge.

*Heart Book*
As per tradition, we will again be assembling the Heart Book. The Heart Book
contains information about and photographs of tournament participants.
COACHES: Please fill out the following short form for all of the debaters 
you
are bringing to the tournament. Of course, feel free to take liberties with
your answers and editorialize where necessary. This is your time to show 
your
debaters how ?grateful? you are for them. Feel free to tell embarrassing
stories and provide humiliating information. (Of course, we reserve the 
right
to remove/censor any information that we deem to be inappropriate) we ask 
that special attention be paid to their entries.

Name:
Hometown:
Year:
Major/Academic Interests:
Other:

DEBATERS: Please fill out the following short form about your coaches.

Name:
Best Coaching Advise s/he has given you:
Other:

ALL: Please also feel free to send any photographs that the community would
benefit from seeing. All Heart Book entries should be emailed to sarah.topp@
at gmail dot com by 7PM, Thursday, February 9, 2006. We cannot guarantee 
that
later entries will make it into the final draft of the Heart Book.

Now, onto the boring stuff:
Fees:
The charge for each team is $100.00. This fee covers the cost of elimination
round rooms, coffee, donuts, bagels, the tournament booklet, 2 delicious
lunches, and other miscellaneous expenses. Schools should provide judges for
all teams entered in the tournament. Judges should have an undergraduate
degree or should have finished their college debate eligibility. One judge
covers two teams; uncovered teams will be assessed at the rate of $80.00 per
team. We would prefer that you provide judges rather than pay the fee, as 
our
judging pool may be limited.

Lodging:
We urge you to make hotel reservations at once. We are again using the the
Holiday Inn--Holidome as the tournament hotel. It has highspeed internet
access, a decently nice restaurant, mini-golf, foosball and ping pong; it 
also
allows pets. You should identify yourself as being a KU Heart of America
Debate participant when making reservations. The rate is $82 plus tax. If 
you have any problems getting this rate, either contact me or ask to speak 
to Ivan (he is our corporate contact). The Holidome?s address and telephone 
number are:
200 McDonald Drive
Lawrence, KS 66044
1-785-749-8921 or 1-785-841-7077

Of course, Lawrence offers many other lovely lodging options:
Baymont Inn and Suites 704 Iowa (785) 838-4242
Days Inn Motel 2309 Iowa (785) 843-9100
Eldridge Hotel 701 Massachusetts (785) 749-5011
Hallmark Inn 730 Iowa (785) 841-6500
Hampton Inn 2300 W. 6th St. (785) 841-4994
Holiday Inn Express 3411 Iowa (785) 749-7555
**Springhill Suites by Mariott 6th & New Hampshire (785) 841-2700 (This one
is nice and by many bars on Mass St.)
Super 8 515 McDonald (785) 842-5721
Travelodge Motel 801 Iowa (785)842-5100
Westminster Inn 2525 W. 6th (785) 841-8410

Transportation:
We will not be providing airport transportation. For transportation from the
Kansas City airport to Lawrence you can use Superior Shuttle (785)-838-4500.
You might also check out Affordable Limousine Service (785) 841-0463.

Tournament Expectations:
1. Debaters should expect to use the 20006-07 NDT/CEDA resolution.
2. We will offer 6 rounds of debate in Open and JV and 6 rounds in Novice
following the 9-3-6 format with 10 minutes of preparation time. We will hold
an appropriate number of elimination rounds based on the size of each of the
divisions. The first novice elim round will happen during round.
3. Pairings for Rounds 1 and 2 will be distributed at registration in the
Ramada. If we need to make any changes to the schedule, they will be posted 
by
11:00 P.M. immediately following the conclusion of registration.
4. Rounds 3 through 6 will be powered. Round 5 will be high-high; all others
will be high-low.
5. All debates, including elimination debates, will honor mutual preference
judge assignment. Let?s hope I do not mess up the number of judges for each
category again this year.
6. In each debate one team and only one team must be assigned a win and the
other team must be assigned a loss. Partial wins and losses or any 
combination
thereof will not be accepted by the tab room.
7. We will not break brackets for elimination rounds.
8. All elimination rounds will be flip for sides even for teams that met in
preliminary rounds.

Entry Procedures:
If you have any questions, please call (785) 864-9893 and leave a message on
the voice mail if you cannot reach anyone. We will be using the Bruschke
Online Entry System again this year. You should direct any questions first 
to
Phil Samuels phill.samuels at gmail.com, or Sarah Topp Sarah.topp at gmail.com  
and second to Scott Harris at sharris ku.edu.


>From the Jayhawks,

Phil Samuels
Tournament Director
1440 Jayhawk Blvd. Room 102
Bailey Hall
Communication Studies Department
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045

TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE
Friday, February 17, 2007
7:00-10:00 p.m. -- Registration and Reception. Holiday Inn--Holidome.
NOTE: WE HOPE TO HAVE PAIRINGS FOR ROUNDS 1 & 2 AT REGISTRATION. (This is, 
of course, dependent upon prefs getting entered early).

Saturday, February 18, 2007
8:00 - 8:30 a.m. Late Registration -- Fourth Floor Wescoe Hall - pairings
available for those schools who did not register on Friday. Bagels, donuts,
coffee, etc., will be available in Wescoe.
8:30 a.m. Round I
11:00 a.m. Round II
Lunch?Pizza Shuttle
3:00 p.m. Round III

Sunday, February 12, 2006
7:30 a.m. Pairings distributed -- Ramada Inn and Fourth Floor of Wescoe
8:30 a.m. Round IV
11:00 a.m. Round V
Lunch ?Yello Sub
2:30 p.m. Round VI for JV and Open/Elim 1 for Novice
6:00 p.m. First Elimination Debate/Elim 2 for Novice (dependent on judging
availability)

Monday, February 13, 2006
7:15AM?Pairings
8:30AM?Elims Begin (this time is firm
we NEED to be out of many rooms by 11AM)
All events at the Holidome
Awards to follow first elim.

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From iriamenzo  Fri Dec  8 15:20:34 2006
From: iriamenzo (Phillip Samuels)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:20:34 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] (Revised Dates) Donn W. Parson Heart of America 2007
	Invite
In-Reply-To: <BAY125-F4F83E9A2E225E109DC39BAFD30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY125-F39096885DEE4730B8486E9AFD30@phx.gbl>


I made a mistake and did not align the dates to teh current year--the dates 
for this years heart are Feb 17-19 2007 in Lawrence Kansas--The revised 
invite is below--hope to see you all there--Phil

Dear Debate Colleague:

The Kansas Jayhawks would like to cordially invite your teams to participate
in the Donn W. Parson Heart of America Tournament, to be held at the
University of Kansas on February 17th, 18th, and 19th 2007. We intend to 
offer Open, JV and Novice divisions. We will continue our fine tradition of 
warm hospitality and
?friendly? mocking. We have received verbal confirmation from many teams on
their intention to attend this year?s tournament, which means that there 
will be a good mixture of old and new. For this, we are very excited!

*Open Heart*

This year the open division will be truly an open division. We encourage 
people who have used up their official eligibility to enter the tournament 
as well as teams with eligibility. Hybrid teams are welcomed (and by hybrid 
we mean pairing debaters from different schools as well as debaters from 
different generations). We would like to have a tournament where new school 
meets old school. A number of people over the last year have expressed 
interest in debating at such a tournament. This year's legal topic provides 
the perfect opportunity for the many former debaters practicing law to 
return to debate for a tournament.

Our plan is to cut it back to a 6 round tournament to allow plenty of time 
for socializing in the evening and to ensure that some of our participants 
without the stamina they once had can survive the tournament.

Any team that enters must supply a judge.

*Heart Book*
As per tradition, we will again be assembling the Heart Book. The Heart Book
contains information about and photographs of tournament participants.
COACHES: Please fill out the following short form for all of the debaters 
you
are bringing to the tournament. Of course, feel free to take liberties with
your answers and editorialize where necessary. This is your time to show 
your
debaters how ?grateful? you are for them. Feel free to tell embarrassing
stories and provide humiliating information. (Of course, we reserve the 
right
to remove/censor any information that we deem to be inappropriate) we ask 
that special attention be paid to their entries.

Name:
Hometown:
Year:
Major/Academic Interests:
Other:

DEBATERS: Please fill out the following short form about your coaches.

Name:
Best Coaching Advise s/he has given you:
Other:

ALL: Please also feel free to send any photographs that the community would
benefit from seeing. All Heart Book entries should be emailed to sarah.topp@
at gmail dot com by 7PM, Thursday, February 9, 2007. We cannot guarantee 
that
later entries will make it into the final draft of the Heart Book.

Now, onto the boring stuff:
Fees:
The charge for each team is $100.00. This fee covers the cost of elimination
round rooms, coffee, donuts, bagels, the tournament booklet, 2 delicious
lunches, and other miscellaneous expenses. Schools should provide judges for
all teams entered in the tournament. Judges should have an undergraduate
degree or should have finished their college debate eligibility. One judge
covers two teams; uncovered teams will be assessed at the rate of $80.00 per
team. We would prefer that you provide judges rather than pay the fee, as 
our
judging pool may be limited.

Lodging:
We urge you to make hotel reservations at once. We are again using the the
Holiday Inn--Holidome as the tournament hotel. It has highspeed internet
access, a decently nice restaurant, mini-golf, foosball and ping pong; it 
also
allows pets. You should identify yourself as being a KU Heart of America
Debate participant when making reservations. The rate is $82 plus tax. If 
you have any problems getting this rate, either contact me or ask to speak 
to Ivan (he is our corporate contact). The Holidome?s address and telephone 
number are:
200 McDonald Drive
Lawrence, KS 66044
1-785-749-8921 or 1-785-841-7077

Of course, Lawrence offers many other lovely lodging options:
Baymont Inn and Suites 704 Iowa (785) 838-4242
Days Inn Motel 2309 Iowa (785) 843-9100
Eldridge Hotel 701 Massachusetts (785) 749-5011
Hallmark Inn 730 Iowa (785) 841-6500
Hampton Inn 2300 W. 6th St. (785) 841-4994
Holiday Inn Express 3411 Iowa (785) 749-7555
**Springhill Suites by Mariott 6th & New Hampshire (785) 841-2700 (This one
is nice and by many bars on Mass St.)
Super 8 515 McDonald (785) 842-5721
Travelodge Motel 801 Iowa (785)842-5100
Westminster Inn 2525 W. 6th (785) 841-8410

Transportation:
We will not be providing airport transportation. For transportation from the
Kansas City airport to Lawrence you can use Superior Shuttle (785)-838-4500.
You might also check out Affordable Limousine Service (785) 841-0463.

Tournament Expectations:
1. Debaters should expect to use the 20006-07 NDT/CEDA resolution.
2. We will offer 6 rounds of debate in Open and JV and 6 rounds in Novice
following the 9-3-6 format with 10 minutes of preparation time. We will hold
an appropriate number of elimination rounds based on the size of each of the
divisions. The first novice elim round will happen during round.
3. Pairings for Rounds 1 and 2 will be distributed at registration in the
Ramada. If we need to make any changes to the schedule, they will be posted 
by
11:00 P.M. immediately following the conclusion of registration.
4. Rounds 3 through 6 will be powered. Round 5 will be high-high; all others
will be high-low.
5. All debates, including elimination debates, will honor mutual preference
judge assignment. Let?s hope I do not mess up the number of judges for each
category again this year.
6. In each debate one team and only one team must be assigned a win and the
other team must be assigned a loss. Partial wins and losses or any 
combination
thereof will not be accepted by the tab room.
7. We will not break brackets for elimination rounds.
8. All elimination rounds will be flip for sides even for teams that met in
preliminary rounds.

Entry Procedures:
If you have any questions, please call (785) 864-9893 and leave a message on
the voice mail if you cannot reach anyone. We will be using the Bruschke
Online Entry System again this year. You should direct any questions first 
to
Phil Samuels phill.samuels at gmail.com, or Sarah Topp Sarah.topp at gmail.com  
and second to Scott Harris at sharris ku.edu.


>From the Jayhawks,

Phil Samuels
Tournament Director
1440 Jayhawk Blvd. Room 102
Bailey Hall
Communication Studies Department
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045

TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE
Friday, February 16, 2007
7:00-10:00 p.m. -- Registration and Reception. Holiday Inn--Holidome.
NOTE: WE HOPE TO HAVE PAIRINGS FOR ROUNDS 1 & 2 AT REGISTRATION. (This is, 
of course, dependent upon prefs getting entered early).

Saturday, February 17, 2007
8:00 - 8:30 a.m. Late Registration -- Fourth Floor Wescoe Hall - pairings
available for those schools who did not register on Friday. Bagels, donuts,
coffee, etc., will be available in Wescoe.
8:30 a.m. Round I
11:00 a.m. Round II
Lunch?Pizza Shuttle
3:00 p.m. Round III

Sunday, February 18, 2007
7:30 a.m. Pairings distributed -- Holidome and Fourth Floor of Wescoe
8:30 a.m. Round IV
11:00 a.m. Round V
Lunch ?Yello Sub
2:30 p.m. Round VI for JV and Open/Elim 1 for Novice
6:00 p.m. First Elimination Debate/Elim 2 for Novice (dependent on judging
availability)

Monday, February 19, 2007
7:15AM?Pairings
8:30AM?Elims Begin (this time is firm
we NEED to be out of many rooms by 11AM)
All events at the Holidome
Awards to follow first elim.

_________________________________________________________________
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From mharris02  Fri Dec  8 15:37:07 2006
From: mharris02 (Martin Harris)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:37:07 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Archive search capability
Message-ID: <451372279EE24E4992ED27B99AC55773E50792@EXVS1.drury.edu>

   I ain't hating, just curious. Is the search feature of the archives
going to come back at some point or does the new archive software
preclude that option?

 

Martin Harris
Computer and Graphics Support Specialist 
Hammons School of Architecture, Drury University 
Office Phone: (417) 873-7497

 

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From jbruschke  Fri Dec  8 15:42:29 2006
From: jbruschke (jbruschke at fullerton.edu)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:42:29 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by George Mason Univers
Message-ID: <06e301c71b11$c297c9f0$be8d9789@AD.FULLERTON.EDU>

Name:George Mason "Patriot" Debates
Starts:1/19/2007
Ends:1/21/2007
Hosted by: George Mason Univers
Contact: wdecker
Address: 4400 University Dr
Phone: 703-993-1093
On-line entry allowed: True
AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True
Divisions Offered: 
Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com
This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament.
If so, you will be notified by a separate email.


From regedebate  Fri Dec  8 15:56:50 2006
From: regedebate (David Register)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:56:50 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] WDI College Policy: Scholars Program
Message-ID: <8f08f7f30612081356w1e4e1d3eldd908a983a7329ac@mail.gmail.com>

Are you a competitive national debater looking for an extra edge in
your junior or senior year?



Are you interested in working with one the top coaches in the country
on a pre-season argument?



Do you enjoy teaching and assisting in the construction of innovative positions?



Are you willing to compete in the first web-cast debate on the 2007-08
CEDA/NDT Topic?



If the answer is yes to any of these questions, you should apply to
the WDI 2007-08 College Policy Scholars Program.


Selected WDI Scholars will receive a full tuition scholarship for the
long WDI session (there are now three sessions of varying length),
including housing, a meal-plan, and hard copies of the evidence set.
General information can be found at:
http://learn.uvm.edu/wdi/?Page=college.html#policy
<https://urmail.richmond.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://learn.uvm.edu/wdi/?Page=college.html%23policy>



WDI Scholars will work closely with lab instructors to produce
pre-institute arguments and will assist in instruction and guidance.
WDI Scholars will also have the opportunity to compete in a
demonstration debate on the first Saturday of the institute after the
release of the topic-the first web cast debate of the season.



To apply:



Email a short letter of interest, including your debate qualifications
(brief) and two references (names and contact emails for references
will suffice) to kevin kuswa at kkuswa at richmond.edu.  Please include
"WDI SCHOLARS" in the subject line of the email.  Come join us this
summer in Burlington.  Apply soon.



Sincerely,





The WDI College Policy Scholars Committee


David Register, Vermont

Sarah Snider, Kansas State

Kevin Kuswa, Richmond

http://learn.uvm.edu/wdi/?Page=college.html#policy
<https://urmail.richmond.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://learn.uvm.edu/wdi/?Page=college.html%23policy>


From spoon_22  Sat Dec  9 02:33:50 2006
From: spoon_22 (Aaron Hardy)
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 08:33:50 +0000
Subject: [eDebate] Make a couple bucks, help out a good kid...
Message-ID: <BAY123-F140F78036EDB6D4FD94C94FDD20@phx.gbl>

One of my HS campers from this summer asked me to forward this request...

He's looking to hire a coach/judge for the Jan. 4-7 weekend in Nashville, TN 
for the MBA tournament.  I got the impression they'd pay for transportation, 
lodging, etc... in addition to coaching and judging.

His name is Cody Forrester -- he debates for La Costa Canyon.  He's 
hard-working and enjoyable to work with.

If anybody's interested, drop him a line at rets4ydoc at cox.net

aaron

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From kkuswa  Sat Dec  9 11:01:02 2006
From: kkuswa (Kuswa, Kevin)
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:01:02 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] WDI College Policy: Scholars Program
References: <8f08f7f30612081356w1e4e1d3eldd908a983a7329ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<19C985294CCF2F498EEC7FF4A0320EA9025FAF3D@pollux.richmond.edu>
Message-ID: <19C985294CCF2F498EEC7FF4A0320EA9025FAF41@pollux.richmond.edu>

this is a chance for experienced debaters (non-seniors) who are interested in teaching debate to both teach AND get a head start on the college topic.  contact me, david, or sarah with questions.  (emails below).   thanks, kevin 

________________________________

From: edebate-bounces at ndtceda.com on behalf of David Register
Sent: Fri 12/8/2006 4:56 PM
To: edebate at ndtceda.com
Subject: [eDebate] WDI College Policy: Scholars Program



Are you a competitive national debater looking for an extra edge in
your junior or senior year?

Are you interested in working with one the top coaches in the country
on a pre-season argument?

Do you enjoy teaching and assisting in the construction of innovative positions?

Are you willing to compete in the first web-cast debate on the 2007-08
CEDA/NDT Topic?

If the answer is yes to any of these questions, you should apply to
the WDI 2007-08 College Policy Scholars Program.

Selected WDI Scholars will receive a full tuition scholarship for the
long WDI session (there are now three sessions of varying length),
including housing, a meal-plan, and hard copies of the evidence set.
General information can be found at: http://learn.uvm.edu/wdi/?Page=college.html#policy

WDI Scholars will work closely with lab instructors to produce
pre-institute arguments and will assist in instruction and guidance.
WDI Scholars will also have the opportunity to compete in a
demonstration debate on the first Saturday of the institute after the
release of the topic-the first web cast debate of the season.

To apply:

Email a short letter of interest, including your debate qualifications
(brief) and two references (names and contact emails for references
will suffice) to kevin kuswa at kkuswa at richmond.edu.  Please include
"WDI SCHOLARS" in the subject line of the email.  Come join us this
summer in Burlington.  Apply soon.

Sincerely,



The WDI College Policy Scholars Committee

 

David Register, Vermont  (dregiste at uvm.edu)

Sarah Snider, Kansas State (sjsnider at ksu.edu)

Kevin Kuswa, Richmond  (kkuswa at richmond.edu)

 

http://learn.uvm.edu/wdi/?Page=college.html#policy

 

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From Zompetti  Sun Dec 10 17:17:28 2006
From: Zompetti (Zompetti at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:17:28 EST
Subject: [eDebate] ISU debate position!
Message-ID: <d7.4201adfe.32adef88@aol.com>

 
If you will be  finishing your Master's degree this year or if you're 
interested in making a  change in your current position, you should consider coming 
to  ISU! 
We're finally able to  do conduct a search for a Director of Debate at ISU.  
I have posted this  position announcement before, but I?m posting it again, 
for the last time, now  that the season has died down a bit. 
If you?re interested,  please send as soon as possible the following: 
1.  detailed  letter of application 
2.   vita 
3.  copies of  transcripts  
4.  3 letters of  recommendation 
Send them  to: 
Cheryl  Budde 
4480  Communication 
Illinois State University 
Normal, IL  61790-4480 
FAQs: 
1.  What is  Normal, Illinois, like? 
ISU is located in Normal, Illinois (adjacent  to Bloomington) and is 45 
minutes East of Peoria, 45 minutes West of Champagne,  2 hours South of Chicago, 2 
hours East of St. Louis, and 2 1/2 hours West of  Indianapolis.  While  
Bloomington/Normal is a small Midwestern city, we have all of the comforts of a  
typical college town with a low violent crime rate and extremely affordable cost  
of living. 
What will the position  require? 
The Director of Debate position will be  responsible for the everyday 
coaching and management of our growing policy  debate program.  Currently we have 
three teams.  The DoD will be  expected to recruit from high schools, conduct 
practice debates, oversee  research assignments, manage the debate paperwork, 
organize debate squad and  team meetings, recruit and oversee a graduate 
assistant, plan and prepare a  tournament schedule, attend and coach at tournaments, 
and other duties typically  associated with coaching debate at this  level. 
Will I get to  teach? 
Yes.  The position is a  non-tenure-track (NTT) position that involves 
teaching 2 courses a semester in  addition to coaching responsibilities.  The types 
of courses taught will  mainly be introductory classes. 
Will this be my  program? 
Yes and No.  The DoD will be  responsible for the items listed above.  
Discretionary power will reside  with the DoD on coaching and administrative issues 
provided they are consistent  with the overall Forensics program at ISU.  ISU 
has a dual IE/debate  Forensics program, and the DoD reports directly to me as 
the Director of  Forensics.  In other words, the DoD will be working closely 
with me as the  program develops and grows.   
What is the  salary? 
Normal is a very, very, very inexpensive place to live.  The  salary for this 
position is competitive with other similar positions relative to  
cost-of-living.  It is also negotiable.  Talk to me personally about  this. 
What are the benefits  like? 
For more information on ISU employee benefits, you  can go to the ISU Human 
Resources page at _http://www.hr.ilstu.edu/_ (http://www.hr.ilstu.edu/) .  
Benefits are highly competitive with other State  universities.  The DoD will 
receive full medical and health insurance, as  well as other standard benefits. 
Any other questions????  Please ask  me!  Feel free to email me at this  
address. 
Joe  Zompetti 
DOF, Illinois State University 
*********************** 
Official  Call: 
Illinois  State University 
Normal,  Illinois 

VACANCY  ANNOUNCEMENT 
The  School of Communication at Illinois State University is looking for full 
and  part-time instructors for 2007-2008. 
COMMUNICATION               Teach courses such as Introduction to 
Communication,   
STUDIES:                              Interpersonal Communication, Small 
Group Communication,                                                Organizational 
and Professional Speaking, Interviewing or other                           
courses as needed.  May  include academic advisement and                         
                        responsibilities in communication                     
 laboratories.  Strong  commitment to                      general education 
is essential. 
JOURNALISM                       Teach reporting and/or editing classes on 
IBM and MAC  computers. 
PUBLIC  RELATIONS:          Position may include academic advisement and 
responsibilities in  communication computer laboratories. 
PHOTOGRAPHY/                 Teach photography and media courses.  May 
include academic   
MEDIA:                                   advisement and responsibilities in 
communication  laboratories. 
INDIVIDUAL  EVENTS:         Direct or assist in the management and coaching 
of a nationally ranked  speech team.  Also teach courses in  area of expertise 
such as Introduction to Communication, Small Group  Communication, 
Argumentation, Interpersonal Communication, and coach in a  broad-based Individual Events 
program. 
DEBATE:                               Direct or assist in the management and 
coaching of a nationally  competitive debate team.  Also teach  courses in 
area of expertise such as Introduction to Communication, Small Group  
Communication, Argumentation, Interpersonal Communication, and coach in a  broad-based 
Debate program. 
This announcement  is designed to build a pool of applicants to be drawn 
from, for temporary full  or part-time positions, during the 2007-08 academic 
year.  Applications will be accepted throughout  the year, and appointments will 
be made as needed.  Master's degree preferred, Bachelor?s  degree required, 
teaching and/or related professional experience desirable.  Salary is dependent 
upon qualifications. Initial appointment made as positions  and funding become 
known.  Initial  review of applications is continuous and will continue until 
all open positions  are filled.  To ensure full  consideration, send detailed 
letter of application, vita, copies of transcripts  and three letters of 
recommendation to Cheryl Budde, 4480 Communication,  Illinois State University, 
Normal, Illinois  61790-4480. 
Illinois  State University  is an equal opportunity/affirmative action 
university encouraging  diversity. 

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From dave  Sun Dec 10 19:28:09 2006
From: dave (Steinberg, David L)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:28:09 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Looking for Tom Preston
Message-ID: <B2BA593DA3EBE143A856ABA856D01F5D071C556B@EXCHANGE2.cgcent.miami.edu>

If you are Tom, or if you know to find him, please reply.  Thanks!
 
David L. Steinberg, Director of Debate
 
University of Miami
PO Box 248127
Coral Gables, FL  33124
 
Wolfson Building #3015
305-284-5553 (office)
305-284-5216 (fax)
 
dave at miami.edu <mailto:dave at miami.edu> 


From carlos  Sun Dec 10 22:57:39 2006
From: carlos (Carlos Varela)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:57:39 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Next DCUDL Tournament in Need of Judges-Dec 16
In-Reply-To: <el48ek+s45@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <C1A24F73.175A%carlos@dcdebate.org>

Hello edebate community,


Our next tournament is to be held December 16th. It will be held in Towson
University 
where we will be attending joint tournament with the Baltimore Urban Debate
League. We 
will be chartering a bus to leave from UDC, have three round of debating,
and return that 
same evening. We have 16 judging obligations total to fulfill so please let
me know if you are 
available. 

Also, thank you for joining the listserv for those of you who have had the
chance to do so. This will really help me consolidate efforts. For those of
you who would like to know about future DCUDL judging opportunities, you can
do so by going to this website and request to be added:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcudl_judges
With appreciation, 

Carlos Varela

 

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From scottelliott  Mon Dec 11 13:13:47 2006
From: scottelliott (scottelliott at grandecom.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:13:47 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Just in case you needed an impact extender
Message-ID: <1165864427.457dadebb338e@webmail.grandecom.net>


Small Nuclear War Would Cause Global Environmental Catastrophe

By Jeanna Bryner
LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 11 December 2006
08:12 am ET



SAN FRANCISCO?A small-scale, regional nuclear war could disrupt the global
climate for a decade or more, with environmental effects that could be
devastating for everyone on Earth, researchers have concluded.

The scientists said about 40 countries possess enough plutonium or uranium to
construct substantial nuclear arsenals. Setting off a Hiroshima-size weapon
could cause as many direct fatalities as all of World War II.

 "Considering the relatively small number and size of the weapons, the effects
are surprisingly large," said one of the researchers, Richard Turco of the
University of California, Los Angeles.  "The potential devastation would be
catastrophic and long term."

The lingering effects could re-shape the environment in ways never conceived. In
terms of climate, a nuclear blast could plunge temperatures across large swaths
of the globe. "It would be the largest climate change in recorded human
history," Alan Robock, associate director of the Center for Environmental
Prediction at Rutgers' Cook College and another member of the research team.

The results will be presented here today during the annual meeting of American
Geophysical Union.

Blast fatalities

In one study, scientists led by Owen "Brian" Toon of the University of Colorado,
Boulder, analyzed potential fatalities based on current nuclear weapons
inventories and population densities in large cities around the world.

His team focused on the black smoke generated by a nuclear blast and
firestorms?intense and long-lasting fires that create and sustain their own
wind systems.

For a regional conflict, fatalities would range from 2.6 million to 16.7 million
per country. "A small country is likely to direct its weapons against population
centers to maximize damage and achieve the greatest advantage," Toon said.

Chilled climate

With the information, Robock and colleagues generated a series of computer
simulations of potential climate anomalies caused by a small-scale nuclear war.

"We looked at a scenario of a regional nuclear conflict say between India and
Pakistan where each of them used 50 weapons on cities in the other country that
would generate a lot of smoke," Robock told LiveScience.

They discovered the smoke emissions would plunge temperatures by about 2 degrees
Fahrenheit (1.25 degrees Celsius) over large areas of North America and
Eurasia?areas far removed from the countries involved in the conflict.

Typically when sunlight travels through the atmosphere, some rays get absorbed
by particles in the air, before reaching Earth's surface. After a nuclear
blast, however, loads of black smoke would settle into the upper atmosphere and
absorb sunlight before it reaches our planet's surface. Like a dark curtain
pulled over large parts of the globe, the smoke would cause cool temperatures,
darkness, less precipitation and even ozone depletion.

At the end of the 10 years, the simulated climate still hadn't recovered.

Global upshot

The study showed it doesn't take much nuclear power to drive meteoric results.
Whereas the scenarios presumed the countries involved would launch their entire
nuclear arsenals, that total is just three-hundredths of a percent of the global
arsenal.

Will the conclusions result in worldly changes? "We certainly hope there will be
a political response because nuclear weapons are the most dangerous potential
environmental danger to the planet. They're much more dangerous than global
warming," Robock said.







From justinwkirk  Mon Dec 11 15:19:16 2006
From: justinwkirk (justin kirk)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:19:16 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Georgia CR
Message-ID: <eea2c24e0612111319k72be3f89gcdc9378a9d6fcbe7@mail.gmail.com>

Could you backchannel me?

-- 
Justin Kirk
UTD Debate
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From justinwkirk  Mon Dec 11 15:37:22 2006
From: justinwkirk (justin kirk)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:37:22 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Northwestern BC
Message-ID: <eea2c24e0612111337m62cfb121od74cf87935d751fc@mail.gmail.com>

Could you backchannel me?

-- 
Justin Kirk
UTD Debate
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From jpiddyedebate  Tue Dec 12 03:36:49 2006
From: jpiddyedebate (Josh Pang)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:36:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] Debate in LA TIMES
Message-ID: <20061212093649.36849.qmail@web56011.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Debate, "debate," Bruschke, Fullerton, The Ville, Dallas Perkins, factual inaccuracies, 
love, love, love, hate, love, and much, much more --- 
all on the FRONT PAGE of the LA Times today, baby! We came up!

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-debate12dec12,1,4655174.story?page=1




 
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From debate  Tue Dec 12 09:19:11 2006
From: debate (debate at ou.edu)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:19:11 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] UNT-UTD - Breaks?
Message-ID: <f639d5b47729.457e740f@ou.edu>

Hello,

I was wondering what your positions were on how the outrounds will break out at UNT and UTD.  (the directors not everyone)

Will you break half the brackets, or is there a limit on the number of outrounds you have chosen.

IE - UTD could go to partial triples by CEDA Rules, but the question is will this occur?

I am sure there are others who would like to know also.

Peace

Jackie


From blain  Tue Dec 12 10:42:43 2006
From: blain (Brian Lain)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:42:43 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] UNT-UTD - Breaks?
In-Reply-To: <f639d5b47729.457e740f@ou.edu>
References: <f639d5b47729.457e740f@ou.edu>
Message-ID: <457E87A3020000F000019C76@GWIA.unt.edu>

We will go to Partial Doubles in Open. 

Partial Octas in Junior (unless there are drops).

The Novice division only has 2 entries so far, so I believe we will
need to merge those teams in to the Junior division.

Please finalize your entries as soon as you can for what looks to be a
wonderful tournament at UNT. We will go seven prelim rounds in open
again this year so please correct your judging committments (4 rounds
for 1 team, 8 rounds for 2 teams).

I hope to turn the preferences on shortly after December 26.We look
forward to seeing everyone in Texas in January.

-Brian
>>> <debate at ou.edu> 12/12/2006 9:19:11 AM >>>
Hello,

I was wondering what your positions were on how the outrounds will
break out at UNT and UTD.  (the directors not everyone)

Will you break half the brackets, or is there a limit on the number of
outrounds you have chosen.

IE - UTD could go to partial triples by CEDA Rules, but the question is
will this occur?

I am sure there are others who would like to know also.

Peace

Jackie
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From SBauschard  Tue Dec 12 11:27:16 2006
From: SBauschard (Stefan Bauschard)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:27:16 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] looking for a judge in NYC this weekend
Message-ID: <200612121127.AA131150@pop3.planetdebate.com>

Saturday only
$100

http://www.regis-nyc.org/

Arrive at 9:15 am, leave around 5.

Stefan


From carrolltondebate  Tue Dec 12 11:30:12 2006
From: carrolltondebate (Joseph Carver)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:30:12 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Redlands Help
Message-ID: <dd6539040612120930y5053a55fg3b87096f374482a5@mail.gmail.com>

Can someone associated with the Redlands program please email me at
jcarver at carrollton.org

Joe Carver
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From smithr  Tue Dec 12 12:37:51 2006
From: smithr (Ross K. Smith)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:37:51 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media
Message-ID: <457EF6FF.5080007@wfu.edu>

in the LA Times: 
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-debate12dec12,0,2804352,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines

and is picked up in the blogosphere: 
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010378.php

-- 
Ross K. Smith
Debate Coach
Wake Forest University

336-758-5268



From jbhdb8  Tue Dec 12 12:54:25 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:54:25 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media
In-Reply-To: <457EF6FF.5080007@wfu.edu>
References: <457EF6FF.5080007@wfu.edu>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612121054h4a296130vf1a1c0ebeac44cf0@mail.gmail.com>

A funny aside,


Would most of you have predicted that I was one of the judges in the
following two rounds mentioned in the article:

1. A similar Cinderella story unfolded at Fullerton, where Bruschke,
Warner's former classmate, had assumed the helm. Bruschke stumbled onto
performance debating in 1997, when his team faced top-ranked Emory
University at a tournament. Arguing the topic of how to deal with unexploded
mines in Vietnam, a Fullerton debater unexpectedly transformed a discourse
on Jean-Paul Sartre and personal responsibility into a story about how she
was molested as a child. "I had no idea what she was doing," Bruschke said,
but somehow she tied it all back to mines. The audience was stunned.
Fullerton advanced to the final four, and Bruschke realized the power of
personal narratives.


2. Another contest pitted a Fort Hays student dancing with a chair against a
Northwestern team reading the script of "Dr. Strangelove." The topic was
federal control of Native American land.
"It was a wild debate," Shanahan said. "Strangelove" prevailed.



Josh



On 12/12/06, Ross K. Smith <smithr at wfu.edu> wrote:
>
> in the LA Times:
>
> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-debate12dec12,0,2804352,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
>
> and is picked up in the blogosphere:
> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010378.php
>
> --
> Ross K. Smith
> Debate Coach
> Wake Forest University
>
> 336-758-5268
>
> _______________________________________________
> eDebate mailing list
> eDebate at www.ndtceda.com
> http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
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From berchnorto  Tue Dec 12 12:59:18 2006
From: berchnorto (NEIL BERCH)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:59:18 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] UCO coaches?
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV144B6166D5946F0D7A8544D3D70@phx.gbl>

Would someone from the UCO coaching staff please backchannel?  I have a small bureaucratic question.  Thanks!
--Neil Berch
West Virginia University
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From smithr  Tue Dec 12 12:59:56 2006
From: smithr (Ross K. Smith)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:59:56 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media
In-Reply-To: <f6ec14bb0612121054h4a296130vf1a1c0ebeac44cf0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <457EF6FF.5080007@wfu.edu>
	<f6ec14bb0612121054h4a296130vf1a1c0ebeac44cf0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <457EFC2C.8000800@wfu.edu>

It was Gravity's Rainbow, not Strangelove, by the way. The error is not 
surprising since what NU was reading was never an issue.

On 12/12/2006 1:54 PM, Josh Hoe wrote:

> A funny aside,
>  
>  
> Would most of you have predicted that I was one of the judges in the 
> following two rounds mentioned in the article:
>  
> 1. A similar Cinderella story unfolded at Fullerton, where Bruschke, 
> Warner's former classmate, had assumed the helm. Bruschke stumbled onto 
> performance debating in 1997, when his team faced top-ranked Emory 
> University at a tournament. Arguing the topic of how to deal with 
> unexploded mines in Vietnam, a Fullerton debater unexpectedly 
> transformed a discourse on Jean-Paul Sartre and personal responsibility 
> into a story about how she was molested as a child. "I had no idea what 
> she was doing," Bruschke said, but somehow she tied it all back to 
> mines. The audience was stunned. Fullerton advanced to the final four, 
> and Bruschke realized the power of personal narratives.
>  
> 
> 2. Another contest pitted a Fort Hays student dancing with a chair 
> against a Northwestern team reading the script of "Dr. Strangelove." The 
> topic was federal control of Native American land.
> "It was a wild debate," Shanahan said. "Strangelove" prevailed.
> 
>  
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
> 
>  
> On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* <smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu>> 
> wrote:
> 
>     in the LA Times:
>     http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-debate12dec12,0,2804352,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
> 
>     and is picked up in the blogosphere:
>     http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010378.php
> 
>     --
>     Ross K. Smith
>     Debate Coach
>     Wake Forest University
> 
>     336-758-5268
> 
>     _______________________________________________
>     eDebate mailing list
>     eDebate at www.ndtceda.com <mailto:eDebate at www.ndtceda.com>
>     http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
> 
> 

-- 
Ross K. Smith
Debate Coach
Wake Forest University

336-758-5268



From jbhdb8  Tue Dec 12 13:01:15 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:01:15 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media
In-Reply-To: <457EFC2C.8000800@wfu.edu>
References: <457EF6FF.5080007@wfu.edu>
	<f6ec14bb0612121054h4a296130vf1a1c0ebeac44cf0@mail.gmail.com>
	<457EFC2C.8000800@wfu.edu>
Message-ID: <f6ec14bb0612121101g62d29702tf75f73ea9323804d@mail.gmail.com>

Well actually, in finals of Baylor NU did read Strangelove against Fort
Hays.....Probably a juxtopsition of two different debates.  I judged that
Baylor final.

Josh


On 12/12/06, Ross K. Smith <smithr at wfu.edu> wrote:
>
> It was Gravity's Rainbow, not Strangelove, by the way. The error is not
> surprising since what NU was reading was never an issue.
>
> On 12/12/2006 1:54 PM, Josh Hoe wrote:
>
> > A funny aside,
> >
> >
> > Would most of you have predicted that I was one of the judges in the
> > following two rounds mentioned in the article:
> >
> > 1. A similar Cinderella story unfolded at Fullerton, where Bruschke,
> > Warner's former classmate, had assumed the helm. Bruschke stumbled onto
> > performance debating in 1997, when his team faced top-ranked Emory
> > University at a tournament. Arguing the topic of how to deal with
> > unexploded mines in Vietnam, a Fullerton debater unexpectedly
> > transformed a discourse on Jean-Paul Sartre and personal responsibility
> > into a story about how she was molested as a child. "I had no idea what
> > she was doing," Bruschke said, but somehow she tied it all back to
> > mines. The audience was stunned. Fullerton advanced to the final four,
> > and Bruschke realized the power of personal narratives.
> >
> >
> > 2. Another contest pitted a Fort Hays student dancing with a chair
> > against a Northwestern team reading the script of "Dr. Strangelove." The
> > topic was federal control of Native American land.
> > "It was a wild debate," Shanahan said. "Strangelove" prevailed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Josh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* <smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     in the LA Times:
> >
> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-debate12dec12,0,2804352,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
> >
> >     and is picked up in the blogosphere:
> >
> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010378.php
> >
> >     --
> >     Ross K. Smith
> >     Debate Coach
> >     Wake Forest University
> >
> >     336-758-5268
> >
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     eDebate mailing list
> >     eDebate at www.ndtceda.com <mailto:eDebate at www.ndtceda.com>
> >     http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
> >
> >
>
> --
> Ross K. Smith
> Debate Coach
> Wake Forest University
>
> 336-758-5268
>
>
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From smithr  Tue Dec 12 13:12:19 2006
From: smithr (Ross K. Smith)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:12:19 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media
In-Reply-To: <f6ec14bb0612121101g62d29702tf75f73ea9323804d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <457EF6FF.5080007@wfu.edu>	
	<f6ec14bb0612121054h4a296130vf1a1c0ebeac44cf0@mail.gmail.com>	
	<457EFC2C.8000800@wfu.edu>
	<f6ec14bb0612121101g62d29702tf75f73ea9323804d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <457EFF13.2000203@wfu.edu>

Oh, OK. I saw the chair dance vs. literature at W Ga.

So, NU brought "new lit" to the table. Did the Fort change it up, too, 
or did they stick with critiquing the Tango like they did at W. Ga.?

On 12/12/2006 2:01 PM, Josh Hoe wrote:

> Well actually, in finals of Baylor NU did read Strangelove against Fort 
> Hays.....Probably a juxtopsition of two different debates.  I judged 
> that Baylor final.
>  
> Josh
> 
>  
> On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* <smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu>> 
> wrote:
> 
>     It was Gravity's Rainbow, not Strangelove, by the way. The error is not
>     surprising since what NU was reading was never an issue.
> 
>     On 12/12/2006 1:54 PM, Josh Hoe wrote:
> 
>      > A funny aside,
>      >
>      >
>      > Would most of you have predicted that I was one of the judges in the
>      > following two rounds mentioned in the article:
>      >
>      > 1. A similar Cinderella story unfolded at Fullerton, where Bruschke,
>      > Warner's former classmate, had assumed the helm. Bruschke
>     stumbled onto
>      > performance debating in 1997, when his team faced top-ranked Emory
>      > University at a tournament. Arguing the topic of how to deal with
>      > unexploded mines in Vietnam, a Fullerton debater unexpectedly
>      > transformed a discourse on Jean-Paul Sartre and personal
>     responsibility
>      > into a story about how she was molested as a child. "I had no
>     idea what
>      > she was doing," Bruschke said, but somehow she tied it all back to
>      > mines. The audience was stunned. Fullerton advanced to the final
>     four,
>      > and Bruschke realized the power of personal narratives.
>      >
>      >
>      > 2. Another contest pitted a Fort Hays student dancing with a chair
>      > against a Northwestern team reading the script of "Dr.
>     Strangelove." The
>      > topic was federal control of Native American land.
>      > "It was a wild debate," Shanahan said. "Strangelove" prevailed.
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Josh
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* <smithr at wfu.edu
>     <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu> <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu>>>
>      > wrote:
>      >
>      >     in the LA Times:
>      >    
>     http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-debate12dec12,0,2804352,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
>      >
>      >     and is picked up in the blogosphere:
>      >    
>     http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010378.php
>      >
>      >     --
>      >     Ross K. Smith
>      >     Debate Coach
>      >     Wake Forest University
>      >
>      >     336-758-5268
>      >
>      >     _______________________________________________
>      >     eDebate mailing list
>      >     eDebate at www.ndtceda.com <mailto:eDebate at www.ndtceda.com>
>     <mailto:eDebate at www.ndtceda.com <mailto:eDebate at www.ndtceda.com>>
>      >     http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
>      >
>      >
> 
>     --
>     Ross K. Smith
>     Debate Coach
>     Wake Forest University
> 
>     336-758-5268
> 
> 

-- 
Ross K. Smith
Debate Coach
Wake Forest University

336-758-5268



From adri.debate  Tue Dec 12 13:15:22 2006
From: adri.debate (Adrienne F. Brovero)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:15:22 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media
In-Reply-To: <457EFF13.2000203@wfu.edu>
References: <457EF6FF.5080007@wfu.edu>
	<f6ec14bb0612121054h4a296130vf1a1c0ebeac44cf0@mail.gmail.com>
	<457EFC2C.8000800@wfu.edu>
	<f6ec14bb0612121101g62d29702tf75f73ea9323804d@mail.gmail.com>
	<457EFF13.2000203@wfu.edu>
Message-ID: <50704d760612121115x207d862dw35064cf5d42576fb@mail.gmail.com>

Two different NU teams --

WGA - Haig/Morales
Baylor - Flaig/Garen

I don't remember all the details, but much less use of chair at Baylor
compared to WGA.

-Adri



On 12/12/06, Ross K. Smith <smithr at wfu.edu> wrote:
>
> Oh, OK. I saw the chair dance vs. literature at W Ga.
>
> So, NU brought "new lit" to the table. Did the Fort change it up, too,
> or did they stick with critiquing the Tango like they did at W. Ga.?
>
> On 12/12/2006 2:01 PM, Josh Hoe wrote:
>
> > Well actually, in finals of Baylor NU did read Strangelove against Fort
> > Hays.....Probably a juxtopsition of two different debates.  I judged
> > that Baylor final.
> >
> > Josh
> >
> >
> > On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* <smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     It was Gravity's Rainbow, not Strangelove, by the way. The error is
> not
> >     surprising since what NU was reading was never an issue.
> >
> >     On 12/12/2006 1:54 PM, Josh Hoe wrote:
> >
> >      > A funny aside,
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > Would most of you have predicted that I was one of the judges in
> the
> >      > following two rounds mentioned in the article:
> >      >
> >      > 1. A similar Cinderella story unfolded at Fullerton, where
> Bruschke,
> >      > Warner's former classmate, had assumed the helm. Bruschke
> >     stumbled onto
> >      > performance debating in 1997, when his team faced top-ranked
> Emory
> >      > University at a tournament. Arguing the topic of how to deal with
> >      > unexploded mines in Vietnam, a Fullerton debater unexpectedly
> >      > transformed a discourse on Jean-Paul Sartre and personal
> >     responsibility
> >      > into a story about how she was molested as a child. "I had no
> >     idea what
> >      > she was doing," Bruschke said, but somehow she tied it all back
> to
> >      > mines. The audience was stunned. Fullerton advanced to the final
> >     four,
> >      > and Bruschke realized the power of personal narratives.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > 2. Another contest pitted a Fort Hays student dancing with a
> chair
> >      > against a Northwestern team reading the script of "Dr.
> >     Strangelove." The
> >      > topic was federal control of Native American land.
> >      > "It was a wild debate," Shanahan said. "Strangelove" prevailed.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > Josh
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* <smithr at wfu.edu
> >     <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu> <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:
> smithr at wfu.edu>>>
> >      > wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     in the LA Times:
> >      >
> >
> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-debate12dec12,0,2804352,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
> >      >
> >      >     and is picked up in the blogosphere:
> >      >
> >
> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010378.php
> >      >
> >      >     --
> >      >     Ross K. Smith
> >      >     Debate Coach
> >      >     Wake Forest University
> >      >
> >      >     336-758-5268
> >      >
> >      >     _______________________________________________
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From jbhdb8  Tue Dec 12 13:18:15 2006
From: jbhdb8 (Josh Hoe)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:18:15 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media
In-Reply-To: <457EFF13.2000203@wfu.edu>
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Actually Fort Hays ultimately mostly went in on a version of topicality
called germaneness as I recall.

Josh


On 12/12/06, Ross K. Smith <smithr at wfu.edu> wrote:
>
> Oh, OK. I saw the chair dance vs. literature at W Ga.
>
> So, NU brought "new lit" to the table. Did the Fort change it up, too,
> or did they stick with critiquing the Tango like they did at W. Ga.?
>
> On 12/12/2006 2:01 PM, Josh Hoe wrote:
>
> > Well actually, in finals of Baylor NU did read Strangelove against Fort
> > Hays.....Probably a juxtopsition of two different debates.  I judged
> > that Baylor final.
> >
> > Josh
> >
> >
> > On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* <smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     It was Gravity's Rainbow, not Strangelove, by the way. The error is
> not
> >     surprising since what NU was reading was never an issue.
> >
> >     On 12/12/2006 1:54 PM, Josh Hoe wrote:
> >
> >      > A funny aside,
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > Would most of you have predicted that I was one of the judges in
> the
> >      > following two rounds mentioned in the article:
> >      >
> >      > 1. A similar Cinderella story unfolded at Fullerton, where
> Bruschke,
> >      > Warner's former classmate, had assumed the helm. Bruschke
> >     stumbled onto
> >      > performance debating in 1997, when his team faced top-ranked
> Emory
> >      > University at a tournament. Arguing the topic of how to deal with
> >      > unexploded mines in Vietnam, a Fullerton debater unexpectedly
> >      > transformed a discourse on Jean-Paul Sartre and personal
> >     responsibility
> >      > into a story about how she was molested as a child. "I had no
> >     idea what
> >      > she was doing," Bruschke said, but somehow she tied it all back
> to
> >      > mines. The audience was stunned. Fullerton advanced to the final
> >     four,
> >      > and Bruschke realized the power of personal narratives.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > 2. Another contest pitted a Fort Hays student dancing with a
> chair
> >      > against a Northwestern team reading the script of "Dr.
> >     Strangelove." The
> >      > topic was federal control of Native American land.
> >      > "It was a wild debate," Shanahan said. "Strangelove" prevailed.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > Josh
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* <smithr at wfu.edu
> >     <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu> <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:
> smithr at wfu.edu>>>
> >      > wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     in the LA Times:
> >      >
> >
> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-debate12dec12,0,2804352,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
> >      >
> >      >     and is picked up in the blogosphere:
> >      >
> >
> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010378.php
> >      >
> >      >     --
> >      >     Ross K. Smith
> >      >     Debate Coach
> >      >     Wake Forest University
> >      >
> >      >     336-758-5268
> >      >
> >      >     _______________________________________________
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> >     <mailto:eDebate at www.ndtceda.com <mailto:eDebate at www.ndtceda.com>>
> >      >     http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
> >      >
> >      >
> >
> >     --
> >     Ross K. Smith
> >     Debate Coach
> >     Wake Forest University
> >
> >     336-758-5268
> >
> >
>
> --
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> Debate Coach
> Wake Forest University
>
> 336-758-5268
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From jbruschke  Tue Dec 12 15:03:18 2006
From: jbruschke (jbruschke at fullerton.edu)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:03:18 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by CSU Sacramento
Message-ID: <088f01c71e30$f3160ac0$be8d9789@AD.FULLERTON.EDU>

Name:Western Novice and JV Nationals @ Sac State
Starts:3/9/2007
Ends:3/11/2007
Hosted by: CSU Sacramento
Contact: Kristen Hamilton
Address: 6000 J Street, Sacramento
Phone: 916.278.5489
On-line entry allowed: True
AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): False
Divisions Offered: 
Novice policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters
JV policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified
Open policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Not specified
Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com
This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament.
If so, you will be notified by a separate email.


From stannardmatt  Tue Dec 12 15:56:57 2006
From: stannardmatt (matt stannard)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:56:57 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] aaron hardy please
Message-ID: <BAY101-F39CF53129DC749ACB859BDD2D70@phx.gbl>

Hit me back, kind sir.  Couldn't find your email on the subscribers' list...

stannard

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From sac36967  Tue Dec 12 16:11:16 2006
From: sac36967 (Tudor, Kristen H)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:11:16 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Western Novice & JV Nationals @ Sac State
Message-ID: <DD325C926CA1ED4CBFCCA943AB520662330D8D@VSL2A.saclink.csus.edu>

December 12, 2006

 

Dear Colleagues:

 

On behalf of the Sacramento State University debate team and the Department of Communication Studies, I'm excited to invite you to participate in the 2nd Annual Western Novice & JV National Policy Debate Championship Tournament and Hornet Classic CEDA/NDT Open Division Warm-up to be held at Sac State March 9-11, 2007.  We will have six preliminary rounds of National Championship team policy debate in both novice & junior-varsity divisions, as well as a six round open division warm-up tournament for CEDA/NDT teams.  All divisions will have appropriate elimination rounds.  

 

We've secured a rate of $89.00 a night for rooms with two queen beds at the Hilton Sacramento Arden West.  This is a full service hotel with top notch amenities which is located near plenty of restaurants and is close to campus.  The block of rooms will be held until February 15, 2007.  The hotel is located at 2200 Harvard Street, Sacramento 95815.  You can book your rooms online at www.sacramentoardenwest.hilton.com or by calling 916.922.4700.  Access the group rate with the code SSU.  If you have problems, call Nancy Vasquez in sales at x1505 for help.  

 

I hope you'll consider adding this tournament to your spring travel schedule - we look forward to hosting you here in beautiful Sacramento.  If you have questions feel free to email me at khamilton at csus.edu. 

 

 

Kristen Hamilton Tudor

Director of Debate 
Sacramento State University

 

(916) 278-5489 (office)

(916) 278-7216 (fax)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tournament Information

 

Transportation:  The Sacramento Airport is about a 20 minute drive from campus and the tournament hotel.  There are plenty of rental car companies in the airport.   To get to campus or the hotel from the airport, take I-5 south, then merge onto highway 50 east towards South Lake Tahoe.  From there, follow directions below to either the hotel or campus.

 

The Hotel:  The Hilton Sacramento Arden West is located at 2200 Harvard Street in Sacramento, 95815.  The hotel phone number is 916.922.4700.  >From business 80 heading east, take the Arden Way exit.  Keep left at the fork in the ramp, going right onto Arden Way.  Go right on Harvard Street.

 

Campus:  Sac State's address is 6000 J Street, 95819. 

 

>From highway 50:  Take the Howe Avenue Exit, following the signs to CSUS.  After looping under the freeway, go left onto College Town Drive.  The second light will be State University Drive East - go right and continue on past a large parking structure until you see Lot 2 on your right (across from the bookstore)  - park in student parking (it's okay to park in lot 2 faculty on Sat/Sun).  You'll have to buy a permit for Friday, but not Saturday and Sunday.  Pairings and registration will be in Mendocino Hall, next to the bookstore.  

 

>From the hotel:  turn left onto Arden Way. At the large intersection, veer slightly left to stay on Arden Way.  Turn right onto Howe Avenue.  Turn right onto Fair Oaks.  Turn left onto Campus after you go over the bridge/river.  Go straight until you are forced to loop left, turning onto State University Drive East.  Park in lot 2 on your left, which is just past the theatre. 

 

Entry Info:  enter at debateresults.com

 

Tournament Procedures:  We will use the 2006-2007 CEDA/NDT topic with 9-3-6 speaking times.  We will adhere to CEDA guidelines for novice and JV eligibility.  Divisions will not be collapsed because this is a championship tournament in novice and JV.  There will be no breaking of brackets in elimination rounds.  

 

Fees:  The fee for each team is $85.00.  Each school is expected to provide one judge for every two teams entered.  The uncovered team fee will be $150.00.  Please bring extra judges - I'm sure we'll need them and will pay $25 per round.  Fees include breakfast on Saturday and Sunday, and lunch on Saturday.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Schedule

 

Friday, March 9th 

2:00-3:00:  Registration on campus - Mendocino Hall, 5th floor lobby

 

3:30:  Pairings for rounds 1, 2 released - Mendocino Hall

 

4:00:  Round 1

 

6:30:  Round 2

 

Saturday, March 10th

8:00am: Pairings released at the Marriott and at Mendocino Hall on campus.  Breakfast served on campus.

 

9:00:  Round 3

 

11:30:  Round 4

 

1:30:  Lunch on campus

 

3:00:  Round 5

 

6:00:  Round 6

 

9:30:  Elimination teams and judges posted at Marriott

 

Sunday, March 11th

8:00:  Pairings for elimination rounds released on campus and at Marriott.  Breakfast on campus.

 

9:00:  Elimination round 1

 

11:00:  Awards Ceremony

 

12:00:  Subsequent elimination rounds as needed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



From neesen  Tue Dec 12 16:38:56 2006
From: neesen (neesen at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:38:56 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media
In-Reply-To: <f6ec14bb0612121118r53dab07cr843ec4a34a709495@mail.gmail.com>
References: <457EF6FF.5080007@wfu.edu>	<f6ec14bb0612121054h4a296130vf1a1c0ebeac44cf0@mail.gmail.com>	<457EFC2C.8000800@wfu.edu>	<f6ec14bb0612121101g62d29702tf75f73ea9323804d@mail.gmail.com>	<457EFF13.2000203@wfu.edu>
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Message-ID: <8C8EC557189CF52-173C-50E6@FWM-D47.sysops.aol.com>

Yes they did. I really enjoyed that round. 
 
Also he messed up  and said I coached Long Beach when DP and Walid were here. Sorry that honor goes to Toni N.
 
Bill 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: jbhdb8 at gmail.com
To: smithr at wfu.edu
Cc: eDebate at ndtceda.com
Sent: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media


Actually Fort Hays ultimately mostly went in on a version of topicality called germaneness as I recall.
 
Josh

 
On 12/12/06, Ross K. Smith <smithr at wfu.edu> wrote: 
Oh, OK. I saw the chair dance vs. literature at W Ga.

So, NU brought "new lit" to the table. Did the Fort change it up, too, 
or did they stick with critiquing the Tango like they did at W. Ga.?

On 12/12/2006 2:01 PM, Josh Hoe wrote:

> Well actually, in finals of Baylor NU did read Strangelove against Fort
> Hays.....Probably a juxtopsition of two different debates.  I judged 
> that Baylor final.
>
> Josh
>
>
> On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* <smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu>> 
> wrote:
>
>     It was Gravity's Rainbow, not Strangelove, by the way. The error is not
>     surprising since what NU was reading was never an issue.
>
>     On 12/12/2006 1:54 PM, Josh Hoe wrote: 
>
>      > A funny aside,
>      >
>      >
>      > Would most of you have predicted that I was one of the judges in the
>      > following two rounds mentioned in the article: 
>      >
>      > 1. A similar Cinderella story unfolded at Fullerton, where Bruschke,
>      > Warner's former classmate, had assumed the helm. Bruschke
>     stumbled onto
>      > performance debating in 1997, when his team faced top-ranked Emory 
>      > University at a tournament. Arguing the topic of how to deal with
>      > unexploded mines in Vietnam, a Fullerton debater unexpectedly
>      > transformed a discourse on Jean-Paul Sartre and personal 
>     responsibility
>      > into a story about how she was molested as a child. "I had no
>     idea what
>      > she was doing," Bruschke said, but somehow she tied it all back to 
>      > mines. The audience was stunned. Fullerton advanced to the final
>     four,
>      > and Bruschke realized the power of personal narratives.
>      >
>      >
>      > 2. Another contest pitted a Fort Hays student dancing with a chair 
>      > against a Northwestern team reading the script of "Dr.
>     Strangelove." The
>      > topic was federal control of Native American land.
>      > "It was a wild debate," Shanahan said. "Strangelove" prevailed. 
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Josh
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On 12/12/06, *Ross K. Smith* < smithr at wfu.edu
>     <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu> <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu <mailto:smithr at wfu.edu>>> 
>      > wrote:
>      >
>      >     in the LA Times:
>      >
>     http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-debate12dec12,0,2804352,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
>      >
>      >     and is picked up in the blogosphere:
>      >
>     http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010378.php
>      >
>      >     --
>      >     Ross K. Smith
>      >     Debate Coach
>      >     Wake Forest University 
>      >
>      >     336-758-5268
>      >
>      >     _______________________________________________
>      >     eDebate mailing list
>      >     eDebate at www.ndtceda.com <mailto:eDebate at www.ndtceda.com>
>     <mailto:eDebate at www.ndtceda.com <mailto: eDebate at www.ndtceda.com>>
>      >     http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/edebate
>      >
>      >
>
>     -- 
>     Ross K. Smith
>     Debate Coach
>     Wake Forest University
>
>     336-758-5268
>
>

--
Ross K. Smith
Debate Coach
Wake Forest University

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From dbuescher  Tue Dec 12 17:19:45 2006
From: dbuescher (Derek T Buescher)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:19:45 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Western States Tournament Invite
Message-ID: <BACC524A84C53140BAEED3EA022FD21C013FFBC6@EXCH1.pugetsound.edu>

Hello, All
 
Pasted below is the invite for the annual Western States Communication Association (WFA) tournament. This year's tournament will be in downtown Seattle in the beautiful Crowne Plaza Hotel only two blocks from the conference hotel. We will be offering three forms of debate--NPDA Parli, Worlds Parli, and Policy. Policy looks to have a healthy mid-level offering with teams likely from Gonzaga, Whitman, Puget Sound, Pepperdine, Weber, U. Washington, Portland State and others I am probably forgetting at the moment.
 
Please join us! I will list the tournament on Jon's site shortly.
 
Derek Buescher
 
 
 

Western States Communication Association Forensic Tournament

Seattle, Washington


February 16-18, 2007


 

            In conjunction with Whitman College, the Western Forensics Association is pleased to invite you to the Western States Communication Association Annual Forensic Tournament to be held in Seattle, Washington February, 16-18, 2007. Many forensic directors attend the WSCA conference following the tournament and some even provide an opportunity for some of their students to do the same. The WSCA tournament is designed to provide excellent competition for your students as well as academic enrichment for yourself, other members of your forensic staff, as well as your students.  We hope you will be able to take advantage of this excellent opportunity.        

 

            This year's WSCA forensic tournament will be at the Crowne Plaza Hotel in downtown Seattle, Washington. The hotel location, two blocks from the conference hotel, enables faculty and student integration between the tournament and the conference. We will continue to work with the WSCA Executive Council to enable you and your students opportunities to participate in both the tournament and the conference. 

 

            NB: We will likely offer World's Style debate at the tournament. The exact details on judges, fees, etc. will be forthcoming. 

 

Tournament Hotel

 

            The tournament hotel is the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Seattle. We have negotiated a rate of $129.00 per room (plus tax). This rate applies for one or four persons per room with a surcharge of $20.00 for each additional person and $25.00 rollaway charge.  Although the rate is higher than we have paid in the past, it is an exceptional rate for a downtown location. In addition, the Crowne Plaza was the only hotel in the greater Seattle area that could accommodate the tournament needs for space. Group rates are available three days prior to and three days post the actual meeting dates. You may wish to take advantage of the Crowne Plaza rates (less than the conference hotel) if you plan to stay in Seattle for the WSCA conference. Because competition takes place in the hotel, all schools are required to stay at the Crowne Plaza provide hotel and provide rooms for competition use. You must supply one room for every grouping of 1-2 debate teams and 1-6 individual event entries. Rooms to be used for competition must be available from 8:00 am on Friday, February 16 through the end of the tournament.  Accordingly, the room must be reserved starting no later than Thursday, February 15, 2007.  

 

            Each school is responsible to make their own reservations at the hotel.  The reservation deadline is January 26, 2007. Our block of room will be released on after this date and the rates will become much more expensive. To make reservations call the Hotel reservations department at 800-521-2762. To receive the contract rates, the attendees should identify the group as "Western States Forensics Speech and Debate Tournament." 

 

            

Tournament Staff

 

            The WSCA Speech Activities Coordinator is Derek Buescher.  Jim Hanson will run parliamentary debate tab. Matt Taylor will run individual event tab. Melissa Franke and Robert Trapp will assist tabulation. In the event "World's Style" debate is offered a tab manager will be announced.

 

Entries

 

The entry deadline is 5:00 p.m. Monday, February 12, 2007.  Entries should be emailed to dbuescher at ups.edu or faxed to 253-879-6111. Any changes after Wednesday, February 15 should be e-mailed to the above address or faxed to Derek Buescher at the Crowne Plaza Hotel-206-223-3750. 

 

Eligibility and Divisions

 

Any regularly enrolled undergraduate college student may represent the school at which they are pursuing a degree. In individual events, students may participate in open division, but only those students with less than four semesters of collegiate competition in individual events may participate in junior division. Similarly, all debaters may compete in open division. Only those students with less than four full semesters of college debate experience may participate in junior division.

 

 

Individual Events:

 

The WSCA tournament follows the rules of the AFA NIET. Students may enter a maximum of three individual events per pattern, and only two if one of the events is extemp. Students with multiple entries in a pattern are responsible for getting to their competition rooms on time. Please keep in mind this is a "vertical tournament" dependent upon elevators to access rooms. The tabulation staff will make every effort to localize competition rooms, but this may be out of our control. It is the student's responsibility to make it within the allotted time to their events.

 

Pattern A: Extemp, Informative, CA, DI, POI, Poetry  

Pattern B: Impromptu, Persuasive, ADS, Prose, Duo

 

 

Debate

 

As an experiment, this year we will offer two styles of debate.  We will offer the standard NPDA debate along with 4-team debate (also called World Universities Debate or British Parliamentary Debate).  Only four total teams, designated at registration, may earn sweepstakes points. NPDA Debate will follow the rules of the National Parliamentary Debate Association.  World's Style debate is contingent upon sufficient entries. 

 

 

Judges

            

Finding qualified judges is frequently a problem at the WSCA tournament.  We will gladly hire you if you can judge beyond your commitment. If you know of qualified individuals who would like to be hired, please have them contact the Speech Activities Coordinator.

 

Each institution must provide at least one qualified judge. Judges must possess a BA or equivalent degree, or obtain Speech Activities Coordinator's prior approval. One judge covers two debate teams and six IE slots. Each school must provide a judge to cover the first two debate teams and the first four IE slots. A judge may be hired through the tournament to cover an institution's additional entries. In the event the tournament is unable to provide judging to cover a school's entries, the school may be required to withdraw students from competition. If you have a particular problem meeting your institution's judging requirements contact the Speech Activities Coordinator.

 

Fees

 

 

We are trying to keep fees low, but hired judges are very expensive. In addition, we were unable to negotiate free access to the tab room and meeting rooms in the hotel.  For this reason, we have been forced to add a facilities fee to cover this expense. 

                                                 

School fee                                $50.00 per school

Facility fee                                $50.00 per school

Debate entry fee                       $50.00 per team

Individual event entry fee           $ 7.00 per contestant per event

Hired debate judges                  $75.00 per uncovered debate team (one judge covers two teams)

Hired events judges                  $15.00 per uncovered IE slot (one judge covers 6 slots)

 

Fees will be assessed as of 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, February 13, 2007

Please make checks payable to University of Puget Sound.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Schedule

 

Friday, February 16, 2007

8:30                 Pattern A, Round 1

10:00               Pattern A, Round 2

11:30               Pattern A, Round 3

1:00                 Lunch

2:00                 Parli, Policy, and Worlds Round 1

3:30                 Pattern B, Round 1

5:00                 Parli, Policy and Worlds Round 2

6:30                 Pattern B, Round 2

 

Saturday, February 17, 2008

8:30                 Parli, Policy, and Worlds Round 3

10:00               Pattern B, Round 3

11:30              Parli and Policy Round 4 (policy will eat lunch before this)

1:00                 Lunch

2:00                 IE Finals

2:30                 Policy Round 5

3:30                 Parli Round 5 and Worlds Round 4

5:30                 Parli and Policy Round 6 and Worlds Round 5

 

Sunday, February 18, 2006

8:30                 First Debate Elim

10:00               Parli and Worlds 2nd Elim 

11:30               Awards (IE Awards may occur on Saturday evening prior to Round 6)

12:15               Policy 2nd Elim, Parli and Worlds 3rd Elim 

2:00                 Parli and Worlds 4th Elim (continue Elim debates as necessary)

3:00                 Policy 3rd Elim 

 

 

Awards

 

Awards will be presented to finalists in all events. Sweepstakes awards will be presented for debate, individual events, and overall excellence. Sweepstakes awards will be based on the following point system:

 

1st place IE                                                                  9 points

2nd place IE                                                                 7 points

3rd place IE                                                                 4 points

Finalists IE                                                                    2 points

Worlds, Policy, or Parli debate First Place                    20 points

Worlds, Policy, or Parli debate Second Place                16 points

Worlds, Policy, or Parli debate semi-finalist                   10 points

Worlds, Policy, or Parli debate quarter-finalist   6 points

Worlds, Policy, or Parli debate octa-finalist                   2 points

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From jbruschke  Tue Dec 12 17:32:07 2006
From: jbruschke (jbruschke at fullerton.edu)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:32:07 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Tournament invitation hosted by Puget Sound
Message-ID: <08b301c71e45$bd376790$be8d9789@AD.FULLERTON.EDU>

Name:WFA Annual Tournament
Starts:2/16/2007
Ends:2/18/2007
Hosted by: Puget Sound
Contact: Derek Buescher
Address: 
Phone: 253-879-3272
On-line entry allowed: True
AFA Open tournament (open to non-AFA members): True
Divisions Offered: 
Open Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Quarters
Junior Policy with 6 prelims, expected to clear to: Semis
Other details are available at: http://www.debateresults.com
This tournament may be offered in conjunction with an individual events tournament.
If so, you will be notified by a separate email.


From scottaherndon  Tue Dec 12 18:19:14 2006
From: scottaherndon (Scott Herndon)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:19:14 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] UTD Breaks & Tournament Update #1
Message-ID: <BAY119-DAV9F393BD02E560D8400678A5D60@phx.gbl>

Hello all. Here are the first round of UTD tournament updates:

 

1. UTD breaks - I sent this to Jackie earlier and I'm reposting it now for
others who are interested:

 

We will go to a full double (unless there are drops) in open. The maximum
number of teams clearing will be 32. We simply don't have time in the
schedule or the rooms to host a partial triple. 

 

Here is the relevant information from the invite: 

 

The teams advancing to the Elimination rounds will be determined by the
following criteria: The top half of the Open teams will clear. Each team
must have a winning record (4 or more wins) in order to advance, even if
that results in a total that is slightly less than half of all Open teams.
The maximum number of Open teams advancing will be 32. We will also hold an
appropriate number of elimination rounds in Junior Varsity and Novice
divisions.

 

We will clear half the field in JV, providing they have a record of 3-3 or
better. No teams with a losing record will advance. 

 

2. I would like to encourage everyone to finalize their judging ASAP. We are
very excited to be as large as we are this year and want to thank the
community for supporting the Texas Two Step. Both UTD and UNT are happy to
see our numbers and the quality of the competition growing. However, as a
result we are going to be very tight on judging. This will especially be
true round 7 when we have the last prelim in the open division and the
partial Octo for JV. In many cases (I say, as I browse over the Bruschke
site) schools have yet to enter their judges. So, here is our appeal: please
finalize teams and judges as soon as possible so we can have a better idea
of how many hired and additional judges we'll need to make the Fear and
Loathing run as smoothly as possible. We will be closing the Bruschke system
at high noon on the 4th of January. I'll assume that your teams and judging
numbers have been checked over and are final at that time. If there are
changes that need to be made AFTER 12:00pm on the 4th  of January,  please
send them to Scott Herndon (scott.herndon at utdallas.edu). 

 

3. The novice division currently has only one team entered. We'd love to
offer three divisions of debate - please enter your novice teams ASAP so we
can order trophies for that division. If we do not get enough entries to
justify a separate division we will collapse JV and Novice into a single
division. 

 

4. The Hotel block at the Westin ends this Friday. This means that if you
have not finalized your reservation by THIS FRIDAY you are no longer
guaranteed to get rooms at the block rate. We strongly encourage you to take
advantage of low room rate at the tournament hotel and make your
reservations soon!

 

5. One minor change from the tournament invite is the procedure for
assessing fees for uncovered rounds. Instead of the $130.00 per uncovered
team, we will institute a fee of $30.00 per uncovered round. As we have
said, we don't come close to making a profit on this tournament and the
$30.00 will go directly to hiring and/or bribing judges to fill the
uncovered commitments. As I said above, we are going to be tight on judges.
So please, pretty please, bring or hire enough to cover your commitment. If
not, be advised of the new fee system. 

 

6. We will have internet access on campus this year! I will be posting a
separate note regarding pre-tournament security procedures for the internet
soon. 

 

7. Finally, we are in the process of making the food orders, so please
finalize your vegetarian/vegan/omnivore preferences on the Bruschke system
ASAP. Yes, the breakfast burritos will be back!

 

Let me or Chris know if you have any questions. Hope the break is going
well. We look forward to seeing you in Dallas in January. 

 

Scott 

 

 

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From hansonjb  Wed Dec 13 03:13:56 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:13:56 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] ndt points, draft 1
Message-ID: <052b01c71e97$05730ef0$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

hi all

i've posted the ndt fall ranking report BUT note that it needs 3 adjustments:
1. cc rankings need to be included
2. whitman and berkeley tournament checks so that elim points aren't counted for the host schools
3. app. state results need to be entered
--i plan to do those tomorrow, wed, dec. 13

if you see any other errors, email me with a specific description of the error.

to view the report, go to:
http://www.whitman.edu/rhetoric/ndt/

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From jane.munksgaard  Wed Dec 13 10:35:51 2006
From: jane.munksgaard (Jane Munksgaard)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:35:51 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] "performance" debate hits the media
Message-ID: <fcc0f13c0612130835w6f51c62csa97eb0e692a807f6@mail.gmail.com>

"I really did believe it was an incident of domestic abuse," said the
judge, Orion Steele, a professor at the University of Redlands."

professor Orion Steele?

yet another nice piece of work by the LA Times.

***************************************************
Jane Munksgaard
University of Iowa


From jwpatt00  Wed Dec 13 12:40:36 2006
From: jwpatt00 (JW Patterson)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:40:36 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] TOC QUALIFIERS: GLENBROOKS, GEORGE MASON, USC, AND ALTA
Message-ID: <C1A5B354.2AEB1%jwpatt00@uky.edu>

PLEASE NOTE: APPLICATIONS FOR AT-LARGE BIDS MUST BE IN LEXINGTON BY MARCH
15, 2007. PLEASE NOTE, NOT POSTMARKED ON THIS DATE, BUT IN LEXINGTON BY THIS
DATE. 
 
THE ROAD TO THE 2007 TOC

DATES: SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY

MAY 5,  MAY 6, MAY 7, 2007
  


NEW TOURNAMENT HOTEL - ?RADISSON PLAZA HOTEL?
Located Downtown
(Special Rate: $95 a night, up to four people;
(859) 231-9000; Ask for reservations, then mention UK Debate; After 5:00 P.M
call (800) 333-3333)
FREE PARKING! Including vans and busses.
FREE WIRELESS INTERNET!

 DISCLAIMER:  THE RESULTS POSTED FROM EACH TOURNAMENT ARE ALWAYS SUBJECT TO
 CHANGE IF THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR REPORTS THAT A MISTAKE WAS MADE IN THE
 ORIGINAL CERTIFICATION.  IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE NAMES ARE SPELLED
AS 
 REPORTED BY THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR AND ARE SUBJECT TO CORRECTION IF A
 MISSPELLING HAS APPEARED.
 
 1) TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS PLEASE NOTE: WHEN CERTIFYING THE TOC QUALIFIERS
PLEASE 
 INCLUDE FULL NAME, SCHOOL, AND STATE OF THE DEBATERS.
 
 2) COACHES AND DEBATERS PLEASE NOTE:  A DEBATER IN LD OR A TEAM IN POLICY
MUST 
 ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN A QUALIFYING ROUND TO RECEIVE A TOC 'BID.' IN OTHER
 WORDS, IF A DEBATER OR TEAM DOES NOT DEBATE THE ROUND FOR WHATEVER REASON
THEY 
CANNOT RECEIVE A TOC 'BID' FOR THAT ROUND. THIS REQUIREMENT WAS
OVERWHELMINGLY 
 RECOMMENDED BY THE TOC ADVISORY COMMITTEE .

NOTE: AN ASTERICK INDICATES A GHOST BID

The Glenbrooks (IL)

Christina Tallungan and Tara Tate, co-directors of The 2006 Glenbrooks,
certify the following as bids to The Tournament of Champions. The Glenbrooks
is a qualifier at the Octafinals level in Policy, LD, and Public Forum
debate. In addition, the tournament is a qualifier for Student Congress at
the Finals level. Public Forum and Congress results will be certified at a
later date. 

POLICY

    Matt Senghas/Evan Johnson, Burlington (VT)
    Ian Hemley/Spencer Wright, Burlington (VT)
    RJ Giglio/Cameron Goldsmith, Caddo Magnet (LA)
    Eli Jacobs/Parker Cronin, Centerville (OH)
    Samurai Mehling/Candice Yip, Chattahoochee (GA)
    Karina Piser/Bon Koo, College Prep (CA)
    James Hamraie/Evan Defilippis, Colleyville Heritage (TX)
    Olivia Rogan/Nick Rogan, Greenhill (TX)
    Matt Andrews/Bryant Huang, Greenhill (TX)
    Jonathan Warsh/Sara Kirsch, Groves (MI)
    Jackie Hattier/Kate Hauser, Miami Palmetto (FL)
    Jamie Berk/Kyle Davis, Montgomery Bell Academy (TN)
    Simi Chaudhry/Michael Fields, Pace Academy (GA)
    Megan Swenson/Ana Nikolic, Wayzata (MN)
    Stephen Weil/Anshu Sathian, Westminster (GA)
    Eric Lanning/Leah Moczulski, Woodlands (TX)

LD

    Tim Greenfield, Apple Valley (MN)
    Justin Bexley, Churchill (TX)
    David McGough, Greenhill (TX)
    Jeffrey Miller, Highland Park (MN)
    Lindsay Dolan, Hockaday (TX)
    Taarini Vohra, Hockaday (TX)
    Becca Traber, Kinkaid (TX)
    J.R. Thorsen, Lake Highland (FL)
    Micki Chernick, Lexington (MA)
    Daniel Moerner, Los Altos (NM)
    Patrick Diehl, Lynbrook (CA)
    Jon Kwan, Lynbrook (CA)
    Ali Boyle, Pine Crest (FL)
    Shadman Zaman, Sacred Heart (MA)
    Matt Aks, Scarsdale (AZ)
    Zach Aberman, Stoneman Douglas (FL)

GEORGE MASON (VA)

Jason Warren, director of the George Mason Debate Tournament has certified
the following results for the 2006-2007 Tournament of Champions. George
Mason is a qualifier in Student Congress debate at the Top-Six level.

    Charlie Doyle, Lake Highland Prep (FL)
    Dominic Pody, Holy Ghosty Prep, (PA)
    Andrew Billings, Iona Prep, (NY)
    Matthew Graham, East Chapel Hill, (NC)
    Simon Weiner, Charlottesville HS, (VA)
    Jeanne Jeong, Broad Run HS, (VA)

USC (CA)

Gordon Stables, Director of the 2006 Trojan Championships has certified the
following results for the 2006-2007 Tournament of Champions. The Trojan
Championships is a qualifier for the TOC at the quarterfinal level in Policy
Debate. Please note, that in future years the tournament will be known as
the David Damus Trojan Championships.

    Bon Koo and Karina Piser, College Prep, (CA)
    Ian Nelson and Clint Ehrlich-Quinn, Damien, (CA)
    Matt Fisher and Stephanie Spies, Glenbrook North, (IL)
    Elliot Carr-Lee and Taylor Gunst, Highland High School, (UT)
    Vanessa Bernick and Will Sabransky, New Trier, (IL)
    Karina Momary and Ceclia Bonaduce, Notre Dame High School, (CA)
    Seth Bour and Dave Mainiero, Pine Crest School, (FL)
    Cyrus Akrami and Chase Burton, Rowland Hall St Mark's, (UT)

Alta (UT)

Tabulation room directors Lexy Green and Dave Smith have certified the
results of the Alta tournament for the 2006-2007 Tournament of Champions.
Alta is a TOC qualifier at the semifinal level in Policy Debate, and the
quarterfinal level in Lincoln Douglas Debate.

POLICY

    Rebecca Kopplin and Alexandra Grande, Capital, (ID)
    Kathy Bowen and Jordan Molliver, Gulliver Prep (FL)
    Jon Chen and Emma Vance, College Prep, (CA)
    Chase Burton & Cyrus Akrami, Rowland Hall-St. Mark's, (UT)
    *Leo Chingcuanco and Eunice Kim, College Prep (CA)

LD

    Elizabeth Shmickler, St. Louis Park (MN)
    Julian Switalla, St. Louis Park (MN)
    Michael Grassmeyer, St. Louis Park (MN)
    Lily Saadat, College Prep (CA)
    John Scoggin, Blake (MN)
    Cody Fielder, Foothill (NV)
    James Culver, Mercer Island (WA)
    Vivian Feig, Torrey Pines (CA)
    *Mostafa Al-Alusi, Torrey Pines (CA)

JW Patterson
TOC Director and Founder

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From serena_turley  Wed Dec 13 12:58:19 2006
From: serena_turley (Serena Turley)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:58:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] Looking for LGBTQ Youth for Documentary
Message-ID: <20061213185819.7090.qmail@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

  The Gay & Lesbian Center of Greater Long Beach is currently looking for LGBTQ youth who are interested in participating in the filming of documentary that will premiere at the Q Film Festival in April 2007.  The documentary is about  the challenges youth face as they come out to their family and friends.  Part of the documentary tracks the development of the Gay/Straight Alliance at Renaissance High School in Long Beach.  There are many ways that you can get involved: production, directing, shooting, editing, interviewing, promotion and marketing . . .
   
  If you are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning, or queer, under the age of 25, and you live in Southern California, please call Serena Turley at 562-434-4455, ext. 237 or send an e-mail to serenat at centerlb.org.  
   
  Please help re-post this message.  Also, please direct all inquiries to serenat at centerlb.org, since I do not read e-debate.
   
  Thanks!
Serena Turley
  Community Outreach Coordinator
  The Gay & Lesbian Center of Greater Long Beach
  www.centerlb.org



            Feminism is the radical notion that womyn are people.  ~Paula Treichler
   







 	
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Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
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From hansonjb  Wed Dec 13 14:42:47 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:42:47 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] do you have harvard prelim results?
Message-ID: <017601c71ef7$4f97c3d0$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

please fax them to me at 509-527-4959. you can email them to me as well.

i need to get them by 2pm pacific coast time tomorrow, thursday, dec. 14, for them to count for the fall ndt report.

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From hansonjb  Wed Dec 13 14:47:10 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:47:10 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] do you have harvard prelim results?
References: <017601c71ef7$4f97c3d0$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>
Message-ID: <001501c71ef7$dd3cc050$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

got 'em now. thanks to brad hall.

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim Hanson 
To: edebate at ndtceda.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:42 PM
Subject: [eDebate] do you have harvard prelim results?


please fax them to me at 509-527-4959. you can email them to me as well.

i need to get them by 2pm pacific coast time tomorrow, thursday, dec. 14, for them to count for the fall ndt report.

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu


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From hansonjb  Wed Dec 13 15:05:52 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:05:52 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] were you in elims at harvard?
Message-ID: <000f01c71efa$7ff2bbe0$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>


hey all

i need to get ballot counts for these elim rounds at harvard. if a round isn't listed, i have the results.

email me at hansonjb at whitman.edu if you know the ballot count (eg 2-1).

Octas:
NU CS def. USC IS
Dartmouth CO def. UMKC FG
Kansas BJ def. Michigan FK 
Cal BS def. Wyoming CJ
Emory HH def. Wayne MT
Oklahoma CJ def. NU BW
Idaho State MY def. Missouri State KO

Quarters
Oklahoma CJ def. Northwestern CS

Semis:
Kansas BJ def. Idaho State MY
Oklahoma CJ def. Emory HH

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From SBauschard  Wed Dec 13 15:13:33 2006
From: SBauschard (Stefan Bauschard)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:13:33 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Harvard Results
Message-ID: <200612131513.AA53477532@pop3.planetdebate.com>

I emailed the data file to Jon a few days ago -- Sunday, I think.


From hansonjb  Wed Dec 13 16:49:22 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:49:22 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] isu my v msu ko, harvard octas
Message-ID: <00af01c71f08$f03800f0$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

anyone know the ballot count on that debate?

it is the only remaining one i need to get harvard included in the fall 2006 ndt ranking report.

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From hansonjb  Wed Dec 13 16:54:04 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:54:04 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] harvard results--got 'em
Message-ID: <00e101c71f09$b13e8620$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

thanks to everyone who helped provide the results.

i will do another update of the ndt rankings late tonite and it will include harvard.

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From drmosbornesq  Wed Dec 13 18:37:19 2006
From: drmosbornesq (bandana martin)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:37:19 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] ballot count harvard octs
Message-ID: <39c09a80612131637j5e2e2834ldc212efb7c13e869@mail.gmail.com>

the ballot count? it starts with "choke" and ends with "oh, thank god they
got to semis"

juuuuust kidding.

ozzy
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From bratt  Wed Dec 13 20:02:13 2006
From: bratt (bratt at capitol-debate.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:02:13 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] Judges Needed at Towson U HS tourney this weekend
Message-ID: <20061213190213.8cce6020757326d78a2cd7ce56dd3822.64b4f8fcfc.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

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From bratt  Wed Dec 13 20:24:51 2006
From: bratt (bratt at capitol-debate.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:24:51 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] Judges Needed at Towson U HS tourney this weekend - retry
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From hansonjb  Thu Dec 14 03:12:18 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:12:18 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] ndt rankings report, draft 2
Message-ID: <026701c71f5f$f5f2c230$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

give it a look. it now includes harvard and appalachian state and a number of other minor fixes.

http://www.whitman.edu/rhetoric/ndt/

please send fixes by noon, pacific coast time, this friday, dec. 15. at that time, the results become final.

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From alfred.snider  Thu Dec 14 08:43:35 2006
From: alfred.snider (Alfred Snider)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:43:35 +0100
Subject: [eDebate] Performance in the blogosphere
Message-ID: <45816317.7070100@uvm.edu>

Thanks to Ross for posting the blog coverage of the LA Times story.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_12/010378.php

BUT, the long and detailed comments after it are well worth a read. Some 
ridiculous, some fairly profound.

I also posted a blog entry about it at
http://debate.uvm.edu/debateblog/doctortuna/Blog/AD103F56-624F-4F3E-988B-AA02582DF35B.html
No comments, however.

No mater what it is people don't like debate. I have heard:
1. This performance stuff is nonsense.
2. The fast-talking appeal to authority debate is ridiculous.
3. Audience centered debate as in the UK is pretentious and empty.

I've coached teams that read poetry and play the guitar, teams that run 
politics and agent counterplans and now I have spent quit a bit of time 
over the last few years coaching British parliamentary format debating. 
I find them all interesting and intellectually exciting.

The real thing is, each type of debate is involved in making arguments 
that have to be answered. We have to try and decide how to do that 
because that is our job. Other commentators are just involved in some 
drive-by criticism without really engaging any of this.

So, I don't take it too seriously.

Tuna

-- 
Alfred C. Snider aka Tuna
Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics
University of Vermont
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From daisy_verney  Thu Dec 14 12:09:27 2006
From: daisy_verney (Danielle Verney)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:09:27 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] 50th Annual United States Naval Academy Tournament
	Invitation
Message-ID: <BAY102-F21A5D47D769703EB181ABEE5D50@phx.gbl>

Dear Colleague,

You are cordially invited to enter the Fiftieth Annual United States Naval 
Academy Debate Tournament. The USNA tournament will take place in historic 
Annapolis, Maryland on January 27-29, 2006. Join us for a weekend of 
exceptional team policy debate competition between some of the nation?s 
premier forensic programs.

The USNA tournament will utilize the 2006-2007 national debate topic.

The USNA tournament will include Varsity, Junior Varsity and Novice level 
competition and feature six preliminary rounds of debate followed by 
elimination rounds.* All debates will use the 9-3-6 minute time format. 
Teams will receive 10 minutes of preparation time during each debate.

We are very pleased to announce that Admiral William J. Crowe will be 
speaking at this year?s banquet.  In addition to serving as Commander in 
Chief of the Allied Forces of Southern Europe and United States Pacific 
Command, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Presidents Reagan 
and George H.W. Bush, and the Ambassador to the United Kingdom under 
President Clinton, Admiral Crowe also founded the Navy Debate team over 
sixty years ago.

The deadline for entering the USNA tournament is January 15, 2005. The 
registration fee is $50.00 for each participant (coaches, debaters and 
observers). Please make checks payable to the ?Midshipmen Welfare Fund?. 
Each college or university debate program entering the USNA tournament must
provide a qualified critic to judge three preliminary rounds of competition 
for each team it enters in this tournament. Entering programs are further 
required to provide a critic to judge up to two break rounds of debate 
beyond the elimination of their teams from the tournament. In the event your 
program
cannot fulfill these requirements, a very limited number of ?for-hire? 
critics will be available at $125 per two-person team. Please let us know in 
advance if you will need to hire judges.

Trophies will be awarded to all teams advancing to the quarter final round.  
Trophies will also be awarded to the top ten individual speakers in each 
division of debate. The John Jay Pierpont Trophy, an eighteenth-century 
silver cup, will be presented to the college or university forensic program 
that
sponsors the winning the Varsity-level-debate-team. The Pierpont Trophy may 
be displayed at the victorious college or university for one calendar year.

Tournament accommodations are available at the Doubletree Hotel Annapolis 
located at 210 Holiday Court, Annapolis, Maryland 21401 telephone 
(410)224-3150. A special double room rate is available. The Doubletree has 
guaranteed room rate and availability for tournament participants until 
January 15th. After January 15th, the Doubletree will only offer rooms 
subject to availability and only at the going rate. Tournament registration 
and coaches? meetings will be held at the Doubletree Hotel Annapolis. 
Contact the Doubletree Hotel Annapolis directly to arrange accommodations.  
When making reservations request the ?USNA Debate Tournament? room rate. To 
ensure a memorable and pleasant experience at the USNA debate tournament 
please inform your participants of the following:

1.	The Tournament will be governed by ADA rules.
2.	The tournament will be conducted in academic facilities that will be used 
for classes shortly after the conclusion of the event. To help keep the 
rooms clean, please dispose of trash in appropriate receptacles. It has 
become difficult to obtain rooms lately at the Academy so please respect 
both the cleanliness of the room and the materials within it.
3.	 There is absolutely no smoking in any Naval Academy building. Smoking 
areas are located outside all USNA buildings. Please dispose of smoking 
materials responsibly.
4.	Tournament participants are welcome to visit the Officers and Faculty 
Club (O&F Club) aboard the Naval Academy. When visiting the O&F Club, be 
aware that while casual dress is permitted, athletic clothing, jeans or 
t-shirts are inappropriate attire. The O&F Club serves lunch daily from 
11:00 AM until 2:00 PM. Dinner is served Tuesday through Friday from 5:00 
until 9:00 PM. A large brunch is served on Sunday from 10:00 AM until 2:00 
PM. Reservations are always recommended. You may direct questions or 
reservation requests to (410) 293-2611.
5.	The Fifteen-Minute Forfeit rule will be in effect. If a team is not ready 
to debate 15 minutes after the announced start time of a debate they forfeit 
the round. All judges are asked to finish coaching their team 5 minutes 
before round start time and get to the rounds they are judging. Judges 
holding up the tournament who are fifteen minutes late to their rounds will 
cause the top team of the school they are representing to forfeit a debate. 
It is very important
that this tournament run on time, please help us in this regard.
6.	As you register, please be aware that we need security information for 
each vehicle entering the Naval Academy including: Make, Model, License 
plate, Driver name, and Driver?s license number.   We need this information 
at least two weeks in advance.  If you are driving a rental vehicle, all we 
will need is the driver?s name and license number, but you will need to have 
the rental paperwork on you as you enter the Yard.
7.	If you have any questions, please contact me at 410.293.6853. Entry is 
through the Bruschke system (preferred) or through email, and those emails 
should be addressed to verney at usna.edu .
8.	We look forward to enjoying the fine Annapolis-in-January weather with 
you this year!



Sincerely,
Danielle Verney	LT Matthew Sullivan  MIDN Matthew Scorcio
Director of Debate Officer Representative Tournament Logistics
United States Naval Academy

* The USNA Debate Tournament will utilize the American Debate Association 
(ADA) definitions for Novice and Junior Varsity Debaters. Half of competing 
teams will clear, up to a maximum of 16 per division, as we have room 
constraints on Sunday evening.



I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING YOUR VEHICLE INFORMATION IN 
ASAP.  We had serious problems with Academy security last year and I was 
just barely able to charm my way back into their good graces...I'm not sure 
I'm charming enough to do it twice.

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From daisy_verney  Thu Dec 14 12:17:40 2006
From: daisy_verney (Danielle Verney)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:17:40 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] 50th Annual United States Naval Academy Tournament
	CORRECTION
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F21A5D47D769703EB181ABEE5D50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY102-F16B6260A61DA6880396214E5D50@phx.gbl>

I'm sorry--the dates are the 26th through the 28th--Friday through Sunday.

A tentative schedule is below.

Thursday, January 25
8:30 - 10:00 PM: Early registration, Doubletree Hotel Annapolis

Friday, January 26
12:00 - 3:00 PM Registration * Mahan Lobby
3:30 PM General Meeting - Mahan Auditorium
4:00 PM Round I
6:15 PM Round II
10:00 PM Coaches Reception - Radisson

Saturday, January 27
7:30 AM Continental Breakfast - Mahan Hall
8:00 AM Parings Distributed
8:30 AM Round III
10:45 AM Round IV
1:00 PM Luncheon - Mahan Hall
2:00 PM Round V
4:15 PM Round VI
7:30 PM USNA Tournament Banquet - King Hall

Sunday, January 28
7:30 AM Continental Breakfast - Mahan Hall
7:45 AM Parings Distributed
8:00 AM Elimination Rounds Begin


Thank you and my apologies for the error.

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From scottaherndon  Thu Dec 14 12:53:05 2006
From: scottaherndon (Scott Herndon)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:53:05 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] UTD Tournament Update # 2 - The Westin
Message-ID: <BAY119-DAV14AABE0CCD9F8F8C517A40A5D50@phx.gbl>

Hi all, 

 

Well, we have exceeded our block at the Westin, which is causing a problem
for some people trying to make reservations. We are sorry for the
inconvenience and we are working to resolve the issue as quickly as
possible. First, if you are holding onto to doubles but know you are
planning on dropping teams or you know that you can make do with a King,
please make the change to your reservation ASAP. There is another event at
the Westin Thursday and things are very cramped. Anything we can do to free
up some of the rooms in the block will be appreciated. 

 

Second, we are working on getting a block rate at other local hotels to
accommodate the overflow from the Westin. We'll post to e-debate as soon as
there are more details on that front. We are also trying to negotiate to add
more rooms to the block at the Westin. Again, expect another post today with
more details on hotels. 

 

 

That's all for now, stay tuned for further updates. 

 

See you soon, 

 

Scott Herndon

 

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From harobran  Thu Dec 14 14:25:35 2006
From: harobran (Josh Branson)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:25:35 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] China threat
Message-ID: <BAY133-F2397DCF2F6EF14C3CDC30BC4D50@phx.gbl>

Pretty interesting report on the China threat and Chinese strategic 
modernization. It's way long, but I think most people that were involved in 
last year's topic will find at least the executive summary pretty 
interesting.

docs.nrdc.org/nuclear/nuc_06113001a.pdf

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From hansonjb  Thu Dec 14 15:43:03 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:43:03 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] someone from g. washington
Message-ID: <00f301c71fc8$d5b70490$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

please email me asap

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From stables  Thu Dec 14 18:14:11 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:14:11 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Updates - 12/14
Message-ID: <4581E8D3.2030205@usc.edu>

Greetings all,

Hope your holidays are treating you well. Here is the USC tournament update. Please note the entry and shuttle deadlines are almost upon us.

1) Hotels - I am working on resolving a few minor issues with the hotel, but to my knowledge all tournament participants have been able to secure lodging. Let me know if you have not been able to do so.

2) Entries/Judging - Traditionally we activate the judge prefs on the 26th. We would like to be able to do so earlier this year, but we need your help. Please enter the tournament at debateresults if you haven't done so already. Please also adjust your judges to match your commitment. 

As promised, we will be turning off entries tomorrow (December 15th)and have a roughly final idea of the tournament field.

3) Shuttle service - As mentioned in the invite, we will honor all requests to shuttle participants made by Sunday, December 17. 

If you need ground transportation to and from the tournament each day, please let me know. I will confirm that number to you and adjust your fees accordingly. We are contracting the transportation to match the number of reservations, so advance notice is a necessity. I cannot ensure that any reservations made after Sunday will be honored.

I have shuttle reservations from: Binghamton, CUNY, Georgia, Gonzaga, Mary Washington,  Michigan, Missouri State, North Texas, Texas and Towson. If you are expecting a shuttle to and from the hotel each day, please let me know ASAP.

4) Participant Numbers/Dietary Preferences - Please let us know your hotel head-count for your group and include any dietary preferences (i.e., vegan, etc.)

Best of luck with end of the semester and year happenings. Don't hesitate to let me know if there is anything we can do to facilitate your trip to LA.

Gordon

-- 

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Director of Debate

Annenberg School for Communication

University of Southern California

Office: 213 740 2759               Fax: 213 740 3913

http://usctrojandebate.com
 <http://usctrojandebate.com> 




From bryan.grayson  Thu Dec 14 18:38:31 2006
From: bryan.grayson (Grayson, Bryan)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:38:31 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] USC Judging - 6 rounds for sale
Message-ID: <29784B0D4B0A9A42BC55D3C2609FBE9D8C1CA8@ntxbeus10.exchange.xchg>

I have 6 rounds of judging at USC still for sale. Email me if you're
interested.

Bryan Grayson


From hansonjb  Thu Dec 14 19:03:56 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:03:56 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] noon pct deadline: ndt rankings
Message-ID: <036901c71fe4$e7dfd900$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

i've made a bunch of fixes including getting the lacc tina herman tournament entered.

send me any other needed corrections by noon, pacific coast time, friday, dec. 15, tomorrow.

at that point, the rankings become final (as in, no further changes).

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From bratt  Thu Dec 14 20:35:22 2006
From: bratt (bratt at capitol-debate.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:35:22 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] HTML and New eDebate Server
Message-ID: <20061214193522.8cce6020757326d78a2cd7ce56dd3822.4fb7a8c420.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Looks like email messages are getting scrubbed for HTML in the new
eDebate server. Testing to see if I fixed the problem on my end before
posting again as my posts did not go through yesterday.  Hopefully it
is fixed -if not, any ideas - - Ron 



From bratt  Thu Dec 14 20:44:02 2006
From: bratt (bratt at capitol-debate.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:44:02 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] Judges needed at Towson U this weekend - REPOST - fixed
	HTML problem
Message-ID: <20061214194402.8cce6020757326d78a2cd7ce56dd3822.61a3772d90.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Sorry for the multiple emails as the system was not accepting previous
emails - but at last it is fixed.  Below is the post from last night -
-- 



Hello, several of the high schools that our nonprofit supports needs
judges for this upcoming Saturday (the 16th) tournament at Towson
University.  

The Tournament starts at 9 am and runs to 4 pm - 3 rounds.  The pay is
$75.  Please email me if you are interested - these schools can really
use your help. 

Thanks, 

Ron Bratt



From mardigras23  Thu Dec 14 22:40:52 2006
From: mardigras23 (Aaron Kall)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:40:52 +0000
Subject: [eDebate] Congratulations to Russ Hubbard on his Engagement
Message-ID: <BAY132-W10F9258F85FB8538D699ABBAD40@phx.gbl>

I would like to congratulate my good friend Russ Hubbard, who got engaged earlier tonight.  He met his fiance, Tessa, several years ago while they were both in law school at Southern Methodist University.  They are both currently lawyers in Dallas and plan on getting married in September.  If you would like to congratulate Russ, feel free to e-mail him at rustyhubb at aol.com.Aaron
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From robeback00  Fri Dec 15 00:28:22 2006
From: robeback00 (Rob Eback)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:28:22 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] 8 rounds of judging available for West Georgia's
	tournament
Message-ID: <eab915980612142228u4bb3b8b8xf377e62e19824213@mail.gmail.com>

Make an offer. Cash preferred.

Rob Eback
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From robeback00  Fri Dec 15 11:35:28 2006
From: robeback00 (Rob Eback)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:35:28 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] all 8 rounds are gone
Message-ID: <eab915980612150935r3e4e3d90wdbb797c3599f7486@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for supporting capitalism.
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From andy.edebate  Fri Dec 15 13:05:24 2006
From: andy.edebate (Andy Ellis)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:05:24 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Need judges for towson tournament this weekend
Message-ID: <9368bc9b0612151105y5ff85e3flfdef2f5c53e7fae3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

this is a different call than the one ron bratt put out, The Baltimore urban
Debate league is in need of judges for this weekends tournament at towson
university. We have over 250 teams registered at this point and as you can
imagine that will cause us to have some pretty intense judging
needs.Thetournament runs from 8am (judge registration) to about 6 PM.
We will pay $45
for the day. Please email chris baron baron at budl.org for details or to let
him know you are coming.

Thank you

Andy
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From hansonjb  Fri Dec 15 13:09:57 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:09:57 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] debate research work
Message-ID: <6C076084EDD24C0680799156BFF93BF2@JimHansonPC>

Looking for some holiday cash? West Coast Publishing is hiring both researchers and writers for some Lincoln-Douglas and Parliamentary Debate work we need done over the next 7-10 days. If you are interested please contact Matt Taylor at wcdebate at aol.com. 

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From illinoisdebate  Fri Dec 15 13:56:45 2006
From: illinoisdebate (Illinois Debate)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:56:45 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Berkeley and UT Austin Please
Message-ID: <804f062d0612151156s3e3d1137r60ba1d2532c73cf2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi -

Could someone from the coaching staff of either of those schools could
backchannel me, please?  Thanks.

-Tim Glass
Coach, U of I

-- 
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Sponsored by:
*The Institute of Government & Public Affairs
*The Campus Honors Program
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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From lsd041  Fri Dec 15 12:03:07 2006
From: lsd041 (Scott Deatherage)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:03:07 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Congrats to Annie!!!
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20061215105247.031e3a48@northwestern.edu>

Many of you remember Annie Kastanek, a 2001 graduate of Northwestern 
University.  Annie debated for four years and as a senior earned a 
First Round At-Large invitation to the National Debate 
Tournament.  After graduation she spent a year with the NYUDL before 
returning to Northwestern for law school.

Yesterday she accepted an appointment by Justice Anthony Kennedy to 
serve as one of his clerks for the Supreme Court term that begins in 
October of 2007.  CONGRATS ANNIE!!!

Annie is one of the hardest working students that I've had the honor 
of working with in my 21 year tenure at Northwestern.  She came to us 
with relatively limited debate experience from small town 
Minnesota.  She almost didn't join, fearful that a kid w/ no national 
experience couldn't make it in college debate.  As a first year 
student, she spent a good deal of time in the 3-5 bracket.  As a 
senior, she completed her career after a tough 3-2 loss in the octos 
of NDT, a debate that pushed that year's Copeland Award winner to the 
brink.  In between was a lot of hard work, some great research and 
strategy, and a lot of practice.

On a personal note, let me say that Annie Kastanek is the type of 
student and person who gives coaches a reason to do what they do 
year-in and year-out.  I have spoken to her strong work ethic, which 
all coaches appreciate.  But more important, she is a leader, a 
strong and positive voice, one that is forward looking and solution 
oriented.  Annie was at Northwestern in what was without a doubt the 
toughest year of my coaching career.  Internal strife nearly tore our 
team apart that year.  I won't share the gory details, but I will say 
that it is one of the few times I seriously considered moving 
on.  Annie was instrumental -- essential -- in getting us to put our 
knives away and re-learning the art of working and playing well 
together.  She and Eli barely qualified for the NDT that season; they 
had to submit a third team bid with only two tournaments as a team 
under their belt.  They aren't the most talented team I have ever 
coached at the NDT, but they may well be the most important.

Proud today in Evanston.  Best, all.  SD  PS:  You are welcome to 
drop her a note of congrats at anniekastanek at gmail.com.  




From hansonjb  Fri Dec 15 15:56:00 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:56:00 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] ndt fall rankings
Message-ID: <001701c72095$3c9608b0$a806070a@whitmanrrsukez>

congratulations to everyone participating in our activity.

the final fall 2006 ndt rankings have now been posted.
http://www.whitman.edu/rhetoric/ndt/

Top 10 Overall Rankings
 
1.    Liberty University 467
2.    Oklahoma 431
3.    Wayne State Univ. 368
4.    Kansas (Univ. of) 363
5.    Georgia 357
6.    Kansas State 338
7.    Emory 329
8.    Binghamton 323
9.    U.S. Military Academy 323
10.  Southern California 316
 
Top 10 Varsity Rankings
 
1.   Kansas (Univ. of) 363
2.   Georgia 357
3.   Wayne State Univ. 354
4.   Oklahoma 315
5.   Emory 309
6.   Missouri State 281
7.   Vermont 269
8.   U.S. Military Academy 255
9.   Wake Forest 255
10. Southern California 254
 
Top CC Rankings
 
1 Kansas City Kansas CC 214
2 Fresno City College 123
3 Johnson County 108
4 Bakersfield College 105 
5 Southwestern 89
6 Los Angeles City College 56

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu


From dave  Sat Dec 16 10:35:44 2006
From: dave (dave at miami.edu)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:35:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] David Steinberg is Challenging You to College Bowl Mania
	Presented by KFC on ESPN.com
Message-ID: <13610657.1166286944154.JavaMail._WDIGSvc0406@espnbar02>

This message is from David Steinberg who is challenging you to play College Bowl Mania Presented by KFC on ESPN.com.



This game challenges you to select the winner of selected College Football Bowl games using a confidence scoring system.  You receive the amount of confidence points you assigned to each game you correctly selected the winning team to win. Best of all, it's FREE to play.

Get in the action now:
http://games.espn.go.com/bowlmania/group?groupID=14469&password=Debate

Game Front: http://games.espn.go.com/bowlmania/frontpage
Group: CEDA DEBATE
Password: Debate

Here's what else they had to say:


From dave  Mon Dec 18 03:43:23 2006
From: dave (Steinberg, David L)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 04:43:23 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Fox College Bowl Pickem
Message-ID: <B2BA593DA3EBE143A856ABA856D01F5D071C5583@EXCHANGE2.cgcent.miami.edu>

To enter the FoxSports College Football Bowl Contest, click on

http://msn.foxsports.com/fantasy/college-football/pickem/join/group?CMP=OTC-L4V637505371&ATT=000006FSEMCBPEGRNN&promocode=000006FSEMCBPEGRNN <https://exchange.miami.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://msn.foxsports.com/fantasy/college-football/pickem/join/group?CMP=OTC-L4V637505371%26ATT=000006FSEMCBPEGRNN%26promocode=000006FSEMCBPEGRNN> 

Enter the following information:

Group ID: 15448
Password: DEBATE

And make your picks. This one works against the spreads. Good luck!

dave

 
David L. Steinberg, Director of Debate
 
University of Miami
PO Box 248127
Coral Gables, FL  33124
 
Wolfson Building #3015
305-284-5553 (office)
305-284-5216 (fax)
 
dave at miami.edu <mailto:dave at miami.edu> 


From bbcoulte  Mon Dec 18 10:20:05 2006
From: bbcoulte (Coulter, Benjamin B.)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:20:05 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Looking to hire judging at Miami (OH) & NWU
Message-ID: <821AB4E5068CAB43A2539D4DD81F38E30204DA36@SAMFORDMAIL.ad.samford.edu>

Samford is looking to hire 8 or so rounds at both Miami (OH) and
Northwestern.  We will pay $30/round in cash at the tournament.  If you
are interested taking all or some of those rounds, please drop me a
line.

 

Ben

 

Benjamin Coulter

Debate Coach and Instructor

Samford University

Brooks Hall 107

205-726-2049

bbcoulte at samford.edu

 

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From debate  Mon Dec 18 17:45:58 2006
From: debate (debate at ou.edu)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:45:58 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] CEDA Nationals in Norman - Information From The Host!
Message-ID: <f5fba3d05904.4586d3d6@ou.edu>

Hello,

I hope everyone is planning on spending some time in Norman for CEDA Nationals, 2007.  As the host, I will be offerring some 
information that pertains to our role in the process.

I want to inform you of a couple of things that we are able to attempt to offer.

This year, outrounds will be at the University, which is approximately 3-5 minutes directly down Lindsey Street from the 
tournament hotel.  For those who will not leave the hotel on Sunday we are planning to webcast 2 seperate outrounds during 
the last day of competition.  There is a possibility of more, but we will have at least two.  

We are also attempting to get the local cable company, local network to cover some rounds and broadcast them on air the last 
day.  (maybe need a delay for bleep bleep bleep)

The food choices available within 1 mile of the hotel are excellent, and will accomodate any budget.

There is a bowling alley within walking distance of the hotel.

We are also considering a seniors and coaches only private party at a private club.  If any of you read this, what night would be 
preferable?   - This is a Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun  Debate schedule!
I will accept input.

Now about the hotel.  I will not identify the hotel yet, Dave will take care of this soon.  

However, it is all brand new. Try to be clean.   It has a BBQ Rest., and an excellent bar that will be open on Sunday as late as 
legally possible.  The owners are great people, and seem sincere in accomodating our needs.  They have blocked off the entire 
hotel for accomodating the debate tournament.

There are other things we wish to offer, but this should be good for starters.

I hope to see everyone in Norman in March.

Jackie Massey
Director of Debate
University of Oklahoma



From daisy_verney  Tue Dec 19 12:46:49 2006
From: daisy_verney (Danielle Verney)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:46:49 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Three rounds for sale at UNT
Message-ID: <BAY102-F353328AD3223E9A0CC860FE5C80@phx.gbl>

Please contact Thomas_Keane at baylor.edu


Thanks,
Danielle Verney O'Gorman
Navy Debate

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From bbcoulte  Tue Dec 19 13:14:48 2006
From: bbcoulte (Coulter, Benjamin B.)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:14:48 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Swing partner at Miami (OH) needed
Message-ID: <821AB4E5068CAB43A2539D4DD81F38E30204DA45@SAMFORDMAIL.ad.samford.edu>

We have an extra debater who needs a swing partner at Miami.  He would
like to debate varsity, but could fit in the JV division if need be.

 

Please contact me if you think we might be able to work something out.

 

Ben Coulter

 

 

Benjamin Coulter

Debate Coach and Instructor

Samford University

Brooks Hall 107

205-726-2049

bbcoulte at samford.edu

 

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From andreareed2007  Tue Dec 19 18:46:53 2006
From: andreareed2007 (A Reed)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:46:53 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] cite request for Berkeley
Message-ID: <4871d69f0612191646m60f7a46ah7b9c945441c91475@mail.gmail.com>

Im having issues finding a (neg) cite from the casebook...

someone hit me back please, preferably at reedand3 at msu.edu

thanks

Andrea


From gonzalez  Tue Dec 19 19:49:05 2006
From: gonzalez (Joshua Gonzalez)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:49:05 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] The Fat Faction XMas Challenge is underway...
Message-ID: <20061220015037.551FE5800CB@cross-x.com>

 
 
Where: Outback Steakhouse, East Lansing, Michigan
 
Who: Strauss, Dave and Burke, Ryan
 
When: Right now.
 
What: For XMas, Repko has presented them with a 140 dollar gift card to the
Outback, with the following stipulations - 
 
1. They have to spend the entirety of the 140 dollars in one sitting.
2. They are not allowed to spend a penny of it on drinks of any kind.  Water
only.
3. They have to finish everything that they order, except for veggies and
salad (because making them finish the veggies and salad really wouldn't be
in the spirit of the competition).  Veggies and salads can't be ordered to
increase the bill, otherwise they have to be finished, i.e., no dinner salad
loophole.  
4. If they don't complete parts 1-3, they have to repay the entirety of the
gift card.  
 
More updates to come.
 
 
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Joshua Gonzalez
Assistant Debate Coach
Michigan State University
10 Linton Hall
East Lansing, MI 48824
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From repkowil  Tue Dec 19 22:02:59 2006
From: repkowil (William J Repko)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:02:59 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Burke & Strauss succeed!!!
Message-ID: <E1GwsfU-0003lp-Nl@sys28.mail.msu.edu>


... At 10:12pm EST Strauss* & Burke successfully completed the Outback 
Challenge. 

... better put, Burke passes with flying colors (including nabbing some of 
Durkee's dessert)... He never flinched and sorta "did both 2's" on this 
one... 

Strauss* required Burke's assistance to finish..... 

Here is a copy of the menu so that you can understand Ryan's impressive 
accomplishment. 

http://www.outback.com/ourmenu/pdf/C164.pdf 

 Always, 

   Roger Maris



From wsu.cook  Tue Dec 19 22:16:42 2006
From: wsu.cook (Matthew Cook)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:16:42 -0600
Subject: [eDebate]  Burke & Strauss succeed!!!
Message-ID: <e79f38ae0612192016n3c6265f3t55f439d56e24350d@mail.gmail.com>

did anyone consult WSU CS before defining this as an actual challenge? This
really is Bush League.

Cookie
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From mardigras23  Tue Dec 19 23:20:38 2006
From: mardigras23 (Aaron Kall)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:20:38 +0000
Subject: [eDebate] phil kerpen quoted in dec. 19 edition of washington times
Message-ID: <BAY132-W639FDAA62526C89F75446BACF0@phx.gbl>

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20061219-122041-7993r.htmaaron
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From pacedebate  Wed Dec 20 00:51:59 2006
From: pacedebate (pacedebate at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:51:59 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Fwd:  Burke & Strauss succeed!!!
In-Reply-To: <8C8F21A5A75B799-BE0-7DA9@webmail-db03.sysops.aol.com>
References: <E1GwsfU-0003lp-Nl@sys28.mail.msu.edu>
	<8C8F21A5A75B799-BE0-7DA9@webmail-db03.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8C8F21A7B288A38-BE0-7DAB@webmail-db03.sysops.aol.com>

 
 
Tim Mahoney
Director of Debate, St. Mark's School of Texas
10600 Preston Road
Dallas, TX 75230
214-346-8141
214-734-3673 cell

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: pacedebate at aol.com
To: repkowil at msu.edu
Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [eDebate] Burke & Strauss succeed!!!


Outback was a pace tradition when I was the coach there and it's a moderate tradition for my st. mark's squads. The students were emphatic in their desire to eat there tonight, unaware of the momentous doings in east lansing, I think mostly to make fun of me and my traditions but whatever....
to add further perspective that just seeing the menu might not provide - our total bill for four debaters and two coaches including tip was just barely over $140.
 
Tim Mahoney
Director of Debate, St. Mark's School of Texas
10600 Preston Road
Dallas, TX 75230
214-346-8141
214-734-3673 cell

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: repkowil at msu.edu
To: edebate at ndtceda.com
Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 8:02 PM
Subject: [eDebate] Burke & Strauss succeed!!!



... At 10:12pm EST Strauss* & Burke successfully completed the Outback 
Challenge. 

... better put, Burke passes with flying colors (including nabbing some of 
Durkee's dessert)... He never flinched and sorta "did both 2's" on this 
one... 

Strauss* required Burke's assistance to finish..... 

Here is a copy of the menu so that you can understand Ryan's impressive 
accomplishment. 

http://www.outback.com/ourmenu/pdf/C164.pdf 

 Always, 

   Roger Maris

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From scottyp431  Wed Dec 20 01:07:17 2006
From: scottyp431 (Scott Phillips)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:07:17 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Dear MSU debate team
Message-ID: <12a4de8d0612192307r2f69559bnef026364ca2d8e58@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098802/
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From antonucci23  Wed Dec 20 04:12:53 2006
From: antonucci23 (Michael Antonucci)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:12:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] phil kerpen quoted in dec. 19 edition of washington
	times
Message-ID: <477206.77129.qm@web61017.mail.yahoo.com>

I believe that the article's author, Stephen Dinan, is
a former debater as well.

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From privethedge  Wed Dec 20 10:11:59 2006
From: privethedge (Duane Hyland)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:11:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] A Question for Debate Historians
Message-ID: <460458.56194.qm@web50904.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi, Is there anyway to find out who the team from South Dakota State University was at the 1967 and 1968 NDTs? Thanks, Duane



"You may be whatever you resolve to be." Thomas J. Jackson"

"If all mankind minus one were of one opinion and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that person that he, if he had the power, would be in silencing mankind
 If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth; if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by  its collision with error." John S. Mill

 

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From harobran  Wed Dec 20 14:27:49 2006
From: harobran (Josh Branson)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:27:49 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] debate article in Chicago Tribune
Message-ID: <BAY133-F31001F330E7D6BF6E9E1BBC4CF0@phx.gbl>

I apologize if this has already been posted, but I think this article was on 
the front page...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0612200215dec20,1,3301786.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

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From jtedebate  Wed Dec 20 14:38:48 2006
From: jtedebate (J T)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:38:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] 2 rounds ffor hire at UNT
Message-ID: <605010.61794.qm@web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

cash



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Asst. Debate Coach
Emporia State University
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From teasley3  Wed Dec 20 17:28:48 2006
From: teasley3 (Terri Easley)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:28:48 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] NJDDT Invite...
Message-ID: <77AFCAC0D5BA0249B2A3DFADD2636375ACECFC@AC-EXCH02.employee.directory.jccc>

32nd National Junior Division Debate Tournament 
Mid-America CEDA Champs 
Johnson County Community College 
March 17-19, 2007 
Friends: 
I would like to invite you to attend the 2007 National Junior Division 
Debate Tournament. All debaters who meet the CEDA definition for Junior 
Varsity eligibility are encouraged to enter the NJDDT. It will offer 8 
rounds of policy debate. In addition, we will offer a separate tournament 
for Novice and Open divisions. Under the title of the Mid-America CEDA 
Championships, these divisions will also offer 8 rounds of policy debate. 
The following information should help you with your arrangements. If you 
have any questions, or if I can be of any other assistance do not hesitate to 
contact me. Please join us in March for what I expect to be a competitive 
and rewarding experience. 
Sincerely, 
Terri Easley 
Director of Debate 
Johnson County Community College
12345 College Blvd. 
Overland Park, Kansas 66210 
913-469-8500 Ext. 4587 
teasley3 at jccc.edu 
LODGING: 
We will be using the same hotel as last year -- the Radisson located at I-35 and 95th Street.  The rate is $69 a night for doubles.  High-speed wireless internet is available in the lobby/atrium of the hotel and all of the rooms.  
Radisson - Lenexa: 12601 West 95th Street, Lenexa, KS, 66215-3895, (913) 888-6670
When making reservations, please mention NJDDT - National Junior Division Debate Tournament to get the tournament rate.  If you have any problems, contact me or Eileen in Sales at 913-217-2309.  Please reserve rooms soon as the block is only held until Feb. 26, 2007.  After that date, it will be on an availability basis.
We strongly encourage you to stay at the Radisson, but if you need other 
options for lodging please let me know. 
TRANSPORTATION: 
For transportation from the Kansas City airport to Overland Park, we 
recommend Quicksilver Shuttle if you are not renting a car. The phone number is 913- 262-0905. If other accommodations are needed please let me know. 
ENTRIES, JUDGES & FEES: 
There is no limit on entries provided there are judges to cover them. It is 
difficult to find hired judges, so please let me know early if you need to 
hire and I will see what can be done. The entry fees are $100 per debate 
team and $100 judge fee per uncovered team. Please make checks payable to 
Johnson County Community College. Each judge covers 2 teams or portion 
thereof. One team requires a 4 round commitment. ALL JUDGES ARE COMMITTED FOR THE FIRST OUTROUND AND MUST BE AVAILABLE TO JUDGE ONE ROUND AFTER HIS/HER TEAMS HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED. 
We will use the Bruschke Online Entry System.  Entries are due by 5:00 pm on Tuesday, March 13, 2007. 
TAB ROOM:
Jeff Jarman, of Wichita State University, has once again graciously agreed to direct the tab room.
DIVISIONS: 
The NJDDT is open to all debaters eligible for Junior Varsity divisions as defined by the CEDA by-laws for the JV National Championship exception. The Mid-America CEDA Championships is open to all debaters eligible for Novice or Open divisions. We will adhere to the CEDA guidelines for eligibility in each division. 
TOPIC: 
Each division will use the 2006-2007 policy debate topic. Time limits for 
the tournament are 9-3-6 with 10 minutes prep. 
DEBATES: 
The tournament will operate according to the following guidelines. 
Each team will debate 4 affirmative and 4 negative rounds. In both 
preliminary and elimination rounds, judges will be required to make a 
decision awarding one team a win, one team a loss, and award speaker points 
and ranks to each participant in the debate. The number of elimination 
rounds will be based on the entries within each division. Elimination round 
participants will be determined by (1) win-loss record, (2) adjusted speaker 
points, (3) total speaker points. Brackets will NOT be broken in 
elimination rounds. 
Rounds 1-4 will be preset. 
Rounds 5 and 7 will be high-high within brackets. 
Rounds 6 and 8 will be high-low within brackets. 
Some form of judge preference will be used.
Hybrid teams are eligible to compete and qualify for elimination rounds.  JCCC teams may participate in the tournament and advance to elimination rounds.
The NJDDT and the MACC support and will comply with the CEDA Statement on 
Sexual Harassment and Discrimination and the Statement of Ethical 
Principles. 
AWARDS: 
All teams qualifying for elimination rounds will receive awards. The top 
speakers in each division will also receive awards. 

SCHEDULE: All rounds are held on JCCC campus
Friday, March 16, 2007 
7:00 pm - 10:00 pm Registration at the Radisson - Jayhawk Boardroom
Saturday, March 17, 2007
8:00 Breakfast at the school 
8:30 Round One 
11:00 Round Two 
1:30 - 2:30 Lunch at the school 
2:30 Round Three 
5:00 Round Four 
Sunday, March 18, 2007
7:00 Pairings released at the Radisson 
7:30 Breakfast at the school 
8:00 Round Five 
11:00 Round Six 
2:00 - 3:00 Lunch at the school 
3:30 Round Seven 
6:30 Round Eight 
ASAP Breaks released at the Radisson
Monday, March 19, 2007
7:00 Pairings released at the Radisson
8:00 Breakfast at the school 
8:30 First Elimination Round 
11:30 Awards 
                        Other elims to follow
 
 
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From privethedge  Wed Dec 20 18:05:18 2006
From: privethedge (Duane Hyland)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:05:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] Thanks to All on the South Dakota Question
Message-ID: <20061221000518.5466.qmail@web50906.mail.yahoo.com>

HI, Thanks to everyone on the South Dakota question!!:) I got my States and University mixed up - I was looking for the University of South Dakota, not the South Dakota State University - you'd think after 5 years in financial aid, I'd know the difference!!:) It appears that the info on the University of South Dakota for 1968 may be wrong - as several people have told me they only competed in 1967. But, thanks to everyone!!:) Duane


"You may be whatever you resolve to be." Thomas J. Jackson"

"If all mankind minus one were of one opinion and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that person that he, if he had the power, would be in silencing mankind
 If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth; if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by  its collision with error." John S. Mill

 

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From burkery1  Thu Dec 21 02:38:03 2006
From: burkery1 (Ryan Chorkey Burke)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:38:03 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Dear Scott Phillips
Message-ID: <E1GxJRD-00035A-Gi@sys14.mail.msu.edu>


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473904/ 




From debate.gsu  Thu Dec 21 13:11:36 2006
From: debate.gsu (Dr. Joe Bellon)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:11:36 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] 6 rounds for sale at West GA
Message-ID: <e06af37d0612211111v70d5d779pf54894daa835f57d@mail.gmail.com>

Erik Mathis is selling his available rounds at West GA. Interested parties,
please contact him at:

ecmathis at gmail.com

-Joe
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From sethellsworth  Thu Dec 21 18:20:36 2006
From: sethellsworth (Seth T. Ellsworth)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:20:36 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] Rounds for sale at Texas
Message-ID: <412d08cb0612211620r7883ca94jca3a51a95500bba7@mail.gmail.com>

I have two rounds for UNT and 2 for UTD for sale. I already have
transportation, room and board. I'll even take institutional check.
Seth Ellsworth
Wyo Debate

-- 
They are in love. Fuck the war.
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From beth.skinner  Thu Dec 21 20:09:28 2006
From: beth.skinner (Beth Skinner)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:09:28 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] January 20-21 Tournament in Baltimore - Hotel Info
Message-ID: <4550c7380612211809n25090d7ej76e470bd147d9b78@mail.gmail.com>

The reservation deadline at the Burkshire has been extended to January 5.  The
name of the block of rooms in each case is "Baltimore College Debate."  Let
me know if you have problems or want information on other housing
options.  Beth




Comfort Inn, 8801 Loch Raven Blvd # 2, Towson, MD 21286 (10 minutes from
campus)

Contact Person: Mindy, (410) 882-0900



Date                 Rate/night (tax not included)
Reserve By
1/19-21            $89 nonsmoking double, 1-4 per room             1/9





Burkshire Marriott, 10 West Burke Avenue, Towson, Maryland 21204 (next to
campus)

All rooms are suites (kitchen, living room, laundry) and have one full,
queen or king bed in each bedroom, 1 BR suite sleeps 2-3, 2 BR suited sleeps
4-5, rollaways available

Contact Person: Shah Zaman, 410-324-8107



Date                 Rate/night (tax not included)
Reserve By
1/20-21            $109 (1 BR suite) or $119 (2 BR suite)            1/5
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From hansonjb  Thu Dec 21 21:17:27 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:17:27 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] policy debate survey
Message-ID: <02c201c72577$f37e8700$6501a8c0@whitmanrrsukez>

debaters and coaches and assistant coaches--anyone that has done policy debate _in college_:

i'm doing a survey to test a hypothesis i have about current and former policy debaters. it takes 3 or 4 minutes to complete. i'm hoping you'll fill it out!
http://fs12.formsite.com/hansonjb/form427443574/index.html

if my hypothesis turns out to be true, i think it will be kind of cool, and of course, i will release the results of my survey (no individual or identifiable information will be revealed in those results).

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From sethellsworth  Thu Dec 21 22:32:17 2006
From: sethellsworth (Seth T. Ellsworth)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:32:17 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] Rounds for texas swing
Message-ID: <412d08cb0612212032g50bce683y4ba0ea14766cb2e9@mail.gmail.com>

UTD rounds are sold now. I still have 2 for UNT


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From debate.gsu  Fri Dec 22 08:54:06 2006
From: debate.gsu (Dr. Joe Bellon)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:54:06 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Mathis Rounds for West GA are taken
Message-ID: <e06af37d0612220654n1f21e013yf1faf067f9e8d922@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for all the interest. Erik has already sold himself. Hmm....

-Joe
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From crb012000  Fri Dec 22 14:42:22 2006
From: crb012000 (Burk, Christopher R)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:42:22 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] UTD Tournament Update #3
Message-ID: <CB5BF6A51195F9448D2C0836B84D05D706C6FE7C@UTDEVS08.campus.ad.utdallas.edu>

Hello Everyone,
We are looking forward to hosting a Texas-sized tournament. Here's some news for those of you planning to attend.

1. Judging. The tournament needs more judges and more rounds. Coaches should go ahead and enter all teams & judges they will bring on the Bruschke website. Judges should contact me or Scott Herndon if you would be willing to volunteer or to be hired for extra rounds. We are also seeking to hire extra judges. So if you know someone who might be available to judge then please let us know. I believe that Brian Lain at UNT is also seeking some extra judging.

2. We are finalizing food orders. Please enter the food preferences in the Bruschke system if you have not already done so.

3. The Westin Park Central is booked solid from Thursday night and Friday night. Or at least that is what they tell us. Some people have been successful in reserving a King room or a Suite despite reports that the Westin in full. If you still need rooms then you can continue to attempt to get into the Westin through the website.  The website for the tournament block is http://www.starwoodmeeting.com/Book/utddt and our Westin contact person is Paul Ruby. 

4. An alternate hotel is the Clarion Hotel Park Central. It is located just east of the Westin and within walking distance. The hotel website indicates that king rooms are available there for $75/night and double rooms for $84/night.  We do not have a block with this hotel or specific contact person. If you are interested in rooms at the Clarion then you can contact the hotel directly. 
Clarion Hotel Park Central 
8102 LBJ Freeway, Dallas, TX, US, 75251
Phone: (972) 960-6555     
Fax: (972) 960-6553
http://www.choicehotels.com/

5. Transportation. We at UTD cannot provide any location transportation. It is just not possible. If you still need to secure a rental vehicle then I have two leads. The first is Capps Van Rental and http://www.cappsvanrental.com/ is the website. Second is Enterprise. The Westin Park Central has a discount code available to its guests. It is will get discounts through Enterprise. The code is 09E1179  - Westin Park Central. You can contact Enterprise at 1-800-Rent A Car. Be sure to indicate you are a corporate class member and then give them this number.


Please contact me if you have any tournament-related questions, concerns, or requests.

Sincerely,
Raoul Duke


"...with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark ? that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."




From dseikel  Sat Dec 23 08:52:46 2006
From: dseikel (David Seikel)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:52:46 +0100
Subject: [eDebate] Debatosaur Fossils Found!
Message-ID: <7A89C8AA-C3CF-4354-AA03-C93613857644@mac.com>

Paleontologists recently shocked the scientific community by  
unearthing the "missing links" in the evolution of policy debate . . .

Conclusive proof of the extinct species, "debatosaur," is now  
available on the internet for scholarly assessment . . .

*********

1.	Background

During the last seven years, I accumulated a vast archive of debate  
recordings, transcripts, tournament information, and other  
memorabilia.  (Later, I may write a detailed account of how I got all  
this stuff.)

Although I do not purport to be a scholar, I have long adhered to to  
the Prime Directive of Academia: "Never Throw Anything Away!"

Before I retired and moved to Europe three years ago, I did, however,  
amend the Prime Directive with the Seikel Corollary: "Never Throw  
Anything Away, Until You Have Digitized It!"

I now have digitized tens of thousands of pages of debate material  
and dozens of audio recordings of "ancient" debates.

2.	Website

Recently, I created a website on which I will post portions of my  
debate archive.  Here is the URL:

http://homepage.mac.com/dseikel/FileSharing1.html

Note: I am a complete "newbie" at website creation and maintenance.   
Please bear with me while I "crawl" up the learning curve.  My plan  
(hope?) is to establish a website with a more sophisticated structure  
and format, but, for now, I will use my "quick and dirty" first effort.

Further Note:  I have been a Kool-Aid drinking member of the  
Macintosh Cult since I bought two of the first 50,000 off the  
assembly line in 1984.  Although I will attempt to accommodate the  
technical needs of those of you on the Dark Side, I may not always  
succeed.

3.	NDT Audio

To complement the personal accounts of final rounds on the NDT  
website, I have posted recordings of the final rounds at West Point  
in 1957 and 1969.

Also, I posted the 1961 West Point final starring Larry Tribe, Gene  
Clements, Frank Harrison, and Peter Smith.

Much more to come over the next few months!

The audio recordings are in M4A format.  Dark Side Devotees may need  
to download the free QuickTime Player software from the Apple website  
at this URL:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html

Note: Although the recordings can be played through iTunes, I  
generally prefer to use the non-iTunes Quicktime Player for debates,  
moots, lectures, and similar content.

Currently, I am working with Allan Louden to transfer copies of my  
NDT recordings, transcripts, and tournament info to the official NDT  
website.

4.	NDT1969

Located here are various items, including the tournament book,  
prelims pairings (missing round 8), prelim results, photos, final  
round ballots, and other material, from the 1969 NDT.

5.	ISTR

Until the year 2000, I did not know that reports titled  
"Intercollegiate Speech Tournament Results" were published each year  
from 1962 through 1992 (excluding 1982-1984).  Although my college  
coach, Bill English, had some of them in his files, he probably  
didn't show them to the squad members out of concern that we would  
waste valuable research time perusing and discussing those reports.

I have scanned all of the ISTRs that were published and am doing some  
clean-up on the images.  My goal is to post one every week or so  
until I have all of them up.

ISTR 1962 is up; later reports are far more comprehensive, and most  
include an index by school.

6.	OklaHS (Oklahoma High School Debate)

Before emigrating to Texas to attend the University of Houston  
(1966-1969), I debated at St. Gregory's High School in Shawnee,  
Oklahoma (1963-1965) and Harrah Junior High School, Harrah, Oklahoma  
(1962).

The initial post on the OklaHS segment is a report by Frank G.  
Mitchell, son of legendary Seminole High School coach H. B. Mitchell,  
titled "A History of Oklahoma Debate Champions."  He recounts the  
staggering dominance of Oklahoma high schools in competitive  
forensics during the period up to 1960.  (Frank won second at NFL  
Nationals in 1951; his brother, Robert, won first in 1956.)

I am preparing a series of charts to update and supplement Mitchell's  
history.  Drafts of the charts will be up shortly.

7.	Other Segments

There are "place-holders" for other segments on my website; more  
content is coming soon!

**********

Well, that's a preliminary overview . . . .  many more fossils will  
be available during 2007!

Happy Holidays!!!

Debatosaurus Tex (a/k/a David Seikel)


Warning:  Lame attempts at humor by referring to debatosaur fossils  
as coprolites will result in attacks on the perpetrators by a cloned  
herd of Verbal Velociraptors!!!


From privethedge  Sat Dec 23 20:41:21 2006
From: privethedge (Duane Hyland)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:41:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] Debatosaur Fossils Found!
In-Reply-To: <7A89C8AA-C3CF-4354-AA03-C93613857644@mac.com>
Message-ID: <20061224024121.90687.qmail@web50912.mail.yahoo.com>

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!! This is the best Christmas present a debate geek like myself could ever want! Thank you! Duane


"You may be whatever you resolve to be." Thomas J. Jackson"

"If all mankind minus one were of one opinion and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that person that he, if he had the power, would be in silencing mankind
 If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth; if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by  its collision with error." John S. Mill

 

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From lexdevil  Sat Dec 23 22:37:47 2006
From: lexdevil (lexy green)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:37:47 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Julia Burke Debate Center Dedication
Message-ID: <410-220061202443747796@mindspring.com>

Marilyn and Jerry Burke, Julia's parents, have funded the creation of a wonderful new debate workroom at CPS.  We'll be dedicating it to Julia at 4:30 PM on Dec. 26.  Friends of Julia and the College Prep program are encouraged to come to the dedication if they'll be in the Bay Area over the holidays.  We'd like a nice turnout to thank Marilyn and Jerry for all that they have done for us.

If you need more details, please e-mail me at lexy_green at college-prep.org.  


lexy green
lexdevil at mindspring.com
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From wsu.cook  Sat Dec 23 23:39:35 2006
From: wsu.cook (Matthew Cook)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:39:35 -0600
Subject: [eDebate]  Debatosaur Fossils Found!
Message-ID: <e79f38ae0612232139k45e8a60bu19555e578c8abb6@mail.gmail.com>

yeah, this really is one of the coolest things i've heard. Thanks a bunch.

Cookie
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From stannardmatt  Sun Dec 24 21:56:41 2006
From: stannardmatt (matt stannard)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:56:41 -0700
Subject: [eDebate] new wyoming critic
Message-ID: <BAY101-F23345BEF6826322B26F698D2C20@phx.gbl>

Jason Nichols has joined the bullpen.  He debated at Eastern Utah and Weber 
in the late 90s and cleared pretty consistently.  Then he got his JD at 
Loyola of Chicago.  He'll be judging at most of the tournaments we attend 
this semester and he's already heard a lot of practice rounds and a few 
competitive rounds on the topic.  His judging philosophy is on 
debateresults.com and makes a lot more sense than Pinto's.

Have a good holiday,

stannard

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From dseikel  Sun Dec 24 22:51:09 2006
From: dseikel (David Seikel)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 05:51:09 +0100
Subject: [eDebate] Debatosaur Fossils Found! - Update 1
Message-ID: <7EDA0BDD-07F3-4F2C-9C5D-6F7BAAACEFCE@mac.com>

Debatosaur fossil find foments ferocious frenzy of fantastic frequent  
file forwarding . . .

**********

Wow!!!

I had no idea so many people would be interested in my project or  
that it would be so exuberantly received.

Numerous old friends and new acquaintances have graciously sent me  
back-channel thank-yous.

Since I posted "Debatosaur Fossils Found" on 23 December 2006, I  
received over 500 hits on my website and used over 4.5 G of my 5 G  
data transfer limit.

And all this happened on Christmas weekend!

Unfortunately, as a consequence of this wholly unexpected level of  
enthusiasm,  I had to remove all of the content and delete all of the  
website segments except for NDTAudio.  I put a message on that page  
stating that the 1957, 1961, and 1969 recordings are now at the NDT  
website.

It appears that I will not have the luxury of "crawling" up the  
website creation and management learning curve.  The herd of cloned  
Verbal Velociraptors that I mentioned at the end of "Debatosaur  
Fossils Found" is after me! LOL

I'm going to scramble, learn to use a website creation package  
(probably either RapidWeaver or SandVox), and locate a reliable  
webhosting company for a reasonably priced plan with a high transfer  
limit.

Even with a high limit, I will probably need to impose a data  
transfer "throttle" to keep my out-of-pocket costs under control.  If  
so, when I activate my new website, I will explain the details in an  
update here on eDebate.

My goal is to have my new website on-line in early January 2007.

**********

Thanks for your support and patience.

"I'll be back"!!!

Debatosaurus Tex
(a/k/a David Seikel)




From Thomas_Keane  Sun Dec 24 23:47:18 2006
From: Thomas_Keane (Keane, Tom)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:47:18 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Full 8 round commitment for sale at UTD
Message-ID: <789BD9EB5731F440A21028A6997C606718431B@MAIL-R-Z.baylor.edu>


I've got a full 8 rounds to sell at UTD.  Any takers?  

Tom


From rachelschy  Mon Dec 25 11:44:16 2006
From: rachelschy (Rachel)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:44:16 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Ride to LAX post-Fullerton
Message-ID: <b0f1ef4d0612250944o7740ab17r37161eaaf75bab20@mail.gmail.com>

Can I hitch a ride with a team going to LAX on January 5th (the day after
the Fullerton tournament)?  I have a flight around 2 p.m.  Email
rachelschy at gmail.com if you can help!

-Rachel
-- 
Leaves are falling all around, it's time I was on my way.
Thanks to you, I'm much obliged for such a pleasant stay.
But now it's time for me to go.  The autumn moon lights my way.
For now I smell the rain, and with it pain, and it's headed my way.
-Led Zeppelin
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From stables  Tue Dec 26 04:15:10 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:15:10 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Prefs Are Active
Message-ID: <4590F62E.2090009@usc.edu>

Happy Holidays to all.

The online judge preferences for the USC Alan Nichols tournament are now 
available at www.debateresults.com

As mentioned in the invitation we are using a six category system of 
judge ratings. This system asks participants to rank judges based on 
their number of committed rounds and it attempts to provide a bell curve 
(or varying sets of preference) for the overall number of rounds in the 
pool. Preferences must be completed by 10 pm on December 28th.

The basic percentage of the pool included in each category are:

1 (most preferred) - 10%
2 - 15%
3 - 25%
4 - 20%
5 - 15% (also include constraints)
6 - 10%

Other than providing differing sizes for the categories the other 
noticeable change is that we are approaching category 1 & 2 as highly 
preferred by teams. When mutually is possible within that range it will 
be used first, but we will also use 1-2 or 2-1 matchups as an example of 
high preference (i.e, the top 25%). The goal is to place as many rounds 
as possible before having to extend into the mutuality of 3-3 (26%-50%) 
or below.

This system is an outgrowth of a number of great ideas and analysis by 
other directors this semester. Thanks to Ross Smith, Tim O'Donnell, John 
Fritch, Gary Larson and Rich Edwards. Any problems are, of course, our 
responsibility.
This system is active now for both divisions and can be easily tracked 
on the site. Prefs are a binding system in Varsity and will be treated 
as an advisory model for JV (i.e., we will work to accommodate a broader 
system of preferences in JV).

Happy holidays to all. Don't hesitate to contact us if you have any 
questions.

Gordon

-- 

Gordon Stables, Ph.D.

Director of Debate

Annenberg School for Communication

University of Southern California

Office: 213 740 2759               Fax: 213 740 3913

http://usctrojandebate.com
 <http://usctrojandebate.com> 



From blain  Tue Dec 26 10:03:44 2006
From: blain (Brian Lain)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:03:44 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Finalize Entries for UNT
Message-ID: <4590F380020000F00001AD77@GWIA.unt.edu>

Colleagues, 

We look forward to hosting you in Denton in a few days.  Please make
sure that your entries are finalized at this time.  I will turn the
preference system on on December 28th to allow everyone plenty of time
to do preferences.  I would like to provide pairings at registration
this year and so I want to make sure we get everyone's preferences as
soon as possible.  

Again, if anyone is willing to hire for extra rounds, we would love to
pay them, and we appreciate their help.  It's the season for giving and
receiving.  So give extra rounds and receive some money for it.

The tournament looks wonderful, we look forward to seeing you.
-Brian

Assistant Professor of Communication
Director of Debate
University of North Texas
Box 305268
Denton, TX, 76203
(o) 940-565-4534
(c) 940-453-2359
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From ruth.zisman  Tue Dec 26 15:20:04 2006
From: ruth.zisman (Ruth Zisman)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:20:04 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] UTD rounds for sale
Message-ID: <cb273e0612261320l210aead8wcfdd10cc48b88588@mail.gmail.com>

Sherin Varghese from Bard College has 7 rounds to sell at UTD if anybody
still needs em. If you are interested, email her directly at
varghese at bard.edu.


-- 
Ruth Zisman
Director of Debate
Bard College
(845) 758-6822 ext. 6144
zisman at bard.edu
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From FijiPapabear  Tue Dec 26 22:12:49 2006
From: FijiPapabear (FijiPapabear at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:12:49 EST
Subject: [eDebate] serena turley or bust
Message-ID: <c59.b194eda.32c34cc1@aol.com>

Hit me up when available pertains to cali swing.
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From crb012000  Wed Dec 27 02:42:20 2006
From: crb012000 (Burk, Christopher R)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 02:42:20 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Seeking JV swing partner at North Texas
Message-ID: <CB5BF6A51195F9448D2C0836B84D05D706C6FE89@UTDEVS08.campus.ad.utdallas.edu>

We at UTD have an individual debater seeking a swing partner for the upcoming North Texas tournament. He's a frosh and he would prefer to compete in the JV division. He cleared in the JV as a member of a hybrid team at UCO tournament in November. 

Please contact me soon if you have a suitable partner. 



Christopher Burk
Director of Debate
University of Texas at Dallas
www.utdallas.edu/orgs/debate/new/




From debate.gsu  Wed Dec 27 09:49:14 2006
From: debate.gsu (Dr. Joe Bellon)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:49:14 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Desperately Seeking Eli Brennan
Message-ID: <e06af37d0612270749h7a6c33bk9249cfd071c31c31@mail.gmail.com>

Can't seem to get him by e-mail. If anyone else has his contact info, I'd
appreciate it.

Happy holidays all,

Joe Bellon
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From EricMorris  Wed Dec 27 12:57:47 2006
From: EricMorris (Morris, Eric R)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:57:47 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Seeking UTD Swing Pairing in Open
References: <cb273e0612261320l210aead8wcfdd10cc48b88588@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1CCBA609217926438CBBCDC5C19F899E23F023@blue.EDUBEAR.NET>

Missouri State is looking for a swing partner for Natalie Pennington, who is only eligible to debate in open. 
 
Email me if you have an option!
 
Dr. Eric Morris
Asst Prof of Communication
Director of Forensics
Craig Hall 363A
Missouri State University
Springfield, MO 65897
(O) 417-836-7636
(H) 417-865-6866
(C) 417-496-7141

 
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From jtedebate  Thu Dec 28 13:27:59 2006
From: jtedebate (J T)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:27:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] in need of an open partner for UNT
Message-ID: <764300.40717.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If anyone has an experienced swing partner for UNT, please backchannel Sam Maurer at: samuel.maurer at gmail.com or call: 509-270-1507


JT

Asst. Debate Coach
Emporia State University
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From jpiddyedebate  Thu Dec 28 13:39:55 2006
From: jpiddyedebate (Josh Pang)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:39:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [eDebate] Fullerton Tournament Eurotrash Day
Message-ID: <20061228193955.89794.qmail@web56015.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hey all,

This is just a friendly reminder to all to bring clothes for the 1st Annual Eurotrash Day at the Fullerton tournament on January 3rd (2nd day of the tournament). There will be prizes for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place distributed during the awards ceremony. 

Check Alex Iftimie's facebook page for examples.

That is all.

Kind Regards,
Fullerton Debate Squad



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From delliott  Thu Dec 28 16:50:38 2006
From: delliott (Darren Elliott)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:50:38 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Partner needed for UTD
Message-ID: <s593f5f2.028@netware.kckcc.edu>

KCK is searching for a swing partner for the UTD portion of the TX
Swing.  The debater has eligibility in JV and could also debate in Open.

thanks,
chief

Darren Elliott
Director of Debate--KCKCC
CEDA 2nd VP


From stables  Thu Dec 28 17:06:46 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:06:46 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Registration
Message-ID: <45944E06.2010503@usc.edu>

Greetings. We will be hosting registration for the USC Alan Nichols 
Tournament from 7:30-9:00 pm tonight in the Terrace A/B room on the 3rd 
floor of the Sheraton. We will have a shuttle running back and forth 
from the Westin. If you need to take that shuttle just meet the driver 
in the lobby.

If you have any questions or won't be able to attend registration please 
let me know as soon as possible. I can be reached at 702-354-2973.

Pairings for round 1 and 2 will be available on campus and at both 
hotels at 7 am.

Thanks.
Gordon

-- 

Gordon Stables, Ph.D.

Director of Debate

Annenberg School for Communication

University of Southern California

Office: 213 740 2759               Fax: 213 740 3913

http://usctrojandebate.com
 <http://usctrojandebate.com> 




From matt_moore85  Thu Dec 28 17:27:42 2006
From: matt_moore85 (Matt Moore)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:27:42 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Debate Video Site
Message-ID: <BAY101-W3B95199E0054BE7E487DFEBC70@phx.gbl>

I have finally finished uploading and indexing the videos I have gathered so far this year. If you have some to add let me know.http://debatevideos.blogspot.com/
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From blain  Fri Dec 29 01:12:54 2006
From: blain (Brian Lain)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:12:54 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] UNT Prefs are Initialized
Message-ID: <45946B96020000F00001AFBF@GWIA.unt.edu>

The Judge preference system is turned on for the UNT Tournament.  We are
using Judge units, and at least 6 rounds counts as 2 units.  Please
enter the following for the categories:

18 Units in category 1
18 Units in Category 2
14 Units in category 3
10 Units in Catgeory 4
You may place up to 14 units as not preferred.
Any others or constrained judges, you may place as category 5.

Prefs are due by 11am on January 1st.  Should you need any help, just
let me know.

Registration for the tournament will start at 6:30pm, January 1st  in
the Presidential Suite of the Raddisson.

Assistant Professor of Communication
Director of Debate
University of North Texas
Box 305268
Denton, TX, 76203
(o) 940-565-4534
(c) 940-453-2359
(fax) 940-565-3630
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From stables  Fri Dec 29 08:50:06 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 06:50:06 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Round 1 Pairings
Message-ID: <f686a0bd31e5.4594ba9e@usc.edu>

OPEN Round 1

Augustana Il MS 	California LP 	VKC 158 	Olney, Charles 
Binghamton GM 	Stanford PZ 	VKC 154 	Ceren, Omri 
Cal Poly FM 	Harvard MR 	VKC 207 	Morris, Eric 
City University Ny BC 	George Mason Univers HH 	VKC 255 	Johnson, Paul 
City University Ny SV 	Whitman College GH 	VKC 156 	Lee, Ed 
Concordia MR 	Binghamton CR 	VKC 101 	Rubino, Kathryn 
Csu Fullerton MM 	Idaho State DK 	VKC 102 	Ellis, Andy 
Csu Fullerton MP 	Missouri-kansas City FJ 	VKC 161 	Pointer, Steve 
Dartmouth AB 	Towson LC 	VKC 108 	Baxter-kauf, Mik 
Dartmouth HK 	City University Ny OP 	VKC 211 	Strait, Paul 
Emory HH 	George Washington RW 	VKC 155 	Ramachandrappa, 
Fort Hays SY 	Harvard AM 	VKC 107 	Reddy, Gaurav 
Georgia State LP 	Uc Los Angeles VZ 	VKC 201 	Stahl, Greta 
Gonzaga CJ 	California BS 	VKC 160 	Strauss, Dave 
Harvard KK 	Wake Forest AS 	VKC 103 	Mancuso, Steve 
Idaho State DJ 	Missouri State WW 	VKC 252 	Richter, Nicole 
Idaho State MY 	Whitman College AC 	VKC 150 	Gonzalez, Josh 
Kansas (univ. Of) BJ 	Miami MV 	VKC 209 	Hardy, Aaron 
Loyola Marymount U. AM 	Whitman College MM 	VKC 151 	Odekirk, Scott 
Miami (florida) IT 	Whitman College CS 	VKC 203 	Souders, Mick 
Michigan State Univ. BA 	Northwestern CS 	VKC 200 	Vats, Anjali 
Michigan State Univ. EW 	Harvard LP 	VKC 153 	Lacy, J.p. 
Michigan State Univ. LR 	Cal. State Long Beac BJ 	VKC 208 	Coulter, Ben 
Michigan State Univ. MR 	Northwestern BW 	VKC 254 	Watson, Hays 
Michigan University FK 	Liberty University CK 	VKC 157 	Grayson, Bryan 
Missouri State MO 	Samford MW 	VKC 100 	Burke, Ryan 
Redlands MS 	James Madison GY 	VKC 205 	Reed, Jv 
Rochester CK 	Gonzaga HW 	VKC 152 	Hall, Sherry 
Rochester MW 	Wake Forest GL 	VKC 110 	Feldman, Jonah 
Samford GR 	Georgia CR 	VKC 105 	Williams, Abi 
Texas (austin) CS 	California BR 	VKC 104 	Buntin, Jeff 
Texas (austin) TW 	Michigan State Univ. DR 	VKC 206 	Petit, Louie 
U.s. Military Academy HK 	Dartmouth CK 	VKC 210 	Gorelick, Nate 
Wake Forest CC 	Csu Fullerton BW 	VKC 106 	Turner, John 
Wake Forest LP 	Gonzaga BS 	VKC 202 	Morales, Tristan 
Wayne State Universi MT 	Csu Fullerton BG 	VKC 111 	Schatz, Joe 
Whitman College RS 	Miami (florida) AW 	VKC 204 	Kephart, John 

JV Round 1

Csu Fullerton GS 	Binghamton TW 	VKC 257 	Terry, Andrea 
Southwestern (califo BD 	El Camino College ST 	VKC 261 	dennis, doug 
Southwestern (califo CD 	Binghamton BP 	VKC 256 	Keenan, Vik 
Southwestern (califo PR 	Rochester CY 	VKC 258 	Turoff, Corey 
Whitman College JW 	Missouri-kansas City MM 	VKC 260 	Davis, Alysia 
Whitman College MS 	Csu Fullerton CD 	VKC 259 	Neesen, Bill 




Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759
Fax: 213 740 3913
www.usctrojandebate.com



From stables  Fri Dec 29 08:51:10 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 06:51:10 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Round 2 Pairings
Message-ID: <f686a3bc62bd.4594bade@usc.edu>

Open Round 2

Binghamton CR 	Missouri State MO 	VKC 100 	Ramachandrappa, 
Cal. State Long Beac BJ 	Cal Poly FM 	VKC 207 	Kephart, John 
California BR 	Csu Fullerton MM 	VKC 102 	Steele, Orion 
California BS 	Csu Fullerton MP 	VKC 161 	Buntin, Jeff 
California LP 	Michigan University FK 	VKC 157 	Hamrick, Kevin 
City University Ny OP 	Idaho State DJ 	VKC 252 	Pointer, Steve 
Csu Fullerton BG 	Texas (austin) TW 	VKC 206 	Moore, Matt 
Csu Fullerton BW 	Samford GR 	VKC 105 	Terry, Andrea 
Dartmouth CK 	Kansas (univ. Of) BJ 	VKC 209 	Powers, Shawn 
George Mason Univers HH 	Michigan State Univ. MR 	VKC 254 	D'amico, Steve 
George Washington RW 	City University Ny SV 	VKC 156 	Olney, Charles 
Georgia CR 	Wake Forest CC 	VKC 106 	Hardy, Aaron 
Gonzaga BS 	Miami (florida) IT 	VKC 202 	Baxter-kauf, Kat 
Gonzaga HW 	Loyola Marymount U. AM 	VKC 151 	Turoff, Corey 
Harvard AM 	Dartmouth AB 	VKC 108 	Packer, Joe 
Harvard LP 	Binghamton GM 	VKC 154 	Patrice, Joe 
Harvard MR 	Michigan State Univ. LR 	VKC 208 	Mancuso, Steve 
Idaho State DK 	Texas (austin) CS 	VKC 104 	Reddy, Gaurav 
James Madison GY 	Whitman College RS 	VKC 204 	Johnson, Paul 
Liberty University CK 	Augustana Il MS 	VKC 158 	Gonzalez, Josh 
Miami (florida) AW 	Redlands MS 	VKC 205 	Odekirk, Scott 
Miami MV 	U.s. Military Academy HK 	VKC 210 	Morales, Tristan 
Michigan State Univ. DR 	Harvard KK 	VKC 103 	Watson, Hays 
Missouri State WW 	Dartmouth HK 	VKC 211 	Blank, Thad 
Missouri-kansas City FJ 	Gonzaga CJ 	VKC 160 	Mcbride, Brian 
Northwestern BW 	City University Ny BC 	VKC 255 	Jordan, Todd 
Northwestern CS 	Georgia State LP 	VKC 201 	Burke, Ryan 
Samford MW 	Concordia MR 	VKC 101 	Hoe, Josh 
Stanford PZ 	Michigan State Univ. EW 	VKC 153 	Feldman, Jonah 
Towson LC 	Fort Hays SY 	VKC 107 	Turley, Serena 
Uc Los Angeles VZ 	Michigan State Univ. BA 	VKC 200 	Spring, Sarah 
Wake Forest AS 	Wayne State Universi MT 	VKC 111 	Lee, Ed 
Wake Forest GL 	Idaho State MY 	VKC 150 	Turner, John 
Whitman College AC 	Rochester MW 	VKC 110 	Ceren, Omri 
Whitman College CS 	Wake Forest LP 	VKC 203 	Stahl, Greta 
Whitman College GH 	Emory HH 	VKC 155 	Strauss, Dave 
Whitman College MM 	Rochester CK 	VKC 152 	Davis, Mike 

JV Round 2

Binghamton BP 	Southwestern (califo BD 	VKC 261 	Davis, Alysia 
Binghamton TW 	Whitman College MS 	VKC 259 	Keenan, Vik 
Csu Fullerton CD 	Southwestern (califo PR 	VKC 258 	Richter, Nicole 
El Camino College ST 	Csu Fullerton GS 	VKC 257 	Diggs, Shawntia 
Missouri-kansas City MM 	Southwestern (califo CD 	VKC 256 	Ellis, Andy 
Rochester CY 	Whitman College JW 	VKC 260 	Schatz, Joe 




Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759
Fax: 213 740 3913
www.usctrojandebate.com



From illinoisdebate  Sat Dec 30 00:02:48 2006
From: illinoisdebate (Illinois Debate)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:02:48 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] Judging for hire at Miami (OH)
Message-ID: <804f062d0612292202l2ea3cf32v15c5a0cf6889dadd@mail.gmail.com>

For those attending the wonderful tournament at my alma mater that need
judging, the U of I has at least 2 and up to 6 rounds available for hire,
first come first served.

-Tim Glass
Coach, U of I

-- 
I Debate:  The Illinois Policy Debate Team
Sponsored by:
*The Institute of Government & Public Affairs
*The Campus Honors Program
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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From pacedebate  Sat Dec 30 00:31:29 2006
From: pacedebate (pacedebate at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:31:29 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] 2 rounds available for UNT
Message-ID: <8C8F9F345F7C1E1-190-4FD@webmail-db04.sysops.aol.com>

if you still need judging for UNT I have two rounds available. 
 
Tim Mahoney
Director of Debate, St. Mark's School of Texas
10600 Preston Road
Dallas, TX 75230
214-346-8141
214-734-3673 cell
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From andy.edebate  Sat Dec 30 02:18:13 2006
From: andy.edebate (Andy Ellis)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:18:13 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] attention debate community
Message-ID: <9368bc9b0612300018w31c887d2re28d38aafac4a0da@mail.gmail.com>

until further notice towson cl will no longer debate the "official"
topic. instead they will debate the topic resolved: prisons should be
abolished. we encourage the entire community to debate this topic.

you have been informed.


From paulstrait  Sat Dec 30 11:29:39 2006
From: paulstrait (Paul Strait)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:29:39 -0500
Subject: [eDebate] attention debate community
Message-ID: <BAY102-F19B2DDE95A17D00C5CE951CEC50@phx.gbl>

When you are negative are you going to run T against teams that choose to 
debate the "official" topic?  Did you write a topic paper about prisons at 
some point that was overlooked by the community?

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From stables  Sat Dec 30 21:01:27 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:01:27 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Double Octafinals at the USC Alan Nichols
Message-ID: <e0fbd65e7ca3.4596b787@usc.edu>

OPEN DOUBLES

VKC 203 California BS v. Missouri State MO Ramachandrappa Burke Ceren
VKC 108 CSU Fullerton MM v. Wake Forest CC Hall Turner Arnett
VKC 106 Emory HH v. MSU BA Powers Hamrick Davis
VKC 202 George Washington RW v. Wake Forest LP Achten Hoe Souders
VKC 101 Georgia CR v. ibertiy University CK Spring Perkins Mancuso
VKC 110 Harvard LP v. Harvard KK
VKC 210 Harvard MR v. Miami (Ohio) MV Baxter-Kauf Morris Morales
VKC 107 Idaho State MY v. California BR Patrice Garner Buntin
VKC 211 Kansas BJ v. Northwestern BW Reddy Watson Stahl
VKC 206 MSU DR v. Dartmouth HK Johnson Strait Blank
VKC 201 Michigan v. Loyola Marymount Strauss Lacy Coulter
VKC 111 Northwestern CS v. Missouri State WW Kephart Gonzalez Feldman
VKC 205 Wake Forest GL v. California LP Klinger Hardy Vats
VKC 102 Wayne State v. Texas (Austin) TW Gorelick Moore Olney
VKC  204 Whitman College RS v. Whitman College MM

JV SEMIS

VKC 104 Binghamton BP v. Binghamton TW
VKC 105 Rochester CY (Aff) v. Whitman College MS Johnson Williams Packer


Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759
Fax: 213 740 3913
www.usctrojandebate.com


From stables  Sat Dec 30 21:04:37 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:04:37 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] Corrected Open Doubles at the USC Alan Nichols
Message-ID: <de03c6b73107.4596b845@usc.edu>

OPEN DOUBLES

VKC 203 California BS v. Missouri State MO Ramachandrappa Burke Ceren
VKC 108 CSU Fullerton MM v. Wake Forest CC Hall Turner Arnett
VKC 106 Emory HH v. MSU BA Powers Hamrick Davis
VKC 202 George Washington RW v. Wake Forest LP Achten Hoe Souders
VKC 100 Georgia CR v. ibertiy University CK Spring Perkins Mancuso
VKC 101 Harvard AM v. CSU Fullerton MP Jordan Lee Pointer 
VKC 110 Harvard LP v. Harvard KK
VKC 210 Harvard MR v. Miami (Ohio) MV Baxter-Kauf Morris Morales
VKC 107 Idaho State MY v. California BR Patrice Garner Buntin
VKC 211 Kansas BJ v. Northwestern BW Reddy Watson Stahl
VKC 206 MSU DR v. Dartmouth HK Johnson Strait Blank
VKC 201 Michigan v. Loyola Marymount Strauss Lacy Coulter
VKC 111 Northwestern CS v. Missouri State WW Kephart Gonzalez Feldman
VKC 205 Wake Forest GL v. California LP Klinger Hardy Vats
VKC 102 Wayne State v. Texas (Austin) TW Gorelick Moore Olney
VKC 204 Whitman College RS v. Whitman College MM

JV SEMIS

VKC 104 Binghamton BP v. Binghamton TW
VKC 105 Rochester CY (Aff) v. Whitman College MS Johnson Williams Packer


Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759
Fax: 213 740 3913
www.usctrojandebate.com


From stables  Sat Dec 30 21:32:03 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:32:03 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Seeds and Speaker Awards
Message-ID: <de368f634d47.4596beb3@usc.edu>

OPEN Speaker Awards

1. Murillo (Wayne State)
2. Montes (Fullerton)
3. Culpepper (Georgia)
4. Magallon (Fullerton)
5. Yeats (Idaho State)
6. Osborn (Missouri State)
7. Rabinowitz (Georgia)
8. Burshteyn (California)
9. Murray (Harvard)
10. Hamraie (Emory)
11. Hoehn (Emory)
12. Anders (Harvard)
13. Meiches (Whitman)
14. Patten (Wake Forest)
15. Wallace (George Washington)
16. Luxemburg (Harvard)
17. Mirchandani (Harvard)
18. Keenan (Michigan)
19. Bricker (Kansas)
20. Jennings (Kansas)


OPEN Seeds

1. Georgia CR
2. Wayne State MT
3. Harvard AM
4. Northwestern CS
5. Harvard LP
6. Idaho State MY
7. CSU Fullerton MM
8. Emory HH
9. Kansas BJ
10. Harvard MR
11. Whitman RS
12. California BS
13. Michigan University FK
14. George Washington RW
15. Wake Forest GL
16. Michigan State DR
17. Dartmouth HK
18. California LP
19. Wake Forest LP
20. Loyola Marymount AM
21. Missouri State MO
22. Whitman College MM
23. Miami (Ohio) MV
24. Northwestern BW
25. Michigan State BA
26. Wake Forest CC
27. California BR
28. Harvard KK
29. Missouri State WW
30. CSU Fullerton MP
31. Texas (Austin) TW
32. Liberty University CK

4-3 and not clearing:
MSU LR
Georgia State LP
Dartmouth AB
Concordia MR


JV Speaker Awards

1. Belly (Binghamton)
2. White (Whitman)
3. Passantino (Binghamton)
4. Woan (Binghamton)
5. Yang (Rochester)


JV Seeds

1. Whitman College MS
2. Binghamton BP
3. Binghamton TW
4. Rochester CY

(Whitman JW was 7-0 but could not clear as a hybrid)


Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759
Fax: 213 740 3913
www.usctrojandebate.com


From FijiPapabear  Sat Dec 30 23:41:41 2006
From: FijiPapabear (FijiPapabear at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:41:41 EST
Subject: [eDebate] Seasons Greetings
Message-ID: <c6c.86f2e9e.32c8a795@aol.com>

CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - _President Bush_ (javascript:;)    on Friday sent 
holiday greetings to all Muslims in America, _Iraq_ (javascript:;)   and across  
the world as they celebrate the Eid al-Adha religious festival. 

"Eid  al-Adha is an important occasion to give thanks for their blessings and 
to  remember Abraham's trust in a loving God," Bush said in a statement 
released  from his Texas ranch, where he is spending the week pondering changes to 
U.S.  policy in Iraq and staying abreast of _Saddam Hussein_ (javascript:;)  
's execution. 

Iraq's Shiites will  celebrate Eid al-Adha, one of the two most important 
holidays in Islam, from  Dec. 31 to Jan. 4. 

"During the four days of this special observance,  Muslims honor Abraham's 
example of sacrifice and devotion to God by celebrating  with friends and 
family, exchanging gifts and greetings, and engaging in worship  through sacrifice 
and charity," he said. 

Bush noted the contributions of  Muslim U.S. citizens. 

"This holiday reminds us of the values that so  many of our citizens hold in 
common, including love of family, gratitude to God,  the importance of 
community and a commitment to respect, diversity, tolerance  and religious freedom," 
Bush said. 

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From stables  Sun Dec 31 01:24:26 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:24:26 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Octafinals Judges
Message-ID: <de39fc31dbf.4596f52a@usc.edu>

Pairings released at the Hotels and Campus at 7am. Round starts at 8:15am.

Achten
Blank
Buntin
D?Amico
Garner
Gonzalez
Hall
Hamrick
Hardy
Kephart
Klinger
Lacy
Lee
Mancuso
McBride
Morales
Morris
Olney
Packer
Patrice
Ramachandrappa
Souders
Spring
Stahl
Tarloff
Turner
Turoff


Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759
Fax: 213 740 3913
www.usctrojandebate.com


From stables  Sun Dec 31 10:00:00 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:00:00 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Octafinals Pairings
Message-ID: <f681f11c54ff.45976e00@usc.edu>

Double Octa-Finals Results

1. UGA CR def. Liberty CK 2-1 Mancuso* Perkins Spring
2. Wayne MT def. Texas TW 3-0 Gorelick Moore Olney
3. Harvard AM def. CSU Fullerton MP 3-0 Jordan Lee Pointer
4. Northwestern CS def. Missouri State WW 3-0 Feldman Gonzalez Kephart
5. Harvard LP advanced over Harvard KK
6. Idaho State MY def. California BR 2-1 Buntin Garner* Patrice
7. CSU Fullerton MM def. Wake Forest CC 3-0 Arnett Hall Turner
8. Emory HH def. Michigan State BA 3-0 Davis Hamrick Powers
9. Kansas BJ def. Northwestern BW 2-1 Reddy* Stahl Watson
10. Harvard MR def. Miami MV 2-1 Baxter-Kauf, Katie* Morales Morris
11. Whitman RS advanced over Whitman MM
12. California BS def. Missouri State MO 2-1 Burke Ceren Ramahcandrappa*
13. Michigan FK def. Loyola AM 3-0 Coulter Lacy Strauss
14. Wake Forest LP def. George Washington RW Achten Hoe Souders*
15. California LP def. Wake Forest GL 3-0 Hardy Klinger Vats
16. Michigan State DR def. Dartmouth HK 3-0 Blank Johnson Strait


Octafinals Pairings

1. UGA CR v. MSU DR Achten Blank Spring
2. Wayne State MT v. California LP Lacy Olney Souders
3. Harvard AM v. Wake Forest LP Mancuso Morales Morris
4. Northwestern CS v. Michigan FK Garner Klinger Ramachandrappa
5. Harvard LP v. California BS Buntin Hamrick Stahl
6. Idaho State MY v. Whitman RS D'Amico Gonzalez McBride
7. CSU Fullerton MM v. Harvard MR Lee Patrice Turner
8. Emory HH v. Kansas BJ Hall Hardy Tarloff


Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759
Fax: 213 740 3913
www.usctrojandebate.com


From stables  Sun Dec 31 14:31:34 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:31:34 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Quarterfinals Pairings
Message-ID: <de70bba4728.4597ada6@usc.edu>

Octafinal Results

1. UGA CR def. MSU DR (A) 3-0 Achten Blank Spring
2. Wayne MT (A) def. California LP 2-1 Lacy Olney Souders*
3. Harvard AM (A) def. Wake Forest LP 2-1 Mancuso* Morales Morris
4. Northwestern CS def. Michigan FK (A) 2-1 Garner Klinger* Ramachandrappa
5. California BS def. Harvard LP (A) 2-1 Buntin* Hamrick Stahl
6. Idaho State MY (A) def. Whitman RS 3-0 D'Amico Gonzalez McBride
7. Harvard MR def. CSU Fullerton (A) 2-1 Lee Patrice* Turner
8. Kansas BJ def. Emory HH (A) 2-1 Hall* Hardy Tarloff


Quarterfinal Pairings

1. UGA CR v. Kansas BJ Arnett Hall Stahl
2. Wayne State v. Harvard MR D'Amico Lacy Spring
3. Harvard AM v. Idaho State MY Hardy Johnson Morales
4. Northwestern CS v. California BS Blank Lee Klinger


Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759
Fax: 213 740 3913
www.usctrojandebate.com


From stables  Sun Dec 31 17:26:50 2006
From: stables (Gordon Stables)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:26:50 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] USC Alan Nichols Semifinals Pairings
Message-ID: <de3ac23b5688.4597d6ba@usc.edu>

Quarterfinals Results

1. Kansas BJ def. UGA (A) CR 3-0 Arnett Hall Stahl
2. Wayne MT def. Harvard MR (A) 2-1 D'Amico Lacy Spring*
3. Idaho State MY (A) def. Harvard AM Hardy Johnson Morales
4. California BS def. Northwestern CS (A) 2-1 Blank Klinger Lee*


Semifinals

1. Kansas BJ v. California BS Klinger Powers Ramachandrappa
2. Wayne State MT v. Idaho State MY McBride Spring Tarloff


Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759
Fax: 213 740 3913
www.usctrojandebate.com


From hansonjb  Sun Dec 31 19:27:21 2006
From: hansonjb (Jim Hanson)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:27:21 -0800
Subject: [eDebate] looking for a judge for berkeley
Message-ID: <002001c72dc4$01867f20$4c01a8c0@whitmanrrsukez>

i'll pay $250 for a 6 round commitment.

email me.

jim :)
hansonjb at whitman.edu
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From blain  Sun Dec 31 23:45:04 2006
From: blain (Brian Lain)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:45:04 -0600
Subject: [eDebate] Missing Prefs for UNT Tournament
Message-ID: <45984B80020000F00001B1C9@GWIA.unt.edu>

Happy New Year!!

We are looking forward to everyone's arrival for the tournament.  We
still do not have preferences from the following teams:

Baylor Obie Lansford & Halli Tripe 
Baylor Brooks Johnson & Josh Oie 
Baylor Alex McVey & Chris Rooney 
Baylor Samantha Foley & Andrew Schellar 
Baylor Michael Butera & Amanda Luppes 
Kansas (Univ. of) Chris Thomas & Kyle Shernuk 
Kansas (Univ. of) Erum Shah & Zahra Nasrazadani 
Oklahoma David Blair & Bryan Moyer 
Oklahoma Nathan Eicher & MIchael Yost 
U.S. Naval Academy Eric Stromme & Brett Wessley 
U.S. Naval Academy Matthew Scorcio & David Jordan 
U.S. Naval Academy Andrew Alvarez & Sean Hurley 
Wichita State Patrick Rinker & Sean Stenger 
and several teams in the Junior division.

If you would like to take advantage of a mutual preference judging
system, we suggest you complete your sheets by 11am tomorrow. 

Registration will open at 6pm in the Presidential Suite of the
Raddisson (Room 820).  We look forward too seeing you there.  Have a
great new year's day.

Those of you traveling.  Please travel safe.
-UNT