[eDebate] ans Stannard

Andy Ellis andy.edebate
Fri Jun 30 18:39:57 CDT 2006

if you have the quick turn of a phrase to explain it all can you tell me why
wtc7 fell?

On 6/30/06, Michael Korcok <mmk_savant at hotmail.com> wrote:
> i'll make you a deal:  we all just shut up and debate.  how about that?
> it is way too much to hope that you would be an educator/debate coach who
> teaches folks to argue, develops their critical thinking skills, and shows
> them how to research public issues without also being an old communist who
> uses debate to recruit the young to your particular fringe ideology.  Matt,
> you wouldn't stand for it if it was the religious right recruiting like
> this but that is precisely what you are doing.  it is just creepy.  and
> icky.  but it is just bullshit to claim that I am also being an
> ideologue because i RESPOND to heapings of far-left garbage.
> so i extend my hand in this peace offering:  let's make edebate and debate an
> ideology-free zone.  or at least more of an ideology-free zone.  deal?
> the little stuff:
> 1) "complete lack of original thinking"
> unh unh. not true.  never true.  won't ever be so.  i am the mighty mighty
> generator of the clarifying phrase, the thought that makes it all make
> sense, the difference that makes a difference.  always was.  always will
> be.  you just stand there all "whut?"
> 2) "any kind of human sensitivity"
> well... this is a known issue and we are working on a technical fix.  we
> should have a patch out soon.  Korcok 2.0
> we promise.  keep checking your e-mail.
> and if this is your clevah pitch to try to enroll me in one of your
> Sensitivity-Awareness-Retraining Seminars hosted at one of those Gulags you
> all are famous for, well, no thank you.  communism killed 100 million of its
> own citizens in the last century and i am the insensitive one?
> and here is a preview of the progress that has been made so far toward a
> more sensitive me:
> every day about 155,000 people die in this wicked wicked world.  I weep
> for each and every one of them.  True, it is only about 4 milliseconds of
> weeping per person, but that still amounts to 10 minutes of crying every
> single day.  you are thinking: "4 milliseconds!  what a jerk!"  but I point
> out that is orders of magnitude more sensitivity than your almost exactly 0
> emotiveness.  who is the insensitive one now?
> and the anti-war left focuses on the 2 Americans who die in Iraq every day
> (2/155,000=.000013) in an attempt to use their deaths for their own
> political purposes.  instead of honoring these men and women for their
> service to America, the far left desecrates them, their deaths made even
> less than .000013 of the terrible daily total.
> 3) "ashamed by your alignment with a party full of culturally conservative
> religious people"
> not aligned to the Republican Party in any way:  registered independent.
> I am ashamed of many things, including agreeing to go to the prom with
> Heidi 27 years ago then trying to back out but going anyway, but I am not
> ashamed of whatever it is you are talking about.
> and some of my best friends are culturally conservative religious people.
> I tend to like them as much as or more than culturally liberal irreligious
> people.
> i really do work hard to accept each person on their own terms:  hell, I
> even like you.  not as much as that weird poem you posted a few days ago
> which made me think "what the hell is with Stannard?  It reads like he is
> coming down Brokeback Mountain or something..."  I don't like you that
> way, but I like you.
> 4) "you obviously think you're smarter than them."
> you are kidding, right?
> i think i am smarter than everyone.
> well...  maybe a couple folks out there are almost as bright as i am...
> maybe... almost...
> 5) "control and influence you've never really had in any other part of
> your life."
> i am not the one recruiting activists to my ideology:  i am the one
> mocking those trying to organize for radical change because the world is
> so wicked they can't stand it!  and the only frikkin chaos in my life at the
> moment consists of not knowing if the seller will make sufficient
> concessions so we can close the deal on Bakersfield's Most Expensive Condo
> Ever Sold.  decide already, damn you!
> 6) "the most circular polemic of Coulter or Hannity."
> dude, you are obsessed with Ann Coulter.  NOT HEALTHY.
> both of them impress me as religious fanatics so whenever they talk to
> religious themes, i give them first this finger then this one while snarling
> at their images.  always leaves me wondering how otherwise impressive
> persons can go so wrong.
> but Hannity is quite good at the cross-ex and I enjoy watching him take
> apart twerps.  hey, i take entertainment where i can get it.
> Ann Coulter is just great at holding her own in the face of a withering
> attack.  and NOTHING in this world the left hates more than a smart woman of
> the right:  they ALWAYS do EVERYTHING they can to DESTROY them.  even worse
> than how the left treats african-americans of the right.  and you gotta
> respect her game.
> 7) "a hurtful tone that is so very different from the gentleness behind
> your eyes."
> another Brokeback moment, Matt?  /wink /wink
> but yeah, the new sensitivity patch includes an upgrade to that area
> behind my eyes.  makes it more gentle-looking than before.
> yes, i wish the jihad and the insurgency would stop trying to destroy
> their and their neighbors' futures.
> 8) "By all means, call us names if it makes you feel better."
> such love!  makes me all weepy.  of course you are cutting into my 10
> designated minutes of human sensitivity.
> like i started...  how about we all just shut up and debate?
> Michael Korcok
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