[eDebate] And so its official...you can apply now.

Phillip Samuels iriamenzo
Thu Mar 16 03:13:27 CST 2006

I know we don't talk as much as we should but I want you to know that I 
consider you one of my best friends.  You have done so much for me I don't 
have the space to thank you for all of it.  I know we did not always see eye 
to eye about everything (I rarely do with most people).  But you did 
something for me that a) you did not have to do and b) no one else would 
have.  You gave me a second chance at life.  You not only let me come to 
Emporia and debate for the hornets but you gave me scholarship (without 
which I could not have gone to school).  Most people don't know the Ken that 
I know and most people don't know how much you loved this activity and your 
job.  More importantly most people don't know how good your heart really is. 
  Unfortunately, our ?community? is often very judgmental and superficial 
and sometimes it keeps them from realizing that there is more to this 
activity than how you do at the NDT.  For me it?s the friends that I?ve made 
and hope to keep for the rest of my life.  My friends from ESU-- Sam, SJ, 
Register, JT,  Kelly, Tiara,  and you are people that even if I don?t talk 
to you all the time are people that I would do almost anything for.  We were 
more than a team we were a family. I am going to miss you.  You leaving the 
activity is going to be hard on me-- more than you know.  Often when I feel 
out of place at a tournament I can come find you and the JT and I feel at 
home again.  I feel comfortable.  That means a lot to me even if I never say 
it.    I admit I worry about who will be at ESU in the future.  I want the 
program to live on and give other people, who have no where else to go, a 
chance.  I hope life after debate is everything you hope for.  I know this I 
have very high expectations of you.  You are too smart, cunning, and 
opportunistic to not make the outside world work for you.  Good Luck.  And I 
will miss you---Phil D

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>From: "Ken DeLaughder" <kenedebate at hotmail.com>
>To: eDebate at ndtceda.com
>Subject: [eDebate] And so its official...you can apply now.
>Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:24:05 -0600
>To everyone...
>With no formal drumroll or fanfare, I will be going to law school in the 
>Fall of 2006 and will not be returning as Director of Debate at Emporia 
>State next year.  They are figuring out what the course of action will be 
>right now, but I am told there will be a search for qualified applicants 
>much similar to what happened when I was hired.
>Official announcement forthcoming when I get wording and details.
>*deep breath*
>To my assistant: sometimes youre a pain in my ass, but you know what are 
>assistants for.  GET YOUR DEGREE DAMMIT! :)
>To my debaters: thanks for understanding, I love you all. You all kick ass, 
>and we're going to have a good time in Dallas.
>To my recruits: no reason to worry, someone great will take my place, and 
>JT will still be around, and anybody tries to tell you the program is 
>collapsing without me, they are full of shit, don't listen to their 
>recruiting crap (some of you have already tried to do that... shame on 
>you).  The program is bigger than me or any one person...
>To my people:  I would thank lots of you, but you'll email me anyway, and 
>I'd cry if I left someone out.  You know who you are, we still talk about 
>things, maybe not as much as we used to, but you know... you do...don't 
>worry, we're still friends :) Louie Petit has the biggest heart of anyone 
>in debate.  What a champ (see I had to mention one person - Malcolm.. ok 
>two), oh yeah Battlestar.. what the hell? was it a dream?
>To the community at large:  You know I thought about what to say, but what 
>really burns in my mind is what Doyle Srader said when he left, that he 
>knew it was time when it was no longer fun to cut bunches of cards (Doyle, 
>I listened carefully...).  This topic broke my heart, I was SOOOO looking 
>forward to China.  Frankly, it sucks.  Same old contrived crud for the most 
>part.  Standards for what passes for good argument have frankly just kinda 
>crapped out as far as I'm concerned.
>As I pass...Two things I want to share ... if you don't like reading my 
>junk.. just hit delete and go on with your day.
>STORY ONE: Title Vii of the housing discrimination act or something like 
>First story.. when I was at ENMU, we busted a top NDT program on a context 
>challenge (Title VII topic - Wayne State as host) AT THE NDT - in round 8.  
>My debater at the time didnt want to go out on a context challenge, but we 
>got the original article from another squad who had debaters end their 
>careers against their aff.  We lost on a 2-1 (we made the bust part of a 
>"solvency advocate" arg), where one judge chided us for questioning the 
>integrity of this program, another judge was FUMING and lectured this team 
>abotu how they should be thrown out, and the third judge voted for the 
>"NDT" program in question... they were confused and didnt want to pull the 
>The article was about Title VII of another act, not the Civil rights act we 
>were debating.  I had judged this aff run by a "first round" team against a 
>KU team where I almost voted against KU on this card that said their case 
>only added "7 more cases" to the topic, since 7 other agencies werent 
>covered by Title VII (of course the card was about another act...) I went 
>and found the "first round" team to tell them if they ran that case 
>again... Id bust them too.  They assured me they "jsut found out."  
>Apparently the story was no one bothered to look beyond the KWIC setting on 
>Lexis when they did research, and the card just got passed around.  Yeah.
>So the standing rules of the NDT say if any judge votes on an ethic 
>challenge, one did, the NDT committee is supposed to meet or something and 
>determine whether the team was thrown out.
>Didn't happen, Bear tried to tell me to find them.. I didn't.. I was a 
>coward... Everyone knew, and no one but Bear tried to help me.  The team in 
>fact cleared at the NDT, while my Greyhounds lost their last round.  That 
>has never left me...  I miss Bear, his voice was too loud at times, but he 
>always spoke out.
>I've always wondered if the roles were reversed and my team was busted by a 
>first round if we'dve been thrown out of the NDT or at least someone 
>would've talked about it.  Sometimes it seems like it never happened.. but 
>it did.  and it sucked that no one helped us out.  I can't believe one 
>judge actually yelled at my team for it.
>STORY TWO: The Crappy DA
>Phil Samuels on the Africa topic went and cut EXACTLY the same cards as a 
>"first round" debater so that we could run this disad.  We highlighted them 
>the same, read the same exact shell.. everything...   I heard two judges 
>tell our debaters how shitty their cards were and how they were crappily 
>The "first round" debater was top speaker, and ran the same damn disad.  
>One of the same judges read his cards and complimented him for the "hot 
>disad."  It still makes me laugh today.  Hypocrites.
>When people ask me why its time to get out of debate I keep thinking about 
>those stories.  I leave with a ton of great memories, greater people that I 
>know, but its time to get out.  For those of you who love it.. stay and 
>defend it. I'm done... I really am.   I heard rumblings at WVA JV Nats of 
>folks who have good ideas, you should listen to them.  Joe and Darren... 
>help those people get that stuff going.
>MPJ... screw it... you can't win in the middle anymore, ESU  teams used to 
>be able to go left or right, but now you gotta pick your judges so narrowly 
>you HAVE to pick a side, or get crushed by teams that go deep both ways.  
>It makes me sad, what happened to adaptation?
>Lastly...some of you will email me about the job, some of you are going to 
>email me as a person, and some of you could care less I'm sure.  But you 
>know, those of you I like the best... no matter what you do.. are the 
>honest ones.  The ones for whom bullshit politics are just that, and like 
>to take risks and speak your mind.  There are so many hypocrites in this 
>activity who watch other people go down, or like to speak like they are the 
>voices of purity who are just as tainted as the rest of us.  It's been 
>interesting to see this semester go down, when I was thinking about 
>leaving, because I got to hear so many of you just make asses of yourselves 
>when you thought I would never find out what you were saying.
>Hilarious... get over yourselves... really.
>So, I'm glad all things considered that Darren and Joe were elected, I'm 
>sad I will not be teaching public speaking - I really do love that class, 
>and I pass on the torch to the next Head Hornet who will have to fight an 
>uphill battle against folks who just wanna live in Lawrence or who can't 
>avoid someone else's checkbook.  Good luck with that...I've left the 
>cupboard full :)  I'm off to make more money to pay off my student loans, 
>I love debate, for 22 years I have done it... at Sumner Academy, KSU, 
>Missouri Southern, UCO, ENMU and now Emporia.  I love that I was the kid 
>from the inner city in Wyandotte County that got to live a dream, and now 
>I'm off to live another dream.  I'm sure I'll still be around, and I'm sure 
>I'll need money in law school, but maybe it's time to see if I can help 
>someone a different way.  Thanks to Sue, Ermo, Marlowe, Papa Duke, Schro 
>and Glen for the chances. (sorry Ermo, I just decided today!)
>Hey Stannard, I'll still do the co-op :)  fight the machine.
>I'll end with,
>BAGGINS - NO DATE  (Bilbo, Ring Bearer, LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring, 
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/quotes, acc: March 16, 2006, KD)
>"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less 
>than half of you half as well as you deserve. "
>Have fun :) now get back to your damned NDT prep! Except to watch Boston 
>Legal.  In fact some of you would enjoy Boston Legal far more than your NDT 
>P.S. - HA! Kiss my ass Gimley, oh yeah you can F*&% off too.
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