[eDebate] Geez - We have no method......

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Sun May 7 09:26:07 CDT 2006

I think this explains how the cattle is herded, but what are the pillars of pedigogy utilized to create a topic 

I gave examples of important issues that should be discussed before solvency advocates are chased down 
and filed together.

I do not doubt how the process you describes works, nor do I doubt that everyone works very hard towards a 
common goal of creating a topic.

If you want to say nothing "shady" happens in this community dealing with rules, what the topic areas are and 
other issues, then you are really just kissing some a$$ right now.

So your post was nice, nor do I doubt what you say, but there is step one and two and you explained steps 3 
and 4.  I dont doubt the role you played nor anyone who shows up.

Yes I am coming for sure, I have no doubts about this.  Which was my position last year, that if you dont show 
up, and dont have a tight network with someone there, then your SOL  (which you agreed with).

See you in KC


> Maybe this isn't it.. but I have this to say.
> I was at the topic committee meeting... seems to me pretty simple, 
> they talk 
> about ideas, we have framing discussions, had wording discussions, 
> etc.  
> Paul Mose and Joelle Japser were there too... and I got assigned 
> one night 
> to make sure the co-op topic, at least in the space cooperation 
> section was 
> worded correctly.  If my freshman can get input... so can anyone.
> I think I was assigned to talk about exploration the next day... we 
> had 
> meetings, folks there got research assignments to check cases, 
> etc... and 
> solvency articles... and we crafted.
> There was nothing backchannel or shady about it Jackie, you just 
> had to show 
> up.  In the case of JT you just had to be online to get IMs or 
> emails from 
> me about how you thought the wording should go.
> Even undergrads got assignments... people had opinions, but by and 
> large the 
> process was open and as far as crafting resolutions go.. I felt I 
> got 
> everything in I wanted to say.  We got the co-op resolution we 
> wanted people 
> to look at and vote on.
> It didn't win, but I felt I crafted or helped craft a China 
> resolution, so I 
> can die happy now.
> NO ONE on the commitee pretended to be an expert, and Eric Suni was 
> probably 
> quickest on the box to get info.  Hell even Ede was talking about 
> solvency 
> advocates, etc...ground.  I found it one of the most DEMYSTIFYING 
> processes 
> I've ever seen.  Everyone at home I communicated with got input.
> Yeah its hard to get to Kansas City, but if you want to shape the 
> topic, its 
> worth the trip.  Hell I'm leaving for law school and I'm trying to 
> get to 
> the topic meeting just because the process itself was pretty damned 
> cool and 
> open.
> I love ya Jackie, but dude... go to KC and see it firsthand.  It's 
> not all 
> that damned elitist, its pretty populist.  Ross Smith makes good 
> jokes too.  
> Everyone gets input... but you know decisions are made.
> Ken D.
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