[eDebate] fyi: policy debate in the press

matt stannard stannardmatt
Fri Nov 3 02:28:10 CST 2006

I agree.  In fact, the fact that Rove was the intro (and the anecdotes were 
hardly original) made it a particularly bad piece.  The author seemed not to 
want to be writing it after a while too.  We can certainly do better--I'd 
love to be part of some organic debate press if anyone else is interested.


>From: "Andy Ellis" <andy.edebate at gmail.com>
>To: "pete bsumek" <bsumekpk at jmu.edu>
>CC: edebate at ndtceda.com
>Subject: Re: [eDebate] fyi: policy debate in the press
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:15:14 -0500
>This story is not so good. I mean it is for edgemont, but common mother
>jones you can do better than this...and how come mother jones a publication
>known for its connection to progressive struggles so focused on style and
>sub culture and so dismissive of all politics. And how come they are
>sooooooo excited about the fromer debaters thats have contributed to the
>powers they (often) work against. I wish i could say it was atypical, but
>its like every debate story ever written...you know what i would like to 
>is a debate story where the non counter cultural referents(brad pitt, 
>ted turner, congress, potus)   are a) people of color (i know oprah is
>black) and b) contributing to progressive betterment of peoples lives using
>the political and advocacy skills they learned in debate. But its always
>this president or this corporate executive or this lawyer or f'in Karl
>Rove...So lets do the mother jones piece better than they and perhaps
>generate that list of progressive social actors who have come from amongst
>our ranks...the challenge of course will be naming the ones who have not
>done so through a) supreme court law or b) mainstream political
>action.Imnot saying state bad judge, you shouldn't work through it or
>the law
>either...lets name those people as well, but  can we counter karl rove with
>a progressive or radical example?

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