[eDebate] Judges

Doug Dennis blackdebateguy
Mon Oct 30 10:09:41 CST 2006

I guess I'm just at a loss about why people are sooo surprised by this. The
activity is predominately male and white. Most of the debaters as well as
most of the coaches.

And congrats to Tristian Morales, for being the only "underrepresented
minority" on the list too.

Yeah MPJ!! You get what you ask for, and sometimes you ask for NO DIVERSITY.

Doug Dennis
UC Santa Cruz Debate

On 10/30/06 7:45 AM, "NEIL BERCH" <berchnorto at msn.com> wrote:

> Over the course of the tournament, teams that ended up clearing saw 15%
> women judges.  Teams that ended up going 2-6 or worse saw 31% women judges.
> Your point would be well-taken if this were an isolated situation.
> --Neil Berch
> West Virginia University
>> From: "Martin Harris" <mharris02 at drury.edu>
>> To: <berchnorto at msn.com>
>> CC: <edebate at ndtceda.com>
>> Subject: Re: [eDebate] Harvard -- Octos Judges -- 8am
>> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:29:54 -0600
>>> Did the 16 best teams at Harvard just pref 24 men and no women? Wow.
>>> --Neil Berch
>>> West Virginia University
>> I won't make conclusions or arguments about the make up of octos judges
>> in general, but I am not sure it is fair to say the outround
>> participants prefed NO women. Round 8 kind of demonstrated to me for the
>> first time how difficult the MUTUAL thing might be to make. It is
>> possible, even if not probable, that the outround teams all preferred a
>> significant number of women, but those prefs weren't mutual. My
>> understanding is there was a round 8 matching that literally had 1 judge
>> in the entire pool that could fit as an A-A match. I am just saying, we
>> should be careful to make inferences off of data. Correlation does not
>> necessarily suggest causation.
>> Martin Harris
>> Computer and Graphics Support Specialist
>> Hammons School of Architecture, Drury University
>> Office Phone: (417) 873-7497
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