[eDebate] Ranking Teams for Purpose of Presets

Steve Mancuso mancussp
Wed Sep 20 11:54:41 CDT 2006

Pre-set rankings prevent EVERY team from debating schedules which are  
too hard OR too easy.  They equalize the pre-set draw for all teams.   
I certainly welcome any system that would prevent one of my teams --  
my top team or my fourth team -- from debating two "first round bid"  
calibre teams in pre-set rounds.   Random pairings, while equal in  
process, are incredibly unequal in results.

It should be said that there is a difficulty with pre-set rankings at  
the start of the year  in that there is little information to base  
the rankings on many new teams/debaters.

Steve Mancuso

On Sep 20, 2006, at 12:43 PM, scottelliott at grandecom.net wrote:

> We need philsopher-kings to divine who the top teams are for pre- 
> sets. Only, who
> is watching the Guardians of the elite teams? Why is it that only  
> elite teams
> deserve "friendly" pre-set draws. For a bunch of leftist academics,  
> your
> elitisim  and sense of entitlement is sickening.  It seems to me  
> that this
> strategy of ranking temas for pre-sets gives an unfair advantage to  
> teams that
> did well the previous year, or have some type of "rep," and it also  
> functions
> to keep bottom feeder/new teams on the bottom.
> It seems to me that it would suck for a small/new program to send  
> its teams to a
> big tournamnet, to have them be ranked low and have to hit Harvard  
> A, Dartmouth
> A and Emory A in the first three rounds, just so that we can
> prevent--horrors--Dartmouth A from hitting Emory A in the first two  
> rounds. I
> mean, if there are eight rounds, there is plenty of rounds left  
> after rounds
> one and two to work your way up the "back of the bracket."
> Why you all are at it, why not just have a committee of
> coaches/debaters--obviously the ones that are considered to be the  
> "best"
> --establish who the best teams are before the tournamnet, and just  
> break
> striaght to octofinals. We could then email or call the other teams  
> and tell
> not to bother showing up because the tournament committee has  
> already decided
> who the best teams are.
> Scott
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