[eDebate] Meeting/Participation Concerns

Adam Farra adamhfar
Sun Apr 1 19:23:10 CDT 2007

I was just throwing the idea out - more importantly I think the  
question is "why on earth should 15-20 students determine the  
elections for the representative of the entire student populations"?

On Apr 1, 2007, at 5:35 PM, Sarah Snider wrote:

> Why on earth would student elections for CEDA positions be held at  
> the NDT?
> On 3/31/07, Adam Farra <adamhfar at umich.edu > wrote:
> I think Candice's attempts are noble and in good-faith, but I would  
> have to say that I'm not too sure about the "post-election" reforms  
> as really solving the problem that Gabe et. al. have cited.
> Most importantly, I think that when Gabe talks about the lack of  
> student representation he is talking about a pretty specific  
> problem with this year's elections: that the elections only  
> represented 15-20 students in an activity where, at the NDT alone,  
> there are over 170 (pretty sure).
> I want to be clear on this: I don't know Candice very well, and  
> from what I've read she seems like a noble candidate, so this is  
> not a criticism of her, but of the skewed system of elections. The  
> question of student participation is one that must be addressed  
> first with student elections - indeed, the inclusion of MORE  
> students (or at least a population that is somewhat representative  
> of the population) in the election of the student representative is  
> a pre-requisite to the general reforms of the "structures" that  
> allow student participation in the topic process, the community's  
> rules, etc.
> Is there some way to do another election? Maybe at the NDT? Maybe  
> online? Maybe...through e-mail ballots?? This would probably  
> dramatically increase the amount of students voting - and it even  
> lets students who could not go to CEDA (like me for school reasons)  
> be more invested in their community general through participating  
> in the election process.
> And, seriously, I don't think Candice is a bad person - I think  
> everything she's said is intelligent, but I really do think that  
> 15-20 students voting for a population of 300 or some is  
> just...well...it's BS, frankly.
> Adam
> On Mar 31, 2007, at 1:11 PM, candice moore wrote:
>> I am very sorry that some of the students who wanted to attend the  
>> Student Rep Meeting and the Elections were not able to go due to  
>> travel issues or any other issue hindering them from attending  
>> both of these very important meetings. I will make sure in the  
>> future that we post the times and rooms reserved for these  
>> meetings more than they were this year as well as having the  
>> National Student Rep post as well. I understand that there was  
>> some confusion as to where the first meeting was held and that the  
>> time of the second meeting should of been held later than I  
>> already did that evening. I would have also delayed the meetings  
>> if I knew that more than three schools at the time of registration  
>> had notified someone from CEDA of their travel issues. I also  
>> tried to prolong these meeting as much as I could so maybe that  
>> some people could still attend. Because of those reasons I thought  
>> having a blog would be a great idea so that the students who could  
>> not represent themselves in person could write about their ideas  
>> or opinions and discuss it. I think that what Gabe had to say  
>> about the 15-20 persons representing the students not being  
>> adequate to the size of the community is a BIG example as to how  
>> we need to start getting out into the community and having more  
>> participation. I wouldn't blame travel issues to the only reason  
>> we have a lack of students participation but also take into  
>> consideration that the students that I heard speak out at the  
>> Student Meeting said that they didn't have a lot of information  
>> about any of the roles we are elected for. That is why I am in the  
>> process of making a handbook on the duties or roles that a Student  
>> Rep., National Student Rep., and a Topic Comm. Rep. will perform  
>> during their terms. I am making sure that we do not have these  
>> problems or issues anymore. I am also trying to do more with the  
>> roles we are elected into and really show the community that a  
>> students voice does matter. I think a big question we should be  
>> asking ourselves is how do we get more participation with an  
>> activity we all love and respect? How do we show the community we  
>> care about their ideas and opinions no matter what they are? The  
>> only thing I can say is start talking to everyone about what  
>> should happen and then act on it and make sure you have a Student  
>> Rep. elected in your area. Also start using the blog as a non- 
>> biased forum to express your opinions. Again I am sorry that some  
>> students couldn't attend the meetings and will make sure that the  
>> National Student Rep. next year will take the extra step to make  
>> sure all our voices are heard.
>> Thanks for the responses and ideas for a better future,
>> Candice Moore
>> National Student Rep. 2006-2007
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