[eDebate] Debaters who became policy makers

Steven D'Amico stevendamico
Wed Apr 18 20:30:22 CDT 2007

Ross tried to be a policy-maker, but then the newspapers wouldn't publish
our Pro-Ross LTEs anymore.

Damn biased media. We'll get the bastards next time.

In Solidarity,


On 4/18/07, Ross K. Smith <smithr at wfu.edu> wrote:
> Stop the marginalizing, Ellis.
> First you say, "I have often heard about the mythical effects debate has
> in placing people in the policy making world..."
> Mythical? You assert from the outset that the effect is mythical.  Nice.
> Just asking an innocent, honest question, eh?
> Then it gets worse, " . . . excluding ross's definition where we are all
> policy makers..."
> Why not just say "ignoring" or, better yet, "marginalizing" my entire
> argument. You call it a mere "definition" as if I simply posited it and
> it had no significance.
> Instead you demand a list of "celebrity" policy makers? Ones with "real"
> power? My whole point was that the real power that matters is with each
> of our daily responsibilities to ethically conduct ourselves. Debate
> about public policy is a method of teaching us skills to help us in that
> inevitable endeavor. Every time we diminish the opportunity to engage in
> that form of education we hurt the people who miss out. Every round.
> Every program that disappears.
> I recieved not a single quibble with my argument. (Fir reference, it is
> here: http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/2007-April/070516.html
> I put a lot of work into taking the earlier questions seriously.
> Of course, in the long run if the attacks on policy debate succeed we
> will have no names to give you. No names of anyone, "significant" or not
> who has been helped by the unique learning opportunity that is policy
> debate.
> Meanwhile, check out Wes Clark. Wanna see what he is doing with his old
> school NDT policy debate experience? http://securingamerica.com/
> But again, and finally, what is the point of your quest for names and
> positions? My argument is that we would all be better off if all of our
> officials, elected and appointed, had rigorous policy debate training.
> God knows our current president had none.
> --
> Ross K. Smith
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