[eDebate] to be more blunt
Tue Jul 17 12:56:36 CDT 2007
I am not interested in this.
I do not want my new debaters marginalized with a "special" topic.
My proposal does this in a different way: everyone who wants a simpler
topic can do CEDA with a new topic system, and those who don't want it
can do NDT.
NEIL BERCH wrote:
> The other way to do it would be to have a "normal" resolution along
> the lines of what Tuna is talking about and a super-duper resolution
> for national circuit tournaments. Same idea, different form of
> isolation (and I would argue a better one). This would have lots of
> unintended consequences, and I'm not sure off the top of my head how
> they would balance out (i.e., would it increase or decrease
> participation in open divisions at regional tournaments? I could see
> it working either way), but it might be worth talking about.
> --Neil Berch
> West Virginia University
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> *From:* Josh <mailto:jbhdb8 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Alfred Snider <mailto:alfred.snider at uvm.edu>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:24 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [eDebate] to be more blunt
> Might I make a compromise suggestion?
> Back in the not so distant past we had a seperate version of the
> topic that was designed to be more Novice friendly. I know the
> immediate reaction will be that this creates a "second class"
> novice division....However, programs that want novices to debate
> the novice less confusing option can go to tournaments that
> support a novice topic and those that dont can go to tournaments
> that support the normal national topic.
> I think one thing that has been enthusiastically demonstrated is
> that there are MANY different approaches to coaching debate and to
> coaching novice debate,,,In addition, there are many different
> reasons programs have left or are considering leaving.
> I will admit I have always been in the doghouse, in a sense, with
> coaches who support novice because I ten to not work with novices
> or develop a novice based squad. I can understand why people feel
> that way.
> We could even have a seperate "novice" wording committee comprised
> of people who are very expert in what novices need etc.
> Just a suggestion for us all working together to create a more
> inclusive community despite our differences,
> I have, and have always had, the utmost respect for Tuna,
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