[eDebate] steve? sawyer? -- your answers

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Fri Jun 15 19:03:31 CDT 2007


Some questions for steve since you wanted to join the conversation

1 - No this is not my suggestion  and it is not "necessarily like"  sound like the beginning of a bad argument.  (see your Kunta 
Kinte analagy) - 
oh wait, there is no argument here.......

who's the troll now?

2 -  i am trolling for kelly young and he hasnt responded yet -- i know he usually diagrees with me

i need to respond to ken sherwood, but havent read his whole post yet.........


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Yesterday, Jackie asked: "does verbalizing things you 
disagree with change your perspective." It can, but 
to suggest that reading an aff that you disagree with 
is necessarily like Kunta Kinte calling himself "Toby" 
seems pretty absurd to me. Collegiate debate is a 
relatively free forum. It's totally possible to 
verbalize something while disagreeing with it. See 
the WGLF. It's called trolling, and aside of its 
political implications, it's also a great way to get 
off some steam. 

See the Wiki: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll 
Some examples, a "not news" site: 
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2867896#new 
(attention to KrispieKringle there) 
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2869516 
(attention to Skleenar and skookum) 
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2861628 
(advanced exercise - spot the trolls on your own.) 

Trolling solves Jackie's concerns about banking and 
verbalizing because it allows you to test the extremes 
of ideas that you find repugnant. If your concern is 
that switch-side debate forces people to the center, 
trolling totally obliterates any hope of finding 
common ground. The entire purpose is to force the 
debate to the extreme, and it works. 

Of course there are some negatives to trolling. For 
the political activist, it could backfire and cause 
people to question your actual motives. For the 
debate community in general, it can be patently 
uncivil and irritating. Yet, it is a valid option for 
those who disagree with any given topic. 

Lastly, for those who think that "topicality still 
sucks" may want to consider what happens to political 
activists who decide to totally avoid the topic: 
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/02/02krally.phtml 

Troll away, 
Steve 
Formerly Catholic Debate 




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