[eDebate] idea #1 (reply donald)
Wed Jun 20 17:11:53 CDT 2007
-- donald -- http://www.ndtceda.com/pipermail/edebate/2007-June/071128.html
"Yes, I agree that the fact that debaters are taught to run some sort of T
violation in every round is absolutely ridiculous."
i'm guessing a lot on this list would agree, but what does anyone intend to
actually do about it?
here's my proposal: encourage more and more judges to weigh all procedural
abuse violations as ethics challenges. if you accuse your opponent of, say,
fabricating evidence, and your accusation is shown to be false, then you
automatically lose the round. there's no chance of your being voted up on
any other issue; the round is then only about whether or not evidence has
likewise, when you accuse your opponent of violating one of the most basic
rules of discussion (a violation for which tim mahoney is willing to call
you "an uninvited party crasher" and perhaps willing to 'show you the
you're saying is that the debate cannot continue as usual. once such an
accusation is made, the round can only be decided upon that basis, nothing
if judges notified debaters of this paradigm before the round, it'd
immediately cut down on timesuck topicality violations, because the team
would be unable to run it and then kick it in later speeches. that'd be an
automatic loss. it'd also make students more mindful of calling their
opponents 'plagiarists' for running plan-inclusive counter-plans, or other
oft-unconsidered in-round implications of typical theoretical 'abuse'
you'll say the affirmative team will simply refrain from answering all other
arguments once a procedural argument is run, and you'd be right. however,
this then encourages the negative team to run their procedurals in the 2n.c.
*after* the affirmative has committed whatever infractions - say, swarmily
no-linking out of a generic disadvantage.
if even a small number of judges adopted this decision-calculus, my guess is
the effect on argument quality would be substantial. who'd be willing to
sacrifice a single ballot on a tight panel in an out-round by running a
frivilous topicality violation?... nobody interested in winning tournaments,
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