[eDebate] Topic Papers, and Pigs in a Poke

Gordon Stables stables
Tue May 22 10:03:22 CDT 2007

Scott, and all,

Thanks for the input. We are a little busy at the moment, but let me make a
couple of comments.

1) Any CEDA member may propose changes to the constitution. If the
membership doesn't like the two-tiered ballot and role of the committee they
may alter or adjust our charge.  Our current structure allows the community
to submit topics and then the committee finalizes those wordings. 

2) There are 'no pigs in the poke.' The Israel debate, like Afghanistan, was
a question raised in the original paper. Unlike prior years, every issue
raised was part of paper available months ago. The community was then
encouraged to provide wording papers, and some, like Hays Watson, did so.
Many of our discussions today are based on community feedback (like the
merits of including Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan).  

Thanks for the feedback. The committee is always open to discussion. I will,
humbly, and finally add today that this is a very open and predictable

Thanks to the community for your feedback. 


Gordon Stables, Ph.D.
Director of Debate
Annenberg School for Communication
University of Southern California
Office: 213 740 2759               Fax: 213 740 3913

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Subject: [eDebate] Topic Papers, and Pigs in a Poke

I have been checking out the cedablog site concerning the current topic
selection and selection process.

I think the Mid-East as a problem area is great and timely.  My problem is
the current topic paper writing process. Namely, most papers do not focus on
resolutions. I posit that anybody can make a case for well over 50 topic
any given year. Proliferation, genetic engineering, Healthcare in America,
Environmental problems, relations with XY and Z countires and/or regions.
is the relatively easy part. What is much tougher is framing resolutions
are debatable and do not suck.

Example: Hey, everybody, let's debate the U.S. Supreme Court. YEE HAW!!!!
drafted resolutional choices led to the selection of, in my opinion, a
drafted resolution being chosen and debated--a decision everyone is stuck
for an entire year. mmm! mmm! Loved those Planned Parenthood case debates.

Now we have a mad dash over literally three or four days to draft
resolutions--one of which we will be stuck with for an entire year.

I AM NOT KNOCKING the hard work that is going into resolution drafting that
currently going on. Nor am I knocking the topic area. I know exactly how
work is involved in research a  topic area (see genetic engineering paper).
am also very much aware of how much thought--reflective thought--is
to draft an adequate debate resolution.

Proposal:  My proposal is quite simple: Next year's topic papers should be
required to provide at least 10 draft resolutions and an analysis of those
resolutions. Reasons why key terms were chosen and/or not chosen. Then at
three of those resolutions should be included on the topic ballot.

Why? Because of this "pig-in-a-poke" syndrome, an unintentional
routine that seems to occur every year when the topic committe meets for
or four days of hasty decisionmaking.

Example: This morning I read that ISRAEL is now being considered as a topic
country. WTF? So, person A thinks she was voting for a substantial change
the Bush policy of kissing Israeli ass as a topic area. She then wakes up in
June or July to find out that we can now increase relations with Israel.
of the proposals now look like a Pro-Bush extension of foriegn policy will
affirmative gorund. Example 2: Saudi Arabia is now being included on the
of possible countries. Now, if we were to have a "pucker list" of countries
U.S. currently sucks up to, it would have to be #1 Israel and #2 Saudi
So, my plan to increase the number of desalinization plants in Saudi Arabia
good to go. My plan to have more student exchange programs with Israeli
Kibuttzes is good to go. Not a problem. But I don't think this is what
thought they would be debating when they voted for a Mid-East resolution.

So, bottom-line this topic selection and topic resolution writing is flawed.
get stuck with inferior and I dare say, ill-considered, resolutions for an
entire year. There is a solution--require topic papers that actually propose
resolutions and guarantee that at least some of those resolutions will apear
the topic ballot. This will solve for the "rush to write resolutions in just
couple days" problem we see every year and will solve for the
resolutionjacking that seems to occur every year.

Like I said, I know for a fact how much hard work and dedication is
necessary to
craft quality resolutions. And, I believe that everone that is working on it
right now has the best of intentions. But, as academics we should all
the cardinal rule of good writing--edit, reflect, edit again. The current
process does not allow for such reflective thought and careful editing. As a
result, we keep getting stuck with resolutions that suck.


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