[eDebate] TOURNAMENT CALENDER: FEB '08 AND BEYOND

matt stannard stannardmatt
Fri Sep 7 18:33:28 CDT 2007


I can predict, with almost utter certainty, that resource-rich programs will ignore any arguments about cost differential, while resource-challenged programs will be able to relate.  Last year I asked whether every tournament host would be willing to cut their fees even by a SMALL amount.  Like if every tournament charged even $20 less per team, Wyoming would save over $1000 on the season.  Apart from one indignant backchannel, I was completely ignored.  Unfortunately, it's even less likely that anyone will listen to a legitimate complaint about transportation costs.  
 
(By the way...whatever happened to the trophies at Northwestern that didn't arrive but were promised later?  We'd like our octos and speaker award trophies...hell, maybe they could spring for some cheap certificates).
 
stannard


Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:47:09 -0400From: vikeenan at gmail.comTo: edebate at ndtceda.comSubject: Re: [eDebate] TOURNAMENT CALENDER: FEB '08 AND BEYONDokay . . . .first question of primary importance:  Will this year's tournament in Austin again be referred to as "the Kinky" (as in Friedman)?secondary question, which highlights some of the issue Scott raised earlier this month: What am I supposed to do if I budgeted for Chicago?Now, I admit I bring this up as someone who will definitely have regional travel options no matter the weekend, and who doesn't care about NDT bids, but I'm in a privileged (geographical) place . . . From NYC where I have 3 major airports to choose from, it's over $115 more per ticket to Austin than to Chicago. (Ironically, cheapest one flies THROUGH Chicago). Also, NW has been arranged in the past so that I haven't needed to rent a car, a pretty significant cost.  I just reread the last Austin tournament invitation (for Feb 06, posted in the Dec 05 edebate archives under Texas Tournie Invite for those of you who hadn't been there like me, or are new and looking for some preliminary details), and back then it seemed pretty clear I'd need to rent a car (and pay for campus parking). Is this probably still going to be true?For two teams, that's about $750 more.  For those of you who's flights just got cheaper this year, I'm excited. But just keep in mind some of us got affected the other way. Not against having the tournie at UT - would love to see folks, but this is a good example of why Scott's concerns about invites and schedules are pretty relevant, especially if your budget was submitted in May.  The post about plans to 09 and beyond was incredibly helpful on this point though, and I really appreciate it. Seems like a good start towards that goal. -VIK(from the region where novices are plenty, and so is cold weather in February)-- Vik KeenanDirector - Baruch Debate, CUNYAssoc. Director - New York Coalition of Colleges 212/992-9641 or 347/683-6894 
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