[eDebate] A Message to the Debate Community
Mon Apr 7 15:47:18 CDT 2008
I feel like that doesn't answer my question...
When you say something like:
"I honestly hope that none of the "backlash" you are referring to has to do
with race....If you have felt that way that is really too bad. If the
community really was that reactionary and unaccepting how could Towson have
won the CEDA tournament?"
I think it illustrates the point I'm making. It's important that Deven and
Dayvon were black in relation to winning the tournament. When you say "how
could they have won", it was because they had good arguments, and in a lot
of ways, the community (for the first time) had to be held accountable for
the decisions it makes on the national stage.
I would like to think that at the core, a lot of the debate community has no
problem with the aesthetic of Deven and Dayvon winning the tournament, but I
want to know what is the core reason behind why it is so difficult for
people to accept that there are PROBLEMS with the debate community, and
there are screwed up people in the debate community that must be held
accountable for their screwed up justifications.
Besides that, back to my original question...
What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in this
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Josh <jbhdb8 at gmail.com> wrote:
> First, I think there has been a large outpouring of support and cheers
> even on edebate for Towson. I personally have seen about twenty letters
> just on edebate (and personally tried to find every coach and debater and
> offered congrats myself in email and face to face at the NDT).
> Second, I think anytime a team that hasn't cleared at most major
> tournaments it comes as a suprise that they won a tournament. In this case
> a happy suprise. I honestly hope that none of the "backlash" you are
> referring to has to do with race....If you have felt that way that is really
> too bad. If the community really was that reactionary and unaccepting how
> could Towson have won the CEDA tournament?
> I also think given the back-to-back nature of CEDA-NDT sometimes
> congratulations are not loud enough.
> If people have not said it enough, CONGRATS to Towson and all of their
> coaches. As a former CEDA national champion, I am very pleased to welcome
> Towson to the list of former champs! What you accomplished is incredible
> and should be celebrated,
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Adam Jackson <baltimoredebate at gmail.com>
> > As a sidebar from the obviously important topic discussion...
> > I have a question for the debate community...
> > What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in this
> > activity?
> > All of you can run ANYTHING you want and people stay silent (i.e.
> > Imperialism good, the "gangsta mentality") . At almost every tournament, the
> > majority of the top debaters who win are white men. AND you
> > are regarded within the highest levels of success in policy debate,
> > politics, economics and class.
> > But why is it when two black men win a tournament like CEDA, arguing for
> > things we care about, there's a public outcry to how "wrong" it is?
> > I know this hasn't been a subject of too much controversy on eDebate,
> > but it has been on a lot of news sites and blogs, and I'm totally sick to my
> > stomach with all the disgusting and deplorable comments made in
> > Towson's direction.
> > Have we done you wrong or something?
> > Have we been "too black" lately?
> > We're not assimilating fast enough for ya?
> > All the work we do to liberate ourselves psychologically from this white
> > world, of white supremacy according to your white standards, and YOUR the
> > one's who are mad when WE get sick and tired of adhering to them.
> > The part that makes it even worse is that the majority of you won't even
> > recognize how fucked up it is, and I'm pissed off about it.
> > I've been quiet the past few week, but now I'm done being quiet...
> > CAN ANY OF YOU TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
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Adam J. Jackson
Mac Specialist, Apple Store, Towson Town Center
Public Relations Officer, Towson University Speech and Debate
Director of Advertisement, Brotherhood:LOABS
Webmaster, Black Student Union, Towson University
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