[eDebate] A Message to the Debate Community

Greg Thomas greg.thomas
Mon Apr 7 15:51:46 CDT 2008


> Besides that, back to my original question...
>
> What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in this
> activity?
>

Taking this question at face value, the easy answer is "nothing".  I think
the question that need be answered is why this treatment takes place in
light of the fact nothing has been done to deserve it.

Greg Thomas
Methodist University Debate


>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Josh <jbhdb8 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > First, I think there has been a large outpouring of support and cheers
> > even on edebate for Towson.  I personally have seen about twenty letters
> > just on edebate (and personally tried to find every coach and debater and
> > offered congrats myself in email and face to face at the NDT).
> >
> > Second, I think anytime a team that hasn't cleared at most major
> > tournaments it comes as a suprise that they won a tournament.  In this case
> > a happy suprise.  I honestly hope that none of the "backlash" you are
> > referring to has to do with race....If you have felt that way that is really
> > too bad.  If the community really was that reactionary and unaccepting how
> > could Towson have won the CEDA tournament?
> >
> > I also think given the back-to-back nature of CEDA-NDT sometimes
> > congratulations are not loud enough.
> >
> > If people have not said it enough, CONGRATS to Towson and all of their
> > coaches.  As a former CEDA national champion, I am very pleased to welcome
> > Towson to the list of former champs!  What you accomplished is incredible
> > and should be celebrated,
> >
> > Josh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Adam Jackson <baltimoredebate at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > As a sidebar from the obviously important topic discussion...
> > >
> > > I have a question for the debate community...
> > > What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in this
> > > activity?
> > >
> > > All of you can run ANYTHING you want and people stay silent (i.e.
> > > Imperialism good, the "gangsta mentality") . At almost every tournament, the
> > > majority of the top debaters who win are white men. AND you
> > > are regarded within the highest levels of success in policy debate,
> > > politics, economics and class.
> > >
> > > But why is it when two black men win a tournament like CEDA, arguing
> > > for things we care about, there's a public outcry to how "wrong" it is?
> > >
> > > I know this hasn't been a subject of too much controversy on eDebate,
> > > but it has been on a lot of news sites and blogs, and I'm totally sick to my
> > > stomach with all the disgusting and deplorable comments made in
> > > Towson's direction.
> > >
> > > Have we done you wrong or something?
> > >
> > > Have we been "too black" lately?
> > >
> > > We're not assimilating fast enough for ya?
> > >
> > > All the work we do to liberate ourselves psychologically from this
> > > white world, of white supremacy according to your white standards, and YOUR
> > > the one's who are mad when WE get sick and tired of adhering to them.
> > >
> > > The part that makes it even worse is that the majority of you won't
> > > even recognize how fucked up it is, and I'm pissed off about it.
> > >
> > > I've been quiet the past few week, but now I'm done being quiet...
> > >
> > > CAN ANY OF YOU TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
> > >
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>
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