[eDebate] A Message to the Debate Community

Greg Thomas greg.thomas
Mon Apr 7 16:00:51 CDT 2008


Can't.  I imagine that the answer is different for each person who treats
someone in a discriminatory or harmful way.  Maybe some people are jealous
of the success at CEDA, maybe some people are racist, maybe some people like
to find a reason that they lost that is not "I wasn't good enough".  Either
way, I imagine there are a ton of reasons for this kind of behavior, none of
which are any good.  Some people are stupid/bad or both.  Now, the next
question to ask is:  how to fix the situation?

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Adam Jackson <baltimoredebate at gmail.com>
wrote:

> OK...then answer it.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Greg Thomas <greg.thomas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Besides that, back to my original question...
> > >
> > > What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in this
> > > activity?
> > >
> >
> > Taking this question at face value, the easy answer is "nothing".  I
> > think the question that need be answered is why this treatment takes place
> > in light of the fact nothing has been done to deserve it.
> >
> > Greg Thomas
> > Methodist University Debate
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Josh <jbhdb8 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > First, I think there has been a large outpouring of support and
> > > > cheers even on edebate for Towson.  I personally have seen about twenty
> > > > letters just on edebate (and personally tried to find every coach and
> > > > debater and offered congrats myself in email and face to face at the NDT).
> > > >
> > > > Second, I think anytime a team that hasn't cleared at most major
> > > > tournaments it comes as a suprise that they won a tournament.  In this case
> > > > a happy suprise.  I honestly hope that none of the "backlash" you are
> > > > referring to has to do with race....If you have felt that way that is really
> > > > too bad.  If the community really was that reactionary and unaccepting how
> > > > could Towson have won the CEDA tournament?
> > > >
> > > > I also think given the back-to-back nature of CEDA-NDT sometimes
> > > > congratulations are not loud enough.
> > > >
> > > > If people have not said it enough, CONGRATS to Towson and all of
> > > > their coaches.  As a former CEDA national champion, I am very pleased to
> > > > welcome Towson to the list of former champs!  What you accomplished is
> > > > incredible and should be celebrated,
> > > >
> > > > Josh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Adam Jackson <
> > > > baltimoredebate at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As a sidebar from the obviously important topic discussion...
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a question for the debate community...
> > > > > What have black people done to deserve the treatment we get in
> > > > > this activity?
> > > > >
> > > > > All of you can run ANYTHING you want and people stay silent (i.e.
> > > > > Imperialism good, the "gangsta mentality") . At almost every tournament, the
> > > > > majority of the top debaters who win are white men. AND you
> > > > > are regarded within the highest levels of success in policy debate,
> > > > > politics, economics and class.
> > > > >
> > > > > But why is it when two black men win a tournament like CEDA,
> > > > > arguing for things we care about, there's a public outcry to how "wrong" it
> > > > > is?
> > > > >
> > > > > I know this hasn't been a subject of too much controversy on
> > > > > eDebate, but it has been on a lot of news sites and blogs, and I'm totally
> > > > > sick to my stomach with all the disgusting and deplorable comments made in
> > > > > Towson's direction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have we done you wrong or something?
> > > > >
> > > > > Have we been "too black" lately?
> > > > >
> > > > > We're not assimilating fast enough for ya?
> > > > >
> > > > > All the work we do to liberate ourselves psychologically from this
> > > > > white world, of white supremacy according to your white standards, and YOUR
> > > > > the one's who are mad when WE get sick and tired of adhering to them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The part that makes it even worse is that the majority of you
> > > > > won't even recognize how fucked up it is, and I'm pissed off about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been quiet the past few week, but now I'm done being quiet...
> > > > >
> > > > > CAN ANY OF YOU TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
> > > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Adam J. Jackson
> > > Mac Specialist, Apple Store, Towson Town Center
> > > Public Relations Officer, Towson University Speech and Debate
> > > Director of Advertisement, Brotherhood:LOABS
> > > Webmaster, Black Student Union, Towson University
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> Adam J. Jackson
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> Public Relations Officer, Towson University Speech and Debate
> Director of Advertisement, Brotherhood:LOABS
> Webmaster, Black Student Union, Towson University
> Cell: 443.824.4273
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