[eDebate] A Message to the Debate Community

Josh jbhdb8
Mon Apr 7 23:17:06 CDT 2008

On a larger note,

I am sorry this gets me so pissed.  I just have learned over a TON of years
how hard it is to even consistantly clear at national level tournaments that
it just makes my blood boil to here people say "it was given to them." Or a
"secret cabal" did it.

So many teams with so many totally different styles have made the sacrifices
necessary to be competitive and put in those hours...I just get super mad
when its made to sound like all you need to do is "get in" to one of the
"best debate schools" and you immediately somehow get to late elims.  Its a
bunch of baloney.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Josh <jbhdb8 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Things Elliot said implying a conspiracy at the NDT (not before or
> structurally) in the original letter:
> > "As far as the NDT "cabal," *I am just going off of what others say
> > happened at the NDT*. So, if you want to engage in the denial, go for
> > it. Your denials will have to go against those who bear *witness to the
> > old guard's attempts to preserve elitism and the "real" national
> > championship*. *Talk to your feloow elitists who bear witness to the
> > crap going on behind closed doors*, the evidence trading, and high
> > fives--don't come crying to me."
> >
> > *If you think  there is not a "good ol' boy network" working within the
> > NDT to virtually guarantee that one of the traditonal four schools do not
> > come out on top, then I cal bullshit*. Again, Marx offers a better
> > explanation of what is going on.
> >
> > But, I think you all love the elitist structure and will continue to
> > work to
> > preserve it. *Let us all stand in awe of those that get the first round
> > bids, determined by a group of predominately white men, at predominately
> > white, elitist and RICH institutions, who base their decisions on a
> > predetermined set of tournaments that are geared to, almost by definition,
> > guarantee that their schools come out on top.* Instead of denying it, *why
> > not just embrace it. David Duke and George Bush do it every day. Embrace
> > your supremacy and enjoy it*.
> >
> > This is why CEDA should either just disappear or make a clean break from
> > NDT.
> >
> Josh
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