[eDebate] Appeal to change 50 per cent win loss requirement at the ndt

Mike Davis davismk13
Mon Apr 21 10:16:13 CDT 2008

The problem with changing the rule is that for most teams it works the
other way. The reason people attend many regional tournaments is to
make sure that their record is over 50%. I know that this is certainly
true with the programs I have worked at in the Southeast where teams
that might not have made it out of districts makes sure they are
several rounds over 50% before the districts tournament by attendin
regional tournaments.


On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Andy Ellis <andy.edebate at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>  I wanted to briefly raise an issue that was discussed but not acted upon in
>  fullerton. I think that the 50 per cent win loss requirement for a
>  second round to the NDT
>  should be lowered or abandoned all together.
>  Towson CL was one ballot above the mark to get out at districts this year.
>  CL fell 1 win below five hundred at wga (i bet if those southerners hadnt
>  cancelled rd 8 they would have been 4-4), they where 4-4 at harvard wake,
>  and texas. They fell 2 further below at Navy and will absolutly not attend
>  any local or regional tournaments if the rule doesnt change. They would not
>  have been able to apply for a second round. However their performance at the
>  NDT 5-3 clearing is clear evidence that viable teams could in fact have been
>  screened out of the ndt by the arbitrary 50 per cent rule.
>  I don't know if the solution is lowering it to 40 per cent or scrapping it
>  all together but that rule effects all sorts of travel decisons and one or
>  two less ballots and a team that barely made it out of a tough
>  district (for towson args at least)
>  would have been excluded.
>  the committee should be able to have more leeway to look at certain
>  teams and decide wheter they belong at the ndt, if the process works
>  now then lowering the requirement simply gives more choice to the
>  committee and gives coaches a little more power to make travel
>  decisions that balance a variety of demands.
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Dr. Michael Davis
Director of Debate/Assistant Professor
James Madison University

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