[eDebate] Technology and debate
Wed Aug 6 23:02:40 CDT 2008
I listed some "rules" in an off the cuff manner & there is almost no
JT's Marxist argument is a strong one: Sometimes teams rely on what they
see as holes in resource rich squads work. A surprise position gives
them a leg up, even if its only a one trick affair. Are things really
more fair if we let the resource rich (who may enjoy better internet &
database access) exploit their advantage even more?
I honestly don't know if anyone has an answer to the "cheating" DA,
other than the honor system.
I know no one wants to cheat to win, but what happens when competitive
pressure really comes to bear?
I do *hope* we never enter the "electronic coach" age, but do we have
any way to enforce these rules other than our own pride?
JP Lacy wrote:
> Basic rule: No outside assistance while you are debating. (Food & other
> sustenance exempted)
> 1. IM: No IM that gives you assistance. Not even a "Go fight win!" Best
> to stay off of chat to avoid appearance of impropriety.
> 2. Research during debates: Do it! If you can beat your opponents
> arguments with a few minutes of online research, more power to you. No
> rule stops you from running to the library, using the card catalog,
> buying a newspaper, reading a book you have in a backpack, or reading an
> article you have saved on your computer. I don't see a good place to
> draw this line other than "no research other than your own during a debate."
> 3. Home server access: Yes, as long as it doesn't violate the "Basic
> rule." If you can find cards in your off-site electronic backfiles, good
> for you. Just don't accept help from others telling you where to look.
> Don't use new files posted to your server after the debate has begun.
> I really don't know how to enforce & verify these basic rules. I just
> think they're basic rules. If everyone complies, no problem. If problems
> arise then we can revisit the "Basic rule" & forbid people from internet
> access during debates. I hope it doesn't come to that.
> Do people actually go outside the "No outside assistance" rule these
> days? If things escalate to the point where every team needs an
> "electronic coach" during debates, then we'll have a whole mess of
> problems to deal with. Best to leave the rule as it stands.
> matthew farmer wrote:
>> I've been thinking about something for a while and I think that the
>> community should probably discuss it. What are our standards/what
>> should they be for the use of the internet and other communication
>> devices in debate. Can you cut cards during a debate, can you talk to
>> people on im even if it's not about debate, should debaters have their
>> wifi on during a debate at all? Should debaters be able to access
>> their deabte servers during a debate, should that be the only thing
>> that they can access? If we come to a consensus on the appropriate
>> behavioral standards, how might we enforce and verify them? Even if
>> it's not possible to fully enforce new rules, should we enact them
>> anyway in an effort to establish and codify a community norm?
>> play nice...
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