[eDebate] Shanara Youtube attack

Chris Stone cstone387
Sun Aug 17 14:37:14 CDT 2008


Broken URL, try here
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Chris Stone <cstone387 at gmail.com> wrote:

> An interesting take on the issue from another group
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d98nXtz8rTo<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU>
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Josh <jbhdb8 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Seriously people,
>>
>> This is showing some really really nasty tendencies and I sincerely hope
>> nobody thinks "getting" Shanara will somehow make you feel better about the
>> attacks on Bill.  Hopefully, this very specific information filled Youtube
>> clip wasnt from someone in our community...that would be really really sad.
>>
>> Let me try this one time for everyone:
>>
>> 1. Debate coaches dont make a ton of money, they dont get much sleep, they
>> never have weekends or holidays like normal people - sometimes that causes
>> some excess.  Mostly because of passion for argument and the activity.  Most
>> debate coaches spend most of their time trying to find ways to even get
>> teams to tournaments given state and school budgets.  Cut these folks a
>> little break...Is destroying them really going to make you feel better
>> somehow?  If so, shouldnt you ask yourself why?  Sure, that was way over the
>> top....but did you leave the theater in Grease because the T-Birds showed
>> their butts?
>>
>> 2. Fame/Attention/Press is inherently conservatizing....Think about the
>> implication of attention....all of the reports are like "they don't wear
>> shoes, they dont look professional, they said 'racism.'
>>
>> We have a nice argumentative space in debate where people can test out new
>> ideas, be themselves, even say things that the majority of Americans would
>> think radical beyond the pale....Do you really want this attention?  People
>> in my office and administration at Michigan forwarded me the clip without
>> any knowledge of edebate or this discussion.
>>
>> Its possible pandora's box is open and we will just have to deal with
>> it....however, could we not fan the flames so high?
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> ps. I also agree with Hester that we can defend debate...and I have in all
>> my conversations with the billion people who saw the clips. Doesnt mean we
>> cant try to stop killing each other.
>>
>>
>>
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