[eDebate] vote for rez 2 a,b, or c

Jacob.Thompson at unlv.edu Jacob.Thompson
Thu Jul 10 15:04:50 CDT 2008

I was happy to see Jim Lyle's post and hope that it will generate some 
discussion of possible resolutions and voting.  However, I must note that 
I disagree with Jim's initial reading of the proposed resolutions (and 
think, based on his last post that he's already backed away from this 

1) Jim already admits that the plan under rez 2c to reduce ethanol subs 
AND to reduce fisheries subsidies would not be a strategic aff choice. The 
neg eliminates any benefit to eliminating fisheries subs by just 
counterplanning out of that portion of the plan. 

2) I don't pretend to be a semanticist, but...  Ermo and Dylan probably 
are... they've effectively addressed these concerns in their 2 previous 

Second and more importantly, in terms of available topic literature, it 
should be obvious that this is one of the most affirmatively biased topic 
areas in recent history.  When the topic paper noted (to paraphrase) 
'advocates for reducing subsidies range from Libertarians to liberals like 
Oxfam International' they weren't kidding.  There are very few 
people/groups outside of the farm lobby and a few agricultural economists 
who believe that subsidies should not be cut. 

We as a community should be careful about granting the aff maximum 
"solvency mechanism" flexibility, especially in a world where most people 
believe that ending most major forms of agricultural support is a fabulous 
idea.  The best case arguments that the neg would have against cutting 
subsidies are solvency based--i.e. no EU/Japanese reciprocation, US 
Tariffs overwhelm solvency, you have to cut subsidies and tariffs 
simultaneously, etc.  These arguments would be gutted by a resolution that 
allowed the aff to reduce almost all forms of USFG agricultural support. 


It seems that restricting the aff to purely domestic subsidy cuts keeps 
this a "domestic" topic. 

A vote for topic 1 multiplies potential affs by (at least) three. 

Allowing affs to address market access barriers makes consult CPs (which a 
lot of people seem to find illegit or at least "bad for debate") a lot 
more likely to be run.  If my aff were reduce market access barriers to 
Brazillian sugar-ethanol, the ultra-hot "consult Brazil CP" (which I have 
actually heard read in a few debates) would rear it's ugly head.

just my 2-cents


Dr. Jacob Thompson, Ph.D.
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