[eDebate] dove "rahmbo" appointment encouraging

JP Lacy lacyjp
Thu Nov 6 22:44:44 CST 2008


Whatever.

Your favorite source, The Israeli Insider, is now reporting that Obama 
may be the secret son of Malcolm X. 
http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-obama-the-secret-son-of?

Old Strega wrote:
> so true josh.  
>
> the rhetorical "change" that was milked to hog heaven is not the 
> change that is going to happen.
>
> it's really just a fraction of change from one face of neoconservative 
> republicanism to a new face of neoconservative republican lite, most 
> notably with vow to expand faith-based initiatives, the hallmark of 
> fractional change.    real change is best justified not by making 
> demonstrative major policy changes or staff appointments outside the 
> corrupt washington beltway but by realizing that the new 
> neoconservative administration is not as bad as mccain's would have been.
>
> i'm on your side with unity about the fraction of change that is going 
> to fall way below the bar of the rhetoric that was flaunted on 
> television.    
>
> "not as bad as mccain".   you couldn't have captured change any 
> better.   if it even happens at all.  
>
> the biggest change i've seen yet is the fact that president elect 
> barack obama is the first candidate in presidential history ordered by 
> the supreme court to respond to a writ a certiori contesting his 
> eligibility.  that would be december the 1st.   that's the due date.   
> marion jones could respond earlier than december 1 with a certificate 
> of live birth, not just an internet fascimile, but i bet you big money 
> mr. jones tries to stall the case and continue to profit from the 
> media blackout.   i bet you big money this is the real reason behind 
> the attempt to build a cabinet quick like cuz mr. jones wants to try 
> to intimidate the supreme court out of considering his eligibility 
> under article 2 through establishing a fait d'accompli.    we'll see 
> on december 1st, when mr. jones becomes the first president to appear 
> in front of the supreme court before his inauguration on allegations 
> of cheating the people.
>
> the constitutional crisis is not happening cuz CNN told me so.
>
> "rahmbo" is encouraging and the chuck hagel possibility is 
> titillating.   mccain's DOD appointment would have been a little worse 
> than republican diebold master chuck hagel and therefore we're gonna 
> get josh's fraction of change across the board at every cabinet position.
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> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:19:50 -0500
> From: jbhdb8 at gmail.com
> To: oldstrega at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [eDebate] dove "rahmbo" appointment encouraging
> CC: edebate at ndtceda.com
>
> You are so right.....It would be so much better if we just had McCain 
> so we were upfront about being in every war instead of just some of 
> them.....you do want to be a General dont you :)
>  
> Josh
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Old Strega <oldstrega at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:oldstrega at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     the change is fast and furious.   moveon.org <http://moveon.org/>,
>     dailykos.com <http://dailykos.com/> and the anti-war movement are
>     now in bed with the neo-conservative war hawks.   i hope chuck
>     hagel gets DOD.   the way diebold landslided mccain.   i see no
>     reason why not.    i also hope hagel's not the only republican to
>     speed up all the change.   colin powell, condoleeza could both get
>     reappointed to the change doctrine.    probably not powell,
>     because he was too republican for an obama cabinet but maybe
>     condoleeza.    
>
>     remember when obama said to an AIPAC conference: "jerusalem should
>     be divided".   oops, that was just a bush-ism or lil' slip of the
>     tongue.    don't worry, obama is actually intelligent and
>     rhetorically proficient.   after being educated on the issue, his
>     faux pas was fixex.    the marion jones of politics just switched
>     his position the next day like a used car saleswhore and that was
>     that.  no problem.
>
>     http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9939.shtml
>
>     During the United States election campaign, racists and pro-Israel
>     hardliners tried to make an issue out of President-elect Barack
>     Obama's middle name, Hussein. Such people might take comfort in
>     another middle name, that of Obama's pick for White House Chief of
>     Staff: Rahm Israel Emanuel.
>
>     Emanuel is Obama's first high-level appointment and it's one
>     likely to disappointment those who hoped the president-elect would
>     break with the George W. Bush Administration's pro-Israel
>     policies. White House Chief of Staff is often considered the most
>     powerful office in the executive branch, next to the president.
>     Obama has offered Emanuel the position according to Democratic
>     party sources cited by media including Reuters and The New York
>     Times. While Emanuel is expected to accept the post, that had not
>     been confirmed by Wednesday evening the day after the election.
>
>     Rahm Emanuel was born in Chicago, Illinois in 1959, the son of
>     Benjamin Emanuel, a pediatrician who helped smuggle weapons to the
>     Irgun, the Zionist militia of former Israeli prime minister
>     Menachem Begin, in the 1940s. The Irgun carried out numerous
>     terrorist attacks on Palestinian civilians including the bombing
>     of Jerusalem's King David Hotel in 1946.
>
>     Emanuel continued his father's tradition of active support for
>     Israel; during the 1991 Gulf War he volunteered to help maintain
>     Israeli army vehicles near the Lebanon border when southern
>     Lebanon was still occupied by Israeli forces.
>
>     As White House political director in the first Clinton
>     administration, Emanuel orchestrated the famous 1993 signing
>     ceremony of the "Declaration of Principles" between Palestinian
>     leader Yasser Arafat and Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin.
>     Emanuel was elected to Congress representing a north Chicago
>     district in 2002 and he is credited with a key role in delivering
>     a Democratic majority in the 2006 mid-term elections. He has been
>     a prominent supporter of neoliberal economic policies on free
>     trade and welfare reform.
>
>     One of the most influential politicians and fundraisers in his
>     party, Emanuel accompanied Obama to a meeting of AIPAC's executive
>     board just after the Illinois senator had addressed the pro-Israel
>     lobby's conference last June.
>
>     In Congress, Emanuel has been a consistent and vocal pro-Israel
>     hardliner, sometimes more so than President Bush. In June 2003,
>     for example, he signed a letter criticizing Bush for being
>     insufficiently supportive of Israel. "We were deeply dismayed to
>     hear your criticism of Israel for fighting acts of terror,"
>     Emanuel, along with 33 other Democrats wrote to Bush. The letter
>     said that Israel's policy of assassinating Palestinian political
>     leaders "was clearly justified as an application of Israel's right
>     to self-defense" ("Pelosi supports Israel's attacks on Hamas
>     group," San Francisco Chronicle, 14 June 2003).
>
>     In July 2006, Emanuel was one of several members who called for
>     the cancellation of a speech to Congress by visiting Iraqi prime
>     minister Nouri al-Maliki because al-Maliki had criticized Israel's
>     bombing of Lebanon. Emanuel called the Lebanese and Palestinian
>     governments "totalitarian entities with militias and terrorists
>     acting as democracies" in a 19 July 2006 speech supporting a House
>     resolution backing Israel's bombing of both countries that caused
>     thousands of civilian victims.
>
>     Emanuel has sometimes posed as a defender of Palestinian lives,
>     though never from the constant Israeli violence that is
>     responsible for the vast majority of deaths and injuries. On 14
>     June 2007 he wrote to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice "on
>     behalf of students in the Gaza Strip whose future is threatened by
>     the ongoing fighting there" which he blamed on "the violence and
>     militancy of their elders." In fact, the fighting between members
>     of Hamas and Fatah, which claimed dozens of lives, was the result
>     of a failed scheme by US-backed militias to violently overthrow
>     the elected Hamas-led national unity government. Emanuel's letter
>     urged Rice "to work with allies in the region, such as Egypt and
>     Jordan, to either find a secure location in Gaza for these
>     students, or to transport them to a neighboring country where they
>     can study and take their exams in peace." Palestinians often view
>     such proposals as a pretext to permanently "transfer" them from
>     their country, as many Israeli leaders have threatened. Emanuel
>     has never said anything in support of millions of Palestinian
>     children whose education has been disrupted by Israeli occupation,
>     closures and blockades.
>
>     Emanuel has also used his position to explicitly push Israel's
>     interests in normalizing relations with Arab states and isolating
>     Hamas. In 2006 he initiated a letter to President Bush opposing
>     United Arab Emirates (UAE)-based Dubai Ports World's attempt to
>     buy the management business of six US seaports. The letter, signed
>     by dozens of other lawmakers, stated that "The UAE has pledged to
>     provide financial support to the Hamas-led government of the
>     Palestinian Authority and openly participates in the Arab League
>     boycott against Israel." It argued that allowing the deal to go
>     through "not only could place the safety and security of US ports
>     at risk, but enhance the ability of the UAE to bolster the Hamas
>     regime and its efforts to promote terrorism and violence against
>     Israel" ("Dems Tie Israel, Ports," Forward, 10 March 2006).
>
>     Ira Forman, executive director of the National Jewish Democratic
>     Council, told Fox News that picking Emanuel is "just another
>     indication that despite the attempts to imply that Obama would
>     somehow appoint the wrong person or listen to the wrong people
>     when it comes to the US-Israel relationship ... that was never true."
>
>     Over the course of the campaign, Obama publicly distanced himself
>     from friends and advisers suspected or accused of having
>     "pro-Palestinian" sympathies. There are no early indications of a
>     more balanced course.
>
>     Co-founder of The Electronic Intifada, Ali Abunimah is author of
>     One Country: A Bold Proposal to End the Israeli- Palestinian
>     Impasse (Metropolitan Books, 2006).
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