[eDebate] Request for Clarification regarding MPJ at Tournaments.
Tue Nov 11 08:50:37 CST 2008
The rule states that each division must employ some type of
preference. The author of the amendment has stated that "strikes
only" in jv/novice conforms with the intent of the rule.
To be clear: if you employ some type of preference in Open (strikes,
mpj, etc), then you must employ some type of preference (strikes, mpj,
etc) in all divisions.
Below is the text of Darren's post on the issue from Nov 25, 2007 when
he wrote to eDebate to encourage a yes vote on the amendment:
"Amendment #7 Tournament Sanctioning
This amendment will make sure that tournaments that use a preference
system in any division will use some sort of preference in all
divisions offered to receive CEDA sanctioning. It makes a
philosophical statement that if we value MPJ than it should extend to
all divisions, and that as an organization we do not value placement
over division. What it does NOT do is require the same preference in
each division. One division might get 6 categories and strikes,
another may get ABC, another may just get strikes. The options are
endless. But it does preserve the ability to allow some protection for
Novice and JV teams, who normally get the judges struck out of the
Open pool. I think as an organization we need to make a statement that
all levels of debate are valuable and receive our acknowledgement."
On Nov 10, 2008, at 9:19 PM, scottelliott at grandecom.net wrote:
> We have been to three tournaments post-amendment regarding
> equalization of MPJ
> for all divisions. My impression is that at each tournament, varsity
> teams have
> recieved all of the preferences/MPJ, with junior varsity and novice
> little or nothing. There are a lot of reasons that I can list as to
> why I think
> this is a bullshit deal for novice and JV teams, but I will save
> that rant for
> another day. Rather, I just want to know whether the amendment to
> CEDA 1) has
> any meaning at all and 2) if it does, what the hell does it mean?
> Because if
> the goal was to make the opportunity to have my teams have a chance
> to be heard
> by the top judges, I think the amendment has become an epic failure.
> Can someone
> from the CEDA Executive Committee, or the CEDA Executive Secretary,
> establish a
> clear explanation to tournament directors what they are required to
> provide for
> a CEDA sanctioned tournamnet?
> Scott Elliott
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