[eDebate] Bad publicity for policy debate

Alfred Snider alfred.snider
Wed Oct 1 14:05:08 CDT 2008


Thanks, I had not seen the other article and will check it out now.

Tuna

NEIL BERCH wrote:
> Tuna raises some important points.  I think it's important to note 
> that there was an article that accompanied the video.  The article is 
> actually pretty good and has a lot of positive stuff, including some 
> excellent analysis from Ede Warner, Gordon Stables, and Will Baker.  
> It's worth reading.
> http://chronicle.com/weekly/v55/i06/06a00103.htm
>
> --Neil Berch
> West Virginia University
>
>
>> From: Alfred Snider <alfred.snider at uvm.edu>
>> To: edebate at ndtceda.com
>> Subject: [eDebate] Bad publicity for policy debate
>> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:23:41 -0400
>>
>> I write today because I fear for the future of policy debate in America.
>> It is already too close to being below critical mass in terms of schools
>> and students. The following story is illustrative of our problems.
>>
>> http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2008/10/college-debate.html
>>
>> The video of a debater standing on the table where the opposing team is
>> sitting and uttering a stream of profanities is not a good film clip for
>> the CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION to feature.
>>
>> The story has some points to make that are hard for us to answer:
>>
>> 1. Incomprehensible speech
>> 2. Rejection of the topic
>> 3. Too present profanity
>> 4. "project" hi jinks
>> 5. Lack of perceived civility
>> and, of course,
>> 6. THE incident.
>>
>> I am sure that we can explain to ourselves and rationalize all of these,
>> but to THE PUBLIC and to our ADMINISTRATIONS it is getting more
>> difficult to explain in a way that they can accept. The Las Vegas
>> article Jake reported on is good, but an exception to the rule in terms
>> of the kinds of publicity we are getting.
>>
>> Rather than a top down imposition of codes and rules I think each squad
>> needs to confront these issues as a team, publicize your efforts to your
>> students so if called on you have an answer as to what you are doing.
>> Then, carry them out. This way changes can happen  that you agree with
>> on your squad and the overall effect on many of the above points will be
>> substantial. But, if we just ignore it and go on preparing for the next
>> tournament we are at peril.
>>
>> I am not trying to engage in a long drawn-out argument about these
>> issues, what I really want is to alert you to the kind of press we are
>> getting and express my concern.
>>
>> Letters to the editor of THE CHRONICLE might be a place to start.
>>
>> Tuna
>>
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Edwin Lawrence Professor of Forensics
University of Vermont
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