[eDebate] Tournament Structure

Kuswa, Kevin kkuswa
Thu Oct 23 09:53:36 CDT 2008

I for one, love these solutions, especially the "decision-time" shortener.
releasing 5 & 6 is a little frightening (everyone stays up all night?), but probably a good idea as well.
Thanks, Dallas.


From: edebate-bounces at ndtceda.com on behalf of Dallas Perkins
Sent: Thu 10/23/2008 10:45 AM
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Subject: [eDebate] Tournament Structure

This is a very interesting discussion.  I agree with both sides.

One solution that everybody would like is to make the rounds go faster
without compromising prep and decision times.

I have two ideas on the subject, and I wonder what the community thinks
about them.

First, we could release the pairings for rounds five and six on Saturday
evening at 10PM, after most people are done with dinner.  This would not
keep people from staying up all night working, but it might at least mean
that they are well-prepared to begin both rounds punctually, with minimal
time between the two.  I wonder if the community sees this as a useful

Second, we could reshape the post-round discussion following elims.  As it
is, the minority judges usually speak first, telling the winners why they
really lost, then the majority judges tell the losers that in fact they
really lost, and everyone sits and listens and argues about it all.  This
can take upwards of forty-five minutes after contentious debates.  I
propose something like this:  after the decision is announced, each judge
delivers a brief summary decision, lasting no more than 2 minutes.  If the
winning team wishes to discuss specifics with any of the judges,
convention will allow them to go first, ask their questions, demand
amplification from the dissenters, whatever.  Once they are satisfied, it
will not be considered discourteous or otherwise inappropriate if one or
both of the winning debaters excuse themselves from further discussion and
get on with prepping for the next round.  Given this new convention, I
think that tournaments would be justified in pushing the schedule
considerably faster on elim day.  This is especially true at the
increasing number of tournaments where the elim bracket is published
Sunday night.

I would be very interested in community input on either of these schemes,
as we might try to implement one or both at Harvard this year.

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