[eDebate] inconsistencies undermine factcheck analysis

Old Strega oldstrega
Fri Oct 24 00:46:23 CDT 2008


take a poll, asshole? 
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> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:45:29 -0400
> From: jbhdb8 at gmail.com
> To: oldstrega at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [eDebate] inconsistencies undermine factcheck analysis
> CC: lacyjp at wfu.edu; edebate at ndtceda.com
> 
> Yes, psycho-sympathy talk
> 
> No, the question was "what do you get out of it" since nobody gives a shit, and you dont give a shit.
> 
> I might not know what 100% are thinking, but in this one instance, I bet if we took a poll it would be 99% this is crazy.
> 
> Josh
> 
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Old Strega  wrote:
> 
> just sounds like psycho sympathy talk, josh.
> 
> i don't give a fuck what people think.   if you think i ever did, you miss the point.
> 
> come on, admit there are more edebate people than you could possibly ever know what they're all thinking?
> 
> what do you confirm among your buds and the elite?   stroube is a "SCREAMING FREAK".
> 
> you act like this is a big struggle for me and i just want to be heard.
> 
> 
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>> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:31:36 -0400
>> From: jbhdb8 at gmail.com
>> To: oldstrega at hotmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [eDebate] inconsistencies undermine factcheck analysis
>> CC: lacyjp at wfu.edu; edebate at ndtceda.com
>>
>> Wrong forum isnt the point at all, as I said POST all you want,
>>
>> I asked you to stop posting while there are still two maybe three people that remember you when you were not this crazed screaming person that has gotten to where people literally groan when you de-cloak.  I dare you to find three people on edebate who think anything you say is credible.....the sad thing, is even if you win you lose because you have taken everyone who might have been an ally and made everyone HATE even seeing your name,
>>
>> How does this help you? Help whatever your cause is? Help Mccain or whoever you support?
>>
>> Josh
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>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Old Strega  wrote:
>> y
>> not exactly true.  lacy keeps attempting to make arguments.
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>> i have stopped "yelling" many a time.  bear tried to argue but was so bad he joined you.   we have another fellow arguing that the berg case was filed in the wrong court.   ARE YOU SAYING THAT TOURNAMENT TALK IS ALL YOU CARE TO HEAR SO THAT'S ALL EVERYBODY WANTS TO HEAR?   josh = everybody so josh = good cop.
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>> basically, you're saying in backwards psychoanalyst speak, "josh, the robot, doesn't have an opinion on whether obama is qualified to be president and that the possibility of obama's fraudulent candidacy doesn't matter".
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>> that i "was a good guy" is crap and stupid and edebate posts don't capture shit and you should know better.
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>> you're an obsessive compulsive edebate topic cop who only wants to hear what pleases your ear.   "wrong forum" has never been effective.
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>>> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:05:50 -0400
>>> From: jbhdb8 at gmail.com
>>> To: oldstrega at hotmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [eDebate] inconsistencies undermine factcheck analysis
>>> CC: lacyjp at wfu.edu; edebate at ndtceda.com
>>>
>>> Please stop this, what possible good are you doing? As I said at the beginning of the whole thing - what in the world is it accomplishing...You are just making everyone get angry for no reason.  Nobody is debating you because its pointless, you dont care what anyone says.
>>>
>>> Best case, you proved your point, we all learned our lesson, you win
>>>
>>> Worst case, you have an obsessive compulsive thing going on where even if nobody responds you keep yelling and yelling and yelling.
>>>
>>> As I said years ago, you were a great guy, what the hell is causing all this?  Seriously, I am sure you hate me too (given your flip out on my several years ago) but I really don't hate you....Just want you to get over whatever is causing you to flip out on people all the time.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Old Strega  wrote:
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>>> the old lacy switch.
>>>
>>> conflict of interest was a bad alley to run up.   so, now we switch the subject to the martin case in hawaii.   at least lacy is now off the desperation ad-hominem tactic.
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>>> i don't care about martin and his theory.  that's why i started with berg and is you is or is you ain't born in kenya?
>>>
>>> the hawaiian lawsuit calling for FISA cagliostro's birth certificate is less appealling to me than berg, the former deputy assistant attorney general of the state of pennsylvania.
>>>
>>> but for the uneducated in barack biography problems, here's martin's theory.   there are 3 lawsuits against cagliostro BLACKED OUT BY THE MEDIA and martin's demand for the VAULT COPY OF OBAMA'S birth certificate is the latest to which lacy refers in his last post after losing the conflict of interest debate:
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>>> http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
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>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:18:10 -0400
>>>> From: lacyjp at wfu.edu
>>>> To: oldstrega at hotmail.com
>>>> CC: edebate at ndtceda.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [eDebate] inconsistencies undermine factcheck analysis
>>>>
>>>> Thats why he's visiting his "sick" grandmother in Hawaii.
>>>>
>>>> Its a cover to go and "fix" his birth certificate problems.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/21/2008 10:55 AM, Old Strega wrote:
>>>>> http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13075.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> the key quote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Rather than asking the hard questions of Obama himself, or even the Obama campaign, or even requesting additional documents from the State of Hawaii in the public interest (they said they "tried" to ask about the long form but failed to get an answer), FactCheck falls back on the rather lame claim that the short form has "enough information to be acceptable to the State Department" and goes so far as to include a footnote linking to the State Department's Passport application requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>> But isn't that bar set a bit too low for the man who wants to be President, especially as you can be a citizen without being "natural born" as article two of the Constitution require, especially when there are multiple reports coming from Kenya -- including several from Obama's own relatives -- that he was actually born in Kenya and came to Hawaii only days after birth, apparently at his mother's insistence that he would be recorded as being born in the USA? Apparently not too low for FactCheck. From their report it would appear that they are not interested or, perhaps more correctly, conflicted in their interests.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the repeated references to State Department requirements for a passport take on a new significance in the light of the recognition, pointed out by an Israel Insider reader, that this "new" certificate of live birth is recorded as being photographed on March 12, 2008, and a contract employee of an Obama advisor -- allegedly a former CIA agent -- was caught breaking into Obama's passport files on March 14, 2008. Indeed, his passport file was looked at twice before--both times BEFORE this "certification of live birth" (not "certificate of birth," as FactCheck sloppily calls it) was photographed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shades of Watergate dirty tricks! Were those passport file break-ins ever investigated or prosecuted? Is it coincidental then that FactCheck inexplicably and repeatedly points out that this certificate of live birth contains all data required by the State Dept. to receive a passport?
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue has never been whether or not Obama can prove U.S. citizenship well enough to get a passport. He gets around just fine, on one passport or another. The issues are where he was born, whether he is a natural born citizen under the Constitution, whether he ever was a citizen of another country, and, if so, whether he ever renounced that foreign citizenship. So why exactly was someone associated with Obama's campaign looking into his passport files? A suspicious mind might speculate that it was to see whether there was already a certificate of live birth (or a birth certificate) on file in the passport office and/or to see which data it contained and whether ALL data matched up with what was on the photographed certificate and to ensure that all data matched up with what Obama wants us to believe about his birth?
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