[eDebate] tuna wrong on free speech
MWBRYANT at aol.com
Sat Oct 25 13:44:52 CDT 2008
Though it pains me to agree with Jack, he is sometimes partially right. I
don't like admitting that. And historical revisionism is one of those things
that still disturbs me even more.
Tuna only told a very small part of the larger story. It's a story that goes
back much further than just his decision to suddenly turn CEDA-L off.
I believe he chose to turn CEDA-L off once he realized the impossibility of
banning a specific individual from a listserve. My current email address was
banned after he felt I was saying things about him that he thought he might
get in trouble for. (I believe Jack was also banned for excessive personal
attacks) The funny thing was that he had told me multiple times that was OK. He
even pointed out that the more I attacked him, the more tolerant it made him
look, since he employed me as an instructor at his institute. But he couldn't
keep me off the list (anybody remember DAVEANT420?) and when the conflict
accelerated to the point of physicality, Tuna - supposedly under the direction
of his administration - suddenly turned CEDA-L off. Kerpen saved the day by
importing the membership list of CEDA-L into eDebate.
I'm not offering these details as a critique of Tuna. I think he is one of
the most impressive people I've ever known. His willingness to change his
early 90's perspectives and animosity against NDT and even policy debate, in
general, have helped to bring about a great "paradigm-shift" in intercollegiate
debate. I truly wish I could've avoided the years of animosity. And, I've even
forgiven Massey for assaulting me. Provocation is a dangerous game. I've
also got to the point where I find Tuna's constant self-PR to be entertaining.
It's amazing what you can grow to miss.
But, eDebate was started to allow an open access for everyone to debate. As
I left debate, I cherished having eDebate so that I could still glimpse at
the wonderful dynamic of the community from afar. And, yes, it's a chaotic
dynamic. One that many have suddenly realized may be not be properly understood
by outside observers. I predict that open access to the "debate dialogue" will
shortly cease to be. The recent price of that openness was clearly greater
than anyone could ever imagine it would turn out to be. So, I can even
understand, though I know I will miss it.
Over the years, life has conspired against me to force me to change a lot
things about myself that I didn't want to change. I guess it's time I move on
beyond this one. And, if revisiting this community just brings me back to
fighting with Jack and Tuna, I guess I need to move on! I will, however, hope
that eDebate stays afloat a little while longer. I plan on sending another
contribution to Kerpen as thanks for the portal to the past.
Back to realclearpolitics.com, my portal to the present,
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