[eDebate] Hunger just is

Josh jbhdb8
Wed Apr 15 13:51:01 CDT 2009


I agree 100% with this...and also with any part of what Jackie wrote that
supports this feeling...there should be no presumed superiority OR feeling
that poverty is without intelligence or dignity.

Josh

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:49 PM, john foy <glueboy1 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think that part of Jackie's point is that these offers to help farmers
> involve an implicit claim about the poverty of the cultures and lifeways of
> the people helped as well as a literal judgement about their poverty.
> Definitions of poverty do change over time and in relation to production.
> This whole discussion reminds me of a documentary about microlending I
> watched last summer.  In it there was an interview with a UN official who
> said "Everyone has the right to human dignity under the UN Charter and
> dignity means not being poor."  I felt really fucked up by that comment.
> The dignity of the human person isn't something guaranteed by any charter
> and poor people don't lack it.  No material circumstance can rob a person of
> their indwelling dignity except the belief that someone can grant or revoke
> it, or that their material circumstances signal something about their
> dignity.  I'm kind of tired so this may seem disjointed, but yes, that is a
> reason not to diagnose and name other people as impoverished and victimised.
> John
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