[eDebate] Does anyone realize....

Paul Johnson paulj567
Sun Jul 5 20:14:02 CDT 2009


I would love for more debaters to refuse to take for granted the claims in many of the seminal impact cards, in both policy and critical debates.







--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Dylan Keenan <dylan.keenan at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dylan Keenan <dylan.keenan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [eDebate] Does anyone realize....
> To: "Paul Johnson" <paulj567 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: edebate at ndtceda.com
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 4:54 PM
> Agreed. Khalilzad IS outdated and
> ridiculous.
> 
> But while we're on this train let's get rid of 
> 
> a) The M?sz?ros capitalism cards from 1995.
> b) The McWhorter managerialism cards from 1992.
> c) The Foucault biopower impact card form History of
> Sexuality (mid 70s I think) and all derivatives thereof.
> 
> 
> Cause you know, not only has war not happened but the
> growth of global capitalism, trade, and technology have
> improved everything else as well.
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> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Paul Johnson <paulj567 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> that the primary piece of impact evidence we read for the
> most popular advantage is FIFTEEN YEARS OLD?
> 
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> That Khalilzhad card is really, really old. It is older
> than some people you are instructing at camp this summer.
> 
> 
> 
> Moreover, many of the fundamental scenarios it describes
> have happened. The US has "exercised leadership"
> in the Middle East. Many security analysts now believe
> thinking in terms of "hostile global rivals" is an
> outmoded sentiment that needs updating for an increasingly
> globalized and fragmented world.
> 
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> In 1994, it was still unclear whether or not the collapse
> of Communism would take in Russia. We were only fifteen
> years out from the LAST uprising in Iran. We had just fought
> a very successful war in the Middle East, instead of a
> couple iffy ones. NATO was still considered the most
> important of all international institutions.
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> Its easy to find evidence that the United States needs to
> maintain a position of leadership in the world at large.
> Moreover, this evidence is plentiful even from dates AFTER
> 1994. As a community we pride ourself on rigorously testing
> arguments, examining the quality of their argumentation, and
> refining them as we go along. Perhaps we can begin to read a
> different piece of evidence in the 1AC--one that, you know,
> assumes the world we live in, and not one that we need to
> fire our DeLorean up to 88 mph to see?
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> Old Man Rant Over.
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