[eDebate] birth certificate goes mainstream: lou dobbs

Josh jbhdb8
Thu Jul 30 14:34:30 CDT 2009

Except that it was presented, and re-presented, and re-re-presented,

Or is your argument that Hawaii knew it was coming when they made it and the
story was in the paper,


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Old Strega <oldstrega at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  actually dobbs holds strong for the "president" to present his COLB to a
> third party other than anneburg foundation for whom he used to work.
>  looks like congress is moving to have all future presidents present a long
> form birth certificate with doctor and nurse signatures since the
> possibility of a constitutional crisis still haunts the presidency.   the
> obama faithful are engrossed in a hysterical reaction to suppress free
> speech.
> http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105345
> Posted: July 28, 2009
> 9:20 pm Eastern
> ? 2009 WorldNetDaily
> Lou Dobbs
> After being attacked by groups ranging from the Southern Poverty Law Center
> to Media Matters for relentlessly calling on Barack Obama to prove his
> eligibility for the office of the presidency, CNN's Lou Dobbs wasn't backing
> off on either his syndicated radio or his television program today.
> Once again, he renewed his calls for Obama to produce his long-form birth
> certificate that would settle doubts about where he was born and offered
> that the president's actions could actually be "illegal."
> Dobbs took on the special-interest groups demanding that CNN shut him up.
> "The left is trying to silence their opponents and their competitors in the
> public marketplace of ideas," he said on his radio show. "One issue in which
> the ethnocentric issue groups have been trying to silence me is on the issue
> of illegal immigration. Many of those, if you will, have migrated to me here
> recently because I, even though I said I believe the president is a citizen
> of the United States, I don't understand why he shouldn't produce a birth
> certificate. My God, you're talking about the third rail of American
> journalism, baby! That's it. I'm not going to back off."
> *Join in WND's Fedex campaign and tell Obama you don't buy his state-run
> media coverup! <http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105225>*
> As WND is reporting<http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105270>,
> Dobbs has come under fire for having the audacity to question on air why
> Obama hasn't released his long-form birth certificate.
>  Now members of the Daily Kos <http://www.dailykos.com/> website, which
> bills itself as "the largest progressive community blog in the United
> States," have turned up the heat even more by listing CNN executives'
> email addresses <http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105345#> in
> a campaign to get Dobbs fired from the network<http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105345#>
> .
> "Lou Dobbs is an idiot and he should be booted off CNN for his obsession
> with President Obama's birth certificate," writes Daily Kos diarist
> kerouacforobama <http://kerouacforobama.dailykos.com/>. "We need to get
> these far-right haters off the air."
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:54:36 -0500
> Subject: Re: [eDebate] birth certificate goes mainstream: lou dobbs
> From: jbhdb8 at gmail.com
> To: oldstrega at hotmail.com
> CC: edebate at ndtceda.com; jvreedmore at hotmail.com
>   I have been trying to stay out of this...but the person who replaced Lou
> "hates immigrants" Dobbs last week spent thirty minutes de-bunking the Obama
> birth certificate issue before Dobbs came back and ignored it.
> Josh
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Old Strega <oldstrega at hotmail.com>wrote:
> despite the freakout over his skepticism about obama's birth certificate,
> lou dobbs will remain @ CNN.  i agree with what lou is saying on TV ---
> obama is an illegal and therefore not qualified to be president according to
> the constitution.   thank god soldiers are contesting the
> "commander-in-chief's" orders to go to afghanistan.   BORN IN KENYA!!!
> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-cnnobama25-2009jul25%2C0%2C3939176.story<http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-cnnobama25-2009jul25,0,3939176.story>
>  By Matea Gold
> July 25, 2009
> Reporting from New York -- CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein told staffers of
> "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on Thursday that the controversy regarding the
> legitimacy of President Obama's birth certificate -- a topic Dobbs has
> avidly pursued on the air -- is a "dead" story.
> But in an interview, the cable news chief left open the possibility that
> Dobbs may continue to raise questions about why the president has not
> produced a long-form birth certificate. The absence of such a record has
> spawned rumors that Obama was not born in the United States, despite plenty
> of evidence to the contrary.
> "He's got more than 30 years as a television journalist, and I trust him,
> as I trust all our reporters and anchors, to exercise their judgment as
> various stories evolve," Klein said of Dobbs, whose daily CNN program is a
> mix of news and opinion.
>    - [image: CNN President Jon Klein declares Obama birther story 'dead']<http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-st-cnn-joe-klein-obama24july2009,0,5131502.storylink>
>    *STORY: * CNN President Jon Klein declares Obama birther story 'dead'<http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-st-cnn-joe-klein-obama24july2009,0,5131502.storylink>
>    - [image: Lou Dobbs and the canard over President Obama's birth]<http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-onthemedia-dobbs-link,0,874276.storylink>
>    *STORY: * Lou Dobbs and the canard over President Obama's birth<http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-onthemedia-dobbs-link,0,874276.storylink>
>   "Certainly if there are future news pegs, then we have to take that
> story as it comes," he added.
> That appeared to be a step back from the stance Klein took in his e-mail
> Thursday, in which he wrote that CNN researchers had determined that
> Hawaiian officials discarded paper documents in 2001. Because of that,
> Obama's long-form birth certificate no longer exists and a shorter
> certificate of live birth that has been made public is the official record,
> they reported.
> "It seems to definitively answer the question," Klein wrote in the e-mail, first
> reported by the website TVNewser<http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/jon_klein_on_birthers_it_seems_this_story_is_dead_122546.asp>.
> "Since the show's mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he
> should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite. And then it seems
> this story is dead -- because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't
> really have a legitimate beef."
> On Friday, Klein said he was not ordering the staff to drop the story.
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