[eDebate] CEDA Nats Geography

Andy Ellis andy.edebate
Sat May 9 12:43:18 CDT 2009


free ceda nats would rock...thats likely a 6 figure fundraising
project...real tough for someone with two other jobs to do

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM, matt stannard <stannardmatt at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  As I recall, some people complained back in '98 that the Rochester CEDA
> Nats was too far away from them.  Conversely, it was very accessible to
> schools close to it (duh).  ISU this year was extremely accessible to some
> programs, while others found it difficult to go to both CEDA and NDT in a
> time of tightening budgets and a few others sneered "Idaho?" in an
> indefensible way.
>
> Rochester is a beautiful city and anyone who got to visit it that year got
> to see its classic, gothic, old-industry history and form, and got to
> experience an epic snowstorm.  Pocatello is located on the side of a
> mountain, overlooking unbelievable peaks and valleys; those who came to this
> year's CEDA also got to experience an epic snowstorm.
>
> The decision to host at Rochester wasn't solely made by Tuna, who presided
> as CEDA President, and it was not Chief who unilaterally decided to host at
> ISU.  Myriad considerations came into play and a bunch of people debated and
> voted.  Location came into play in discussions preceding both the Rochester
> and ISU decisions.  The deliberative process took its course.
>
> Speaking a little closer to home both spatially and temporally, CEDA Nats
> at ISU was analogous to CEDA Nats at SIU, in 99.  In both cases,
> participants had to fly into a major airport and then drive to another state
> to get to the tournament.  The drive from St. Louis to Carbondale is longer
> (and, I dare say, less aesthetically impressive) than the drive from Salt
> Lake to Pocatello.  The decision to host at SIU was somewhat "inconvenient"
> from a strictly logistical point of view: hotel space was sparse and people
> don't like to drive 2+ hours after landing at an airport.  But SIU at that
> time was considered a vital cornerstone of the community.  Many of us
> consider ISU to be a foundational post-merger debate school who routinely
> supports tournaments all over the country and whose coaching faculty are
> extremely involved in organizational service and leadership.
>
> Should we be concerned that tournament travel is too expensive?
> Certainly.  It is.  But air and other travel-related expenses are relative
> to where you are, and unless we want to be strictly utilitarian in deciding
> where to host tournaments (and if that's what some of us want, let's have a
> transparent discussion about that), then some years some regions get a break
> and other years other regions do.  If you want to be utilitarian, then don't
> be surprised when the regions furthest away from the tournament in any given
> year don't attend.  And not attending one year is not the end of the world,
> particularly if you have good substitutes like a nearby novice/JV nats, ADA
> championship, whatever.
>
> The most positive use of our energy would be finding a way to host a FREE
> CEDA Nats: no entry fees, free food, free trophies, possibly even free
> sleeping space, possibilities that have been raised publicly in the past.
> That would be huge.  It would be a goal we could all share in no matter
> where we had to fly or drive in from.  And we could do it if we put our
> minds to it.
>
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