[eDebate] Northern Iowa questions

Kelly Young kel1773
Sat Sep 19 15:32:47 CDT 2009

"I heard that prefs were not really being used (just 2 strikes) because 

those running the tournament do not know how to use them.

I heard that there are NO prefs at all in JV & novice which means the 

tournament may not be CEDA sanctioned.

Any truth to these ugly rumors?

This is absolute bush-league slander and is really unprofessional and uncalled for, particular from someone that isn't at the tournament. Perhaps you should back-channel the directors of the tournament before you publicly sander a good program that runs a nice tournament. I was in the room exactly at the moment that your source asked if pref system was being used and I specifically heard him then misrepresent the answer and justification.

At a tournament with 20ish teams there just aren't enough judges to give any real flexibility to have meaningful prefs. If you have an A, B, Strike system, you have to require so many As that you end up with just about everyone in the pool as an A. And in late rounds, the pool is so constrained by that point, you will get many scenarios that are mutual but not preferred (which again, the mutual is meaningless because you have to rank about 85% of the pool an A). So, its either the facade of pref or it's the reality, you get a couple of strikes and accept it.

The people running the tournament have ran several of highly competitive high school tournaments. This is not a lack of competence or ability. I still can't believe you dared to suggest such a thing. 

More importantly, there ARE JV and novice strikes. It was the first strike sheet I picked up at registration. Unsure where this ugly--ugly because it's a lie--rumor came from. There is only one strike, but the language of the constitution is: "If a preference system is used, a version of a preference system must be used in all divisions (Open, JV, Novice, etc.) offered." A VERSION OF A PREFERENCE SYSTEM IS BEING USED.

Get your facts straight.


Kelly M. Young, Ph.D.

Director of Forensics/

Assistant Professor

Communication Department

Wayne State University

585 Manoogian Hall

Detroit, MI 48201

(313) 577-2953

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