[eDebate] CSIS Bloggers and Coaches' Poll

Seth Gannon sethegannon
Mon Sep 28 12:42:38 CDT 2009

Brief (I hope, and you more so) thoughts on the poll's anonymity:

After consulting, err--sorry, bad CSIS habit--after talking to some
but certainly not all of the many people in the debate community whose
advice I take as gospel, I decided to leave the poll confidential, at
least for year one. The main concern was deterring smart,
well-intentioned, otherwise-willing voters who would be able to defend
their picks but wouldn?t have the requisite edebate time between GSU
and Kentucky to do so.

No points are awarded to any team the voter cannot judge. Warden?s
enthusiasm for Northwestern, to take the going example, has no impact
on the ratings and accounts for none of that school?s three first
place votes.

Now, of course, the poll?s opacity leaves it to the word of the
Gannons that I don?t slide 15 first place votes over to the Demon
Deacons every month (not that this is Antonucci?s concern).  On that
count, so be it. The word of the Gannons can be much vouched for,
except perhaps by one Cromwell apologist who got taken to the cleaners
with a rigged deck of cards in Galway in 1649, but those were tough

I?d like to keep the poll consistent with my announcement for this
year, but I could be fairly easily convinced to make it transparent
next year, if that?s the community?s general sentiment. While the poll
is informal and while everyone can make up their own minds re: its
legitimacy, I?d certainly like it to be as legitimate and thus
enjoyable as possible.

Thanks again to everyone who voted or said they plan to next time.
Good luck to all at their next tournament.

Your friend,

A.T. Tappman

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Michael Antonucci
<antonucci23 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm personally not that worried about Warden getting bounced from the
> casino.? (Who is the mean unibrow in this metaphor?)
> The route from his publicly available, institutionally constrained blog to
> direct victories for any one team seems circuitous at best.? I also don't
> see how he's any more or less invested in the community as a result of his
> blog.? He's surely very supportive of Northwestern, but that's true
> regardless of his public writings.
> That said, Hester may have a very valid concern.? If the coaches' poll is
> going to be a thing, maybe it could be transparent?? Any form of competitive
> ranking in this community is potentially contentious, and public
> accountability seems the easiest fix.? If you want a vote, you should be
> able to defend it.
> I have no problem with the game, but it's probably best that everyone keep
> their hands above the table to avoid accusations of rigging.
> Of course, it's informal and Seth's thing, so he can do it however he
> chooses.? Just an idea to boost its legitimacy and avoid backlash.
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